Does step parenting get any easier, I wonder
I've been in my SS's life for two years and 1 day. Meaning, I met him 2 years and 1 day ago today. I have lived full time with him for about 10 months. He is turning 7 in January and there are days/weeks/months that I feel like walking out. I'm not going to lie. Sometimes it's been good. But that's like 10-20% of the time only. Other times it's just difficult and I feel like it is really really troublesome to have a child around.
Ive never wanted any children of my own. I made that choice when I was in my 20s and ive stuck with it for many many years. I'm a schoolteacher so I love kids, but the thought of having my own simply turned me off. when I met my partner, I don't know what I thought. Part of me was thinking that it might be a bonus to have a child that I didn't give birth to. Since I never wanted kids, hey, there's one here already. Why not have a go at raising him.
boy oh boy oh boy. I used to love weekends and school holidays. 'Child free!!! Hooray!!' I'd declare as parents groan and go 'damn I've got the kids at home for summer hols' now I don't get to do my 'child free hooray' thing anymore. After school... weekends... holidays... in your face constantly, the kid
When I look at the bright side of our family dynamics, I think the good thing is that he cannot remember his life very much before my existence and there is no other bios around other than my partner (she got him via anonymous donor dad). So I'm saved from BM/BF dramas. My partner keeps telling me to hang in there. She knows it hard but she says 'in a few years, he wouldn't want to hang out with us anymore. He wouldn't even talk to us.'
i think she's just trying to make the future seem 'rosy'. Its not all doom and gloom here in my relationship, otherwise I think I would've left long ago. There are good bits too. They're just few and far between. Im sick of the incessant chatter. Im sick of the arguing and screaming between my partner and her son. Im sick of him leaving his shit around the house. Im sick of having to do things for him! When I have to make something different for meals on the side because he is a freaking fussy eater, I get super annoyed. I can't make my favorite dishes anymore because he can't have it. ive walked in from a long day at work one evening and my partner was heating up some curry that I made the night before. She said to me, 'I've got dinner here sorted, can you take my card, go out to the corner and grab a pizza for the kid please?' No, I really didn't want to go back out there. I'm tired, I've a headache and it's cold outside. But I had no choice. She said the kid had no food. I said there is. He can have the flatbread with butter, or he can make a sandwich. But no. She wouldn't hear of it. Just go and get a pizza, she said.
moments like this, I really wish he either ate more or just didn't exist in my life. Then immediately I get guilty and feel selfish.
I just find having a child super duper troublesome. We have a good relationship, but I find no JOY in parenting. None of the advertising about parenting that I see in movies or books are coming true for me. I feel absolutely no joy in bringing up a kid. There're perks though. I understand what it's like to be a mother. I know how much more I love my mother. But still, I find no joy in parenting.
Does it get better over time? Do things improve when they grow up? I doubt he'll ever move out of home. He's an only child and their mother-son relationship is very intense.
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At best I think you evolve
At best I think you evolve and begin to see things from a different perspective. You make an adjustment within yourself to accept that certain things won't ever change, but at the same time create an environment for yourself that will give you peace of mind irrespective of how things turn out.
I'm in my 8th year with a now 18(boy) and 24(girl) with no kids of my own. I've learnt so much on this forum, that's helped me make the necessary adjustments in perspective.
So for me, while the circumstances have remained largely unchanged, I've adjusted my expectations significantly and learnt to be at peace.
This would be a hard dynamic
This would be a hard dynamic to deal with. Most of us get some kind of break. Every other weekend visiting the other parent, long school holiday breaks, etc. Not having an end in sight would be overwhelming.
My bios are very attached to me. I divorced their dad when they were 2/4. Many years it was just us, even when married to their dad (he was highly deployable in the Air Force). As they have gotten older, there is less attachment, like it should be. However, I make sure they are in sports, had friends, hosted parties, etc.
Now at 14/16 I go days without seeing them. They are with friends and having a great time with their teenage years, like they should be. They are well adjusted kids that have relationships outside of their parents- like they should.
I am not sure how involved in the outside world he is, but he is young enough to try everything. Sign him up for sports, clubs, camps. Whatever to get him out of the house and the umbilical cord cut. That is the only way to have him move into the real world as a young adult.
Also- make sure you are getting a babysitter and having time alone with your wife. Take trips together, just the 2 of you. Make your relationship the primary relationship in the house. If you don't there won't be anything left when he is an adult.
Honestly, I don't think it
Honestly, I don't think it gets any easier, just different. I've been a stepmother for 11 years. Ss15 doesn't even remember a time without me in his life. He respects me like his mom and even better than his BM but there are things that he has learned from the other house such as lying and manipulation that my own kids have been taught are wrong. As a teenager the challenges are what is he doing when I am not there, and I actually think it's harder now than it was before.
