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23 year old ss - at my wits end and need some advice/support

Pixiegardener's picture

Don't know where to start, but my 23 year old stepson graduated from college last summer, and my dh got him a job at the company where he works for the summer. The plan was that ss would save some money, then go back to grad school in the fall. He procrastinated some things and was not admitted to grad school in the fall and now he's gonna keep working until...next year. We agreed to let him stay here, and I drafted an agreement with him that has only 2 non-negotiable items - keep his space clean, organized and neat, and buy his own laundry detergent. That's it! No rent, no other real chores or responsibilities. He agreed that it was very reasonable. And, as I figured, he has turned his space into what looks like a nightmare of a dorm room with ...well it's a pig sty. He has cleaned it up several times, but I DO NOT WANT this to be MY responsibility to "remind" him, for goodness sake. For the record, we have a very small house - almost a 'tiny house' and we moved here on purpose because we wanted the simplicity. So it's hard enough sharing space - no privacy at all. It is stressing me out, and I'm usually pretty mellow. When I've tried to talk to hubby about it, he said he didn't want a "drama", which was insulting, as all I am doing is asking someone to keep an agreement. There is no yelling, no name calling, no pouting or anything of the sort from me around this, much less 'drama'. The 'drama' is coming from ss not keeping up his end of the deal.

I just sent ss a facebook link to the Japanese book on "The Life Changing Magic of Tidying Up" - (he was a Japanese minor in college) - and said, "being organized and neat is life affirming and gives freedom, besides we have an agreement. If you choose not to abide by it, then you need to find new living quarters. Love you, but that is the deal. We will discuss, but those are the terms. No kidding."

I don't want to guilt trip or shame him, just point out that the agreement is something that is just not working for him, and therefore he needs to make some choices. My husband won't be happy I suspect, but I'm really done. Hubby and the bm I think keep 'rescuing' ss and unconsciously compete to be the 'good' parent, but I don't care at this point. I don't get my self-worth from whether or not ss likes me. Which, actually, he does. i.e. he had his first big fight with his first girlfriend, and came to me to process it for HOURS. This is not unusual, he does seek my advice and support.

I just don't know what else to do, and looking for ideas or support from people who "get it" Help!

Pixiegardener's picture

luvmypuppy - That's an angle I hadn't thought of - hire someone to clean and make him pony up the $$. That would get his attention.

We don't 'argue' about it, he always says I'm being reasonable, but he would rather be on his phone watching some videos or whatever, than clean up. Who wouldn't? When ss was 17, his mom got so frustrated that she said she was kicking him out, and of course dh and I rushed over there to rescue him, thinking she was being unreasonable. Of course she changed her mind and tried to 'reason' with him, because she really didn't want him living with us. Now I am feeling her pain! LOL. I believe he thinks the same thing will happen here (without the name calling and screaming) - that there will be no consequence. Wrong.

Knottygirl's picture

Yes I feel your pain. My Sd room is an absolute pig sty. Bs6 keeps his room tidier than she does. We used to have a cleaner. All she had to do was make sure her things were put away so the cleaner could vacuum and dust her room. She wouldn't even do that, it was too hard.

Pixiegardener's picture

Last time, I took a photo with my phone, texted it to him with the caption "Nope" He came home and cleaned up. Ha. Had a short talk with DH, and he acknowledged that it was a mess, and he agreed that if ss breaks his agreement with us, he has to go. So that was a relief!!!

long time sufferer's picture

Grad school? If he has a Bachelors he can work and pay his own rent somewhere else. Lots of people work and go to school too. Sounds like he's not serious about grad school anyway thus the delay. Right now he's just playing, partying and having fun because he doesn't have to pay any bills or clean up. Why would he leave? I predict you will end up having to force him out of the house but not before he exhausts all appeals to your DH.

gigimom's picture

My SS's room is also a pig sty but he pays rent. He's 22 and pays $120 a month for his room. If I see his room door open, I close it. Sometimes his mess regurgitates in to the hallway. I push it back in and close the door. He buys his own detergent and food when he eats out. I don't cook for him but if there's anything left he's welcome to it. I know I would be frustrated with him daily if I expected him to keep his room neat so I'd rather not see it.

gigimom's picture

My SS's room is also a pig sty but he pays rent. He's 22 and pays $120 a month for his room. If I see his room door open, I close it. Sometimes his mess regurgitates in to the hallway. I push it back in and close the door. He buys his own detergent and food when he eats out. I don't cook for him but if there's anything left he's welcome to it. I know I would be frustrated with him daily if I expected him to keep his room neat so I'd rather not see it.