Don’t YOU care?
With the next hurricane set to pass right over Little Idiot, DH has been (moderately) worried about her welfare. He's not at panic level... she is on the opposite side of the state as to where it will make landfall... but none the less, he's concerned. Me? I'm concerned too. I'm concerned for the people and animals of FL anytime they get hit with a storm. I just am not concerned for Little Idiot. Honestly a hurricane could wash her away and it would just be one less stress in my life. I feel awful for feeling that way but again, I do. My heart goes out to everyone else however.
Still I encouraged him to call her or text her and see what's going on. He said he would .... "on Tuesday" when he could "verify the storms track didn't change" (???). He then got all prickly with me (because I'm sure my lack of concern for LI was on display...) I'm sorry but I just can't muster the energy to care anymore.
She lives in FL. FL gets hit with hurricanes every year. That's where the Skunk Ape is. That's where The Fool is. If she bothered to make something of herself, she would not NEED to live there. She could get a better degree, get some credentials and find a better job somewhere else in the US. I don't even know if she wants to leave FL. (DH keeps saying she should leave that state...) and go where? Up here? That's all we need, having to make up for her poor decisions. She's going to need someone to rescue her from her poor choices the rest of her life.
So the answer is no. I don't care. I feel heartless but I'm just tired of the circus.
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Not sure why he’s prickly
Not sure why he’s prickly seeing as he’s the one waiting until Tuesday to get a hold of her. I understand where you are coming from, when Spawn moved away for a brief period it was a huge sense of relief knowing I wouldn’t potentially run into her again. Then she moved back and now it’s just more annoying knowing she’s still lurking around like Meth Mouth.
I don't know. I think he
I don't know. I think he expected me to act worried and fret or something... possibly he wanted ME to be the one to text her (and just relay reassurance to him). I'm sure he will probably text her at some point tomorrow. Not sure of what good it would do at that point. Pretty much too late to evacuate, but maybe not. He's watching TV right now and certainly hasn't spent the day worrying about it either. I'm not texting her that's for sure. It's his relationship to maintain (or not). And honestly I'm not going to panic 2-3x a year because she chooses to live in hurricane-prone FL. It IS peaceful with her down there though (and not up here).
Yep.
These guilty/fearful/detached/emotionally constipated dads would like us to be their proxies, and get frustrated when we don't.
You can't care more than he does.
You took the words right out of my mouth
Parenting by proxy.
Refreshing, candid and honest
Refreshing, candid and honest. Ok to be done @almostgone834. Thanks for sharing this. YEARS of dysfunctional behavior and grabage has led you to this place- that's ok. And I think it shows a lot of merit that you can be honest about it. Half the battle is realizing it's ok not to care. These folks could give 2 sh** about any of us if we were swallowed up by a hurricane. The only thought on their mind is keep funeral expenses LOW so that more money to keep...of course there's an assumption that they are inheriting from us...
It's been a long road that's
It's been a long road that's for sure. And you're right, she certainly wouldn't lose any sleep over me. Heck, she doesn't even care for her own father's welfare. Rarely does she notice anything beyond her mascara wand. She doesn't even text beyond the obligatory 1-2x a year. And that's just to keep the gift line open. She didn't text when the tornados hit our area. Not that she ever reads the news, only celebrity gossip. Probably would have me dumped in a potter's field.
Little Idiot's dad is kinda
Little Idiot's dad is kinda being an idiot. The track isn't likely to change and this one's going to impact the back side of Florida from where it makes landfall ragardless of whether it jogs a little north or south. Their plans should be in place. If they live in a low lying or coastal area they should have a plan for hurricanes. The Skunk Ape has lived to this ripe old age. If her daughter lives by her, they need to be handling this. Like the 2 adult women they are. Not your problem. ETA i got Cat 1 wind and lost power for Francine. If i were in the path of this one, the time for waiting would be over. This one is no joke.
There was no evacuation
There was no evacuation orders in LI's county of residence (it's more inland). Of course Little Idiot is doing the intelligent thing and going to stay with The Skunk Ape (who lives in the only county on the east coast that DOES have mandatory evacuation orders). The Skunk Ape lives in a motel on the beach.... make it make sense. I can't worry about keeping stupid people alive. Maybe DH feels the same.
Lilidiot earns her name. What
Lilidiot earns her name. What the fword.
This latest storm is so scary and her 'i'll just go closer to danger' act makes no sense. She truly is an idiot.
