Hey DH? Why don't you go efff yourself?
I am about ready to toss the freaking towel in here.
Yesterday, I get a text from DH stating that we only have $10 in our account to last until Thursday night. We have all three kids this week and $10 is not going to cut it.
Last night DH goes through SS(6) backpack and finds his little school fund raiser packet that's due today. What does he do? He notices that SS is one whole sale away from getting bumped up to the next prize level and instantly decides that he is going to help poor little SS get the better prize. I'm standing there watching him in complete disbelief. I finally told him that we can't afford it. His comment, he only needs $5 or $10 spent on him to get bumped up to the next level.
Are you effing kidding me here? We have $10 dollars. $10 freaking dollars left in our account and DH is going to buy something that we don't need with it so that SS can get a better prize that he probably won't even play with. And he can store it in his room with the, atleast $1000 dollars worth of other toys that he doesn't play with? On what effing planet does that even make since. We have to worry about feeding the kids until Friday and he wants to spend the last of our money so SS can get a better effing toy? I just don't get it.
So of course once I become the voice of reason and tell him we can't afford it, it becomes my fault. Apparently because I bought a bag of potting soil three weeks ago and I spent $20 dollars on some Christmas decorations that I made, it's my fault that he can't spoil his son. My favorite part of last night is when he proceeded to tell me this in front of my BD(9) while she was eating dinner.
Are you freaking kidding me here. So...because DH can't afford to spoil his child with a toy the kid will probably never play with and will most likely end up at BMs anyways and he won't be SS's night and shinning armor and get all of the hugs and kisses it becomes my fault. And not only is it my fault. It some how has become appropriate to badmouth me in front of my BD because we all know in this house, thanks to DH, that it's GameOn's fault. How dare she buy a bag of potting soil so she can repot the plants that look like crap because they need new soil and will most likely die if they don't get it. I mean how can I be so selfish and spend $7 dollars on something for the house when that money can go to DH's kids for sh!t that they don't need and won't even play with.
I am so fed up with this BS. DH cannot go a week without badmouthing me to his kids and mine and I'm getting effing sick of it. I am sick of his priorities always being about his kids and it's not in a good way. If you are spending the last of our money on your son for a freaking toy when we have other things such as feeding the kids that take priority over that, there's a problem. A big big effing problem. It's not even being responsible. So what? We'll just spend the money on SS because lord knows he needs it and then we'll just put the food on the credit card because 8k worth of debt on the damn thing just isn't enough. I wonder how it got up to 8K. According to DH it was to keep us afloat. Really? Because the logic of this situation just shows me that DH is being financially irresponsible and a complete disney dad. And I know for a fact that the 8k worth of debt had nothing to do with, "keeping us alfoat". I saw the statement and I know that DH put everything on the credit card so he wouldn't spend the money in our account on crap like gas amongst many other things. Which to me is just crazy because that's why I effing work. To put money into an account so I can buy sh!t like gas. Not put it on the credit card and then point our how we have $800 dollars in our account because it's not being spent the way it's supposed to. And then not only do we now owe 8k on the damn thing but we have to pay interest on top of that. This is like a math problem gone bad.
If we ever get this thing paid off I am taking that stupid credit card and cutting it up into tiny little pieces. DH just took out a 401k loan the year before last to pay of the 6k of debt that was on it. Then he turns around and racks that debt right up again and then tells me that he needed to spend that money on the credit card for the family. I wasn't born yesterday. Trying to spoon feed me BS works better if I'm blind and have no clue how the BS got onto the spoon in the first place. And not not only are we paying off the 401k loan but we have another 8k on the credit card. And now he's talking about cashing out his IRA to pay off the debt. WTF is all I have to say to that. So since the 401k loan worked so well we'll just cash out his IRA so he can rack the debt back up again?
I feel like I'm living in crazy town. On what freaking planet does any of this make since? How is this even close to responsible parenting. And SS didn't even ask to be bumped up to the next level. He didn't even care. This was all DH being a guilty daddy yet again. He'll deny it up and down but it's the only thing that makes since.