Living up to that nickname
Living up to that nickname for sure. No one means to be harsh, but I know what you mean about how you just dont have it in you to feel sorry for some people anymore. It gets harder all the time. People like LI and the Skunk Ape need to wake up and start F@#$ing thinking, which no one else can do for them ! Thats the bottom line.
Also, I wouldnt feel too bad about fantasizing about LI being one less problem. Hate to say it, but I am been legit guilty of those thoughts myself about SD29
One of my careers was as an
One of my careers was as an independent catastrophe adjuster. I worked with Cat services companies supporting insurance companies following catastrophic events. Insurance companies retain a small internal Nat Cat team and supplement with independent adjusters when they have to support policy holders regarding large volumes of claims from Hurricanes, tornadoes, floods, hail storms, wildfires, earthquakes, ice storms, etc...
I held that license for 20 years and worked several major catastrophes including the 2004 hurricane season. In 15wks Fla was hit six times by named storms that year. Ivan hit twice. I arrived in FL supporting State Farm the day after Hurricane Charley hit. That was the first storm of that season.
After arriving, I evacuated 4 times in compliance with official evacuation orders. The devastation and loss was incredible that season. I estimated nearly 1000 claims in 4.5 mos.
The evolution of idiocy in the 20 years since that Hurricane season is insane. People are idiots and far too many disobey evac orders and decide to ride it out. Instead of a dozen or so deaths that would have occurred historically, the deaths are in the hundreds. People stay, then whine and cry "Hep meeeeeee!" Of course there are individual variables in play but for the most part, my hope is that those who stay have not yet sullied the human gene pool by procreating and that the risk they represent to the quality of the species is is avoided.
I know. Mean Rags.
But.... when you are in the cone, and are told to evacuate. GTF OUT!!!!
Not one of my policy holders from that season failed to evacuate. Their heartbreak returning to a devastated home was heart wrenching tp see. I still receive occasional calls from a few of my policy holders from that season. DW and I visited with one family on one of our Disney trips many years later.
I have family who live and have homes in Fla. Some of them evacuate, a couple of them don't. Interestingly the ones who evacuate are successful, intelligent, and educated. The ones who ride it out are none of those things though they do own their homes. It is probably no surprise that they are direct family with each other. Parents and a kid's family. The intelligent family members have high quality insurance coverage and are dig in, clean it up, and get it done people. The ride it out family elements call and cry for help. They stand on "We are above the 100yr flood plane!" which while better than being at sea level is not a get out flood free card. They also try to play the late add NFIP flood coverage game. They have been caught without coverage by mistiming adding NFIP to their HO policy. NFIP has to be engaged 30 days before coverage binds. So, wait too long, no coverage even if you have purchased a policy.
For DH's sake, I hope LI makes it. For your sake ,if she is playing Hurricane craps, may the outcome be one that is the best for you..... It would be so simple if she just evacuated when ordered.
Her area wasn't even supposed
Her area wasn't even supposed to be that bad. Heck Disney World hasn't even closed yet. So what does she do? Decide to go ride it out with The Skunk Ape (who lives in a mandatory evacuation county on the east coast AND is at sea level on the beach). I don't know of there will be any storm surges on the opposite coast, but if so they are in for it.
What scare me is those who
What scare me is those who would but can't. My parents would be right in the severe danger zone, if they were still w/ us and still in Florida. They lived in an entire area of elderly people. Many of whom can't evacuate for health reasons or lack of transport. I'm petrified for them. We would have gotten my parents out somehow but many of them, if they're still alive, might not have anyone to help and anywhere to go.
We have one friend who's elderly-ish mom had bad damage from the side of the last one, this time it's going to hit her badly. She's out but my friend is hoping this one takes out what's left because he wants her out of there and back here where there's family. She won't agree to move unless the insurance company says her place is a total wash.
My ex MIL
Lives in Ft Myers and she's 90. Her husband passed a couple years ago but then she's always been the strong-willed independent type. She wouldn't let me or most of her family know where she was anyway because she is religiously shunning them as well.
My elderly policy holders were the most heartbreakng.
The most heartbreaking example was an elderly widow whose home was smack in the middle of the zone where Charley (Cat 4) hit in Punta Gorda FL. She had a beautiful mid century modern home that she and her DH had purchased brand new. It has been 20 years and the amazing finish work of her home sticks with me to this day.
Sadly her agent had facilitated a tragedy for her. She was fixed income and rather than find her reasonable evolving coverage over the decades she had been insured through that agency they had not updated coverage. She had $250K in damage but was insured for only $75K. She had evacuated, thank goodness, but returned to a home she could not return to livability. I had to cut her a check for $75K. I was able to waive her deductible since her loss was far in excess of the deductible. Deductible is designed to prevent a policy holder from profiting from a property loss and ensuring that the owner shares in the loss which she did to the excessive degree of $175K. It was so sad.
I had other elderly policy holders though their position was far more effectively insured. I did have one couple who got ripped off by contractors that sadly I had to deny reimbursement for those unethical contractors. I did work with LEOs on their behalf to try to get some of their money back. The saddest part of that couples situation was they had paid their contractors $30K in "holiday bonuses" that they tried to get insurance reimbursement for. Part of an insurance settlement is Overhead & Profit (O&P) for contractors. That does not include discretionary bonuses.
I would be on the road for FL right now if I was still licensed but I have to say months of 15hr days 7 days a week of slinging ladders, climbing roofs, slogging through mud and debris, working with heartbroken homeowners, and arguments over coverage that is clearly stated in the insurance policy, would not be worth the $100K+ I would earn adjusting the loses that Helene and Milton will cause.
I can't imagine having to
I can't imagine having to face those who lost everything they'd worked their whole lives for and cannot start over in the elderly years. And yes, those are the most stubborn ones. Knowing what we're going to see in the coming days is heartbreaking.
Gads. My Dad is smack dab in
Gads. My Dad is smack dab in the center of the worst and I'm freaking out!
Hoping he got out @Aniki -
Hoping he gets out @Aniki - thinking of you.
I'm so sorry. I hope he stays
I'm so sorry. I hope he stays safe!
Hope he is OK! xx
Hope he is OK! xx
Yikes.. we have dear friends.
Yikes.. we have dear friends.. one has his home and business right where it flooded terribly the last storm. .now looking like it will do it again.. very sad.. his places may not be there.
I hope your dad is able and will go where its safe!
Fingers crossed for him,
Fingers crossed for him, Aniki. Please keep us posted.
Hope your dads doing okay
Hope your dads doing okay
Thanks, everyone. He is not
Thanks, everyone. He is not going to get out and will be sheltering at a local evac site. Hotels/motels are booked (he was searching online for hours). My 94yo Dad will be sleeping on an elementary school floor. *dash1*
I would give a year of my life to trade places with him and keep him safe.
I'm sending you my vibes,
I'm sending you my vibes, prayers too if you don't mind. Is he able to be out of there at least?
Thank you, AgedOut.
Thank you, AgedOut.
Out of Florida? No. Planes are grounded. Even if he wanted to try and drive, it would take him hours to get to a safer area. He's 94 and that's too much driving. Plus, he might not be able to buy gas. Then he'd be stranded in his car.
Being stranded in a car is
Being stranded in a car is the worst place to be in this type of storm. He will be much better off in a local shelter. They will have food and access to emergency services. Plus they wouldn't put a shelter in a flood prone area.
We had a flooding event a few years back in which there was no warning in time and the roads out of town were jammed while the whole town flooded. My friend's parents spent the night in their car on the interstate due to roads not passable and traffic stuck. Her mom ended up in the hospital from dehydration. My neighbors tried to drive out and ended up having to ditch their car and swim out the windows and walk home. We spent the night at home due to having a second floor and took in an elderly neighbor. We got rescued by boat and ended up at a shelter. It sounds like the roads in Florida are full and gas stations are empty. Best he stays. Little Idiot and her mom should find a high ground shelter to go to in their area imo.
True, Rumple. The school has
True, Rumple. The school has showers and a cafeteria and they're serving meals so he has food and lots of company (some of his neighbors are there, too).
My oldest brother is further south and still "deciding what to do". Um... there's no gas so he better have a short trip planned and NOT in his electric car. *wacko*
"My oldest brother is further
"My oldest brother is further south and still "deciding what to do".
What?! He stays where he's at or goes to a shelter. There are already tornadoes on the ground!
He's arrogant as hell. Who
He's arrogant as hell. Who knows what the pinhead is thinking. Maybe he doesn't want to leave his wine collection behind. God knows what is going through his foolish head. *unknw*
I don't think you should take
I don't think you should take on feeling "heartless". What has LI ever done that you should love her or feel concerned about her welfare, beyond what we'd feel for any person, potentially in the path of a hurricane? I am 100% certain that my SD29 would do a happy dance if a hurricane killed me, or if anything killed me, tbh. I don't want her to die or suffer a serious illness, but I really don't care about the ups and downs of her life - she has her parents to do that. Your DH can feel any way he wants about his daughter, but he can't impose those feelings on you, or criticise you when you don't share them.