Then DH tells me today that he would spend the last of the money on me so SS isn't special. Are you serious? Weren't you the one last night who was telling me that the reason why you couldn't afford to buy sh!t that we don't need for SS is because I spent money on soil and Christmas decorations? That is the complete opposite of the text that I got today.
I am really upset about this whole situation. I am tired of always being the bad guy. The reason why there are rules and boundaries. I am tired of being made into a monster because DH always sides with his kids in front of them and me. I am tired of him badmouthing me in front of my own child. That's my child not his. If he wants to turn me into a freaking villan to his kids, effing fine but I will be damned if I will sit by and watch him try his BS with mine.
And here's an idea DH. Maybe, just maybe if you didn't make financially irresponsible decisions we wouldn't struggle as much. I can't even get him to sit down with me and make a budget because he feels like he is already cutting corners enough. Are you freaking kidding me? IF WE ONLY HAVE $10 DOLLARS LEFT IN OUR ACCOUNT UNTIL THURSDAY AT MIDNIGHT AND WE HAVE THREE CHILDREN TO FEED UNTIL THEN, THERE'S A PROBLEM. AND MAYBE JUST MAYBE INSTEAD OF WINGING THE BUDGET EVERY WEEK WE SHOULD FIGURE SOMETHING OUT THAT'S A LITTLE MORE PERMINENT SUCH AS A FIXED WEEKLY BUDGET FOT SH!T BECAUSE THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME IT HAS HAPPENED AND IT SURE AS HELL WON"T BE THE LAST IF WE DON'T FIND A BETTER SOLUTION.
And spending the last of our money so SS can get a toy is being financially responsible and cutting corners? On what planet? Someone please tell me because the last time I checked I could have sworn that I lived on Earth.
Apparently I missed the part of my life where I boarded the cazy train and went to guilty disney dad land for extended stay in hell. How the heck did that happen and why wasn't I watching where I was going? I think somebody slipped me a roofie and threw my a$$ on that train.
Am I the only one who sees nothing but craziness here?
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Let's compare the $7 dollar
Let's compare the $7 dollar bag of potting soil to the $250 dollar carbbing trip that DH took the week before Halloween. I'm pretty sure that wasn't a neccessary expense and we obviously couldn't afford it. Nope. It's that damn bag of $7 dollar soil that I bought and the $20 dollars that I spent on Christmas decorations.
3 accounts!! Yours, His and
3 accounts!!
Yours, His and the Households.
That is the only answer for stupidity like this.
Oh you poor girl! I see your
Oh you poor girl! I see your frustration. My DH is an idiot with money too. I do all the banking and tell him what's left. He would have been the guy spending on SS's when we are broke too.
So now what? I did a budget, he has his own account and I take care of everything. I am no pro, we still struggle! But at least I can say "no, we only have ten bucks left, it needs to stay in the bank"
Yes this is crazy!
(((HUGS))) the only way to
(((HUGS))) the only way to make this work is seperate accounts. He is an idiot with money and he is making things worse for you and your daughter as well.
Hugs
Hugs
What good does seperate
What good does seperate accounts do me when I'll get stuck with half of his credit card debt if we ever split up? I don't even have access to the damn thing and it isn't even in my name and yet I'll still be held responsible for half of the debt.
Echo has a really good
Echo has a really good point...
Then stick the CC in the
Then stick the CC in the household bills section and get it paid off. Oh, and cut the damn thing up!
This happened to me when I
This happened to me when I split from my ExH. I got him a credit card in my name (because he had bad credit of course) that he managed to rack up over $10,000.00 on. Shame on me for not being more in tuned to this, but I guess I never thought that he would cheat and I would end up kicking his ass out and he always paid it every month so no biggie right? Well, sure enough after I kicked his ass out, he immediately stopped paying on the card and his lawyer tried to say that he wasn't going to pay for it because it was in my name. So I contacted the credit card company and they were able to send me 7 years worth of statements which I took to my lawyer, showing that the charges were all my Exes.. (golf trips that I did not go on, down payment for his truck, and all kinds of other crap that Ex couldn't deny.) Thankfully it was enough proof to get him to agree in the divorce agreement that HE ALONE would be responsible for paying the card off. Unfortunately it took him about a year to do it and so I got dinged on my spotless credit, but I refused to pay a dime, because I new if I did, I'd never see that money again and it would just be enabling him. Yes, it sucked having my credit dinged, but within 2 years my credit was back up into the high 600s and now, it's back close to 800.
Maybe you can be proactive and start getting info from the CC company now should things get ugly?
And there's no planning for
And there's no planning for him at all. I know that both of his kids are going to need summer care. Summer care isn't cheap or free. What I would do is plan ahead. I would find what I intended to do with them for the summer and then figure out the cost. I would then take that cost and divide the amount into the remaining months that I have left until I need to pay the money. Then I would work that into the budget that I have already setup to see where corners can be cut so that I can afford summer care for my kids and not just put it all in the credit card because even though I knew I was going to have to find summer care for the kids I didn't plan for it. This, this, this, is where our debt comes from. Not budgeting and planning ahead.
YMCA has a great full time
YMCA has a great full time summer care program for CHEAP!.
Also, you just have to take control. Grab him by the balls and tell him this is how it is going to be from now on, Period.
Apparently you ladies have
Apparently you ladies have woke the beast. My DH is texting me about this post but my phone is dying so I can't respond. My battery is shot but I can't afford to replace it with another one because I don't have any money. Who needs a phone any ways. They're so overrated. Maybe I'll ask for a freaking battery for my phone as my Christmas present. That's what all of us ladies want right? A freaking cell phone battery as a Christmas present.
So here is my response to my DH that I'm sure he'll read but I can't send it on my phone.
Apparently you have this same issue with your ex wife since she was always b!tiching at you about your spending habits. That's two wives out of two total that have b!tiched about the same thing in regards to your behavior. Maybe, just maybe there might be a problem here and it might be with you instead of everyone else. Just saying. You might want to look into that.
Oh and before you come at me with your ideas of where the debt came from, please do some research. This is the reason why we are in the debt that we are in. You can't even remember which debts have been paid, which were covered by your 401k loan, which are still owed, and why the debt's there to being with. Believe me when I tell you that if I know more about our finances then you do and I don't even have access to information like our bank account or your credit card statements then there's a problem there. Just saying. You might want to look into that.
he either agrees to you
he either agrees to you handling the finances or you leave. a hill to die on. he's ruining your future and will have no retirement and will drag you and your kids under with him. if he can't turn over the finances, cut this loser loose. I hope he's reading this.
Oh and I love what he threw
Oh and I love what he threw in my face as part of the 8k worth of debt. My wedding ring. That's right ladies. If you didn't know this already you probably should. Apparently we are expected to pay for our wedding rings now. Yep, you heard it from me first.
What's funny is the wedding ring has already been paid off. That was a part of the 6k that the credit card had on it the last time he paid it off. It's funny that I have to be the one to point this out and what's even funnier is that he's forgotten the conversation that we had in regards to the debt that is now on the credit card. I mean, it must be a pretty hard conversation to remember when it's the one reason why we didn't have another child because DH kept telling me that as soon as we get the credit card paid off we'd be in a position to have another child like he promised me all the while he's out racking up as much debt as he can in a six month span of time for absolutely no reason other than the fact that he liked having money in our bank account. It made him feel safe to have a cushion. Which is exactly where that debt came from. A portion of it was from our wedding but guess what? It would already be paid off by now had no more debt been racked up.
And we haven't even gotten to taxes this year. DH has been claiming more dependents then he should and then turned around and told me to claim 0 and single so I get taxed all to hell to try and make up for the fact that the federal government is going to bend us over and have thier way with us. because of what heis claiming. So not only are we paying for the 401k loan, 8k worth of credit card debt, but uncle sam is going to stick it us as well. And there's nothing wrong with this picture? I've got a phrase that can be used. Not living within your means. DH is claiming more dependents because we could really use that extra $100 a month according to him. My opinion? Sit down. Figure out a budget that fits the take home pay and make do with it. If you can't afford it then you don't need it and credit cards should only be used in emergencies.
omg. yeah, you definitely
omg. yeah, you definitely need to turn this one loose. he's willing to use you as a step stool to lift himself and his kid up. even if you are able to get control of finances, the disrespect will be a constant battle. you have years of turmoil in front of you, and that's even IF he's willing to work with you and accept influence from "a woman". hey mr GameOn, you should be licking the ground this lady walks on cause I don't know of any other self-respecting woman that would have you! she must love you very much to tolerate you destroying her hopes and dreams. this life isn't JUST about you and your kid! ooohhhh...i'm so angry. stand your ground honey. you ARE the best thing that's ever happened to that man. remember that.