She's never done anything for
She's never done anything for me (or anyone else for that matter). She is just wrapped up in herself, just like The Skunk Ape. We are all bit players in her story, only important when it affects her. We come to her mind when she needs something from us. I know DH is worried. I'm not sure why. She could care less about him but as we all know, hope springs eternal with some of these Dad's. I know when the day comes that DH is very sick, there will only be me by his side.
She doesn't have a house to be destroyed. I'm sure nothing will happen to her apartment. There's only going to be cat 1-2 winds in her area, don't they party down there when it's a cat 1-2? I just can't get all worked up over this. If I sat around and fretted over her every time FL got hit with a hurricane, I'd drive myself crazy. It's FL. That's what's to be expected and I doubt she's even that worried herself. Probably just some localized street flooding in her area, maybe some palm trees in the apartment courtyard blown down, trash cans blown around...
Hunkering down during those
You will not see me depressed in the psych ward over these skids who have no emotional capacity or compassion for me.
Disengaging
Means no texting to her. Roaches and LI will survive the storm . Besides living in FL this is a few runes a year thing
Sacrificial Lamb lives on the
Sacrificial Lamb lives on the west coast of FL. Please keep a good thought for her, everyone.
Hope she stays safe!
Hope she stays safe!
Oops! Forgot that
Oops! Forgot that NoWireHangers lives there, too. And she works in energy, so she'll really be busy.
Hope all down there stay safe
Hope all down there stay safe! She definitely will be busy, especially if she covers the Tampa area.
I hope that the elderly and
I hope that the elderly and infirm all get out safely and that everyone evacuates as ordered.
My prayers are with everyone who has LOs in FL.
Still hasn't texted her...
Still hasn't texted her...
So he just wanted to stress
So he just wanted to stress you out with his hand-wringing then bitch you out for not being concerned enough, but when it comes down to it, he does nothing.
I've thought about this post
I've thought about this post a lot-- and it really resonates with me. Thank you for you honesty. I could honeslty care less about SS16. Over the years I honestly thought something was wrong with me for having the feelings I do toward him- this post is incredibly validating and I appreciate you for sharing you feelings.
The first thing I thought
The first thing I thought when reading this was you can't care more than the parents.
Especially after a ton of toxicity and craptastic behavior. I feel the same lack for some of my family members. Their toxic behavior destroyed any emotion I had for them. No dislike, no disdain, no tolerance... I feel nothing.
I agree with Aniki too. For
I agree with Aniki too. For the record, I also have some biological relatives of my own who are cut from the same cloth as LI and SD29 so I just dont respect them as people. ,( one of whom is about their ages too.) It begs the question that if I wouldnt enable or tolerate the same behavior from someone I am related to by Blood, ( or anyone else on the planet) then what makes anyone think a StepSkidMark is going to get a passn from me like they are that much more important or "special"? Its total BS , yet its somehow expected.
The insurance coverage
The insurance coverage decisions with serial storms are hell. Particularly for those who have already had an adjuster perform an assessment and a settlement estimate presented. There will be separate settlements for the damage from each storm. The independant adjusters are going to make a mint on Helene and Milton. Only about 7wks left in the 2024 season. Hopefully no other storms will make landfall in FL. If it is like 2004, FL is just getting started.
Just got an update on part of my FL family. Their home is on a mandatory evac barrier island on the W coast right at ground zero for Milton's forecast landfall. They are long gone. However, they evacuated to Orlando which is on the likely storm path though toward the N edge of the cone.
When I evacuated, I went to Atlanta to hang out with family or friends until the evac orders were lifted. I had 40Gal of fuel in gas cans in my truck locked with steel cables and locks. I could evacuate, return, and work for several days on a full tank plus my gas cans. I had a number of people begging me for gas who had refused to evacuate and who could no longer remain in their destroyed homes. They could not get fuel because power was out and stations could not pump gas. It sucked to tell them no. However, I had people to help and a job to do. Their choices were theirs to live the consequences of.
Interestingly, this FL family couple is my cousin. His mom is my mom's baby sister. She is who I stayed with on a couple of my 20 years ago evacuations from FL.
He still did not call or text
He still did not call or text her...
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Update: The Skunk Ape has
Update: The Skunk Ape has been posting funny videos so I am sure they are both fine. (Not much aside from rain hit their area) DH never called or texted LI but he has been following the hurricane coverage on TV.