I am a pretty tolerant
I am a pretty tolerant person. I was in a bad mood after I got the $10 dollar text yesterday because no matter what we just can't seem to keep ahead. I can get a raise and we're right where we were before I got it. He can get a raise and we are exactly where we were at before. I quit drinking which is saving us money every month and yet we're still at the same point we were at before. DH's excuse is that the cost of living keeps going up. I may have my stupid moments but I'm not a complete idiot. So if what he says is true, every time we find a way to make or save more money the cost of living jumps up exactly that amount? It doesn't make since.
And he pretty much refuses to work with me on a budget. I have been trying for years to get him to sit down and do this with me but he won't. But everytime the budget gets brought up it's my fault that we haven't sat down to do it according to him. I just don't get it. I have never dealt with a more frustrating and confusing person in my life.
This can't keep happening. We can't keep living like this. DH makes a lot more money then I do and maybe that's why he thinks that he can just do whatever and blow off any attempt that I make to try and fi sh!t before it gets completely out of hand. Together we're bringing home close to 5k a month. That's more than enough to work with on a monthly basis.
I just don't understand. All I want to do is fix this but he won't let me and yet it's all my fault. WTF is going on here?
And I have even told him that
And I have even told him that I will go and get a second job and he doesn't want me to do that. I just don't effing get it. How the hell does he expect to pay off all of this debt? And if he can't manage to live within his means does it even matter if he does? History has shown that he creates more debt to pay off current debt and then turns around and racks up more current debt.
The whole point of taking the 401k loan out to pay off the debt was because he would rather pay himself interest then the credit card company. A lot of good that did. Now we are paying 350 a month towards the 401k loan, 150 to 200 for the new credit card debt, and who knows how this whole tax thing is going to work out. If we can't manage to stay afloat now with the current debt that we have how exactly are we giong to pay off the debt for taxes that will be due by April.
The truth of the matter is that we can't keep doing this. We can't keep living this way. I have to listen to him whine about feeling like a failure because he can't provide for his family when he can. What is requires is a real effort to create a budget, the determination to make it work, and doing whatever else, second job, is neccessary to get us to where we need to be. I am more than willing to get a second job. I want to get through this but it's pointless if he can't admit he has an issue with managing finances. We'll end up exactly where we are now or we'll never get out from where we are at.
Then the kicker is when he
Then the kicker is when he looks me in the eye and tells me that I need to be strong for him and support him and in the same breath tries to blame the fact that he can't get his son something he doesn't need with our remaining money because I spent less then $30 dollars over the past 3 weeks in front of my daughter. I can be as supportive as he needs but if you treat me like that you get sh!t from me.
In fact what I think DH needs is to be beat within an inch of his life with a huge club made of common since. Just sayin.
Picture this: 2010-2011. DH
Picture this: 2010-2011. DH is living in Texas with a roommate. (school) I am living in NC handling this household's bills, including a six-figure insurance claim (tornado damage) with a ton coming out of MY pocket.
Once we're back on the same place, I get the bright idea to refinance the mortgage because the rates are at record lows, almost half of what the rate I had. (It's my house) When the paperwork comes in, the asset and debt listing says... DH owes $5k on credit cards. The man was bringing home 7k/month, living with a roommate, and ran up the bills. I ran our household on my own, bringing in 4k/month, and was paying ahead on the mortgage.
That was my ultimatum point. Fix it, or I walk. I put those fucking cards in the freezer. They stayed in there for two years. He says he's debt free. I want to see his credit report, but I trust him. Mostly.