I am an engaged step parent but you don't have to be. You can limit your responsibilities so that you are still enjoying the life you choose.
Does it get easier? It
Does it get easier? It really depends... I mean, yes... theoretically, the boy will grow up.. mature in many ways... eventually becoming a teen that is more likely to have some life outside your home. But, does that really mean you will come to ENJOY having a full time child in the home? maybe not.
I mean, by profession, you are around kids all day and while you may enjoy that to an extent, you sound like you also value your own privacy, calm and respite in your own home. Right now, you aren't getting that because your partner has a child.
I have to observe here that a decent part of your problem IS your partner. Because, she absolutely should not have sent you out for that pizza.. in fact in that situation, I might have told her that you would be happy to watch the curry on the stove and she was welcome to pop out to pick it up because you had a long day and were not going to go back out.
You also should be free to make your favorite dishes.. and you should not be obligated to make special meals for her son. She should ensure that there are acceptable alternatives for her child.. or she can encourage him to expand his food choices and try new things. And she should be the one prepping those alternate meals for him!
And.. at some point you may need to more fully go over what you see as your role in his life. That you are her partner, but not his parent. You do things to help her which may involve caring for him... and you do care ABOUT him, but not as your child.. but as the child of your partner. That you would not intend to step in as his parent if she were to no longer be here.. and that if she has any concerns about what might happen to him, she should ensure that there are plans in place. Explaining that you sometimes need your own respite from kids since you work with them all day.. and she should be more understanding that sometimes giving you that space and peace is how she can support you.
In the end.. if you and she have completely different perspectives on how the dynamics are with the child.. it may be difficult to have a long term, fulfilling relationship with this huge divide in expectations.
I love it. You are right on
I love it. You are right on the money. Gosh I wish I had that much clarity when things are happening! Your insight is amazing. She sees me as a co-parent. Says I'm pretty much his stepmum. But you are right. I care about him and I care for him to help her, though in no way do I want to take on full responsibility for him. She knows already that he will be shipped off to the orphanage if anything happens to her. I've made that part quite clear. I think she needs to know that I'm not joking about it. I think when I get a chance, I will do what you said. Tell her that I'm here as her partner and not as his parent.
I guess adjusting
I guess adjusting expectations is good advice. This website has been a bit of a godsend because I can finally, finally! get some perspective from other step parents. I know of no step parents so it is hard.
as for time alone, I go to my Buddhist church congregation every Sunday morning, so I get some me-time away from partner and kid. I leave the house around 9am, and I come back after lunch. My partner begrudges it but she's gotten used to it now. She isn't exactly happy, but she's accepted it. I told her I've been doing this for the past 13 years (before I met her) so I can't exactly stop going now that I'm with her. Ive tried going less to make her happy but I ended up really unhappy.
we rarely have time alone with just us two. It's always a threesome with us. Walks. Shops. Meals. Always 3 of us. Right from the get go. We have had nights out together 3 times this year. Once in February to celebrate her new job, once for my bday and once for her bday. That's all. He goes to grandparents for a sleepover and we go out for dinner and a movie. I'm used to it now. Again, adjusting expectations. We've been together 2 years only, but rarely go out with just us. She's also let him go there for dinner maybe twice while we go and have dinner before rushing back to pick him up in time for bed at 7.30pm.
if it doesn't get any easier.... gosh... I really don't know what to do. I am an engaged step parent too, though I don't want to be. It's just happened this way. She's a single mum when we met. Naturally I just stepped in and become part of this household. I can somehow foresee that the arguments will get worse when he's a teenager. Why does she seem to think it'll get better when he's not wanting to hang with us? :/
We rarely have time alone
We rarely have time alone with just us two. It's always a threesome with us. Walks. Shops. Meals. Always 3 of us. Right from the get go.
Gosh, this sounds like a nightmare. It seems the "price of admission - her son" to be with your partner is too high. And 10-20% good times is too low. It should be the other way around, percentage-wise. It might be a good idea to really think about if this is the relationship for you. He is only 7 and there are many more years of him in your home.
I agree.
I agree.
I don't know what DH and I would do without our time alone. Even if it is just a couple of hours and we grab lunch on a Saturday afternoon- you have to ditch the kid(s).
Are there grandparents, Aunts, uncles, co-workers with same age children you can work a babysitting swap with?
When mine were little there was a group if 4 of us that would rotate babysitting eachothers kids so that 2X a month we were able to have date nights.
Just make sure that adjusting
Just make sure that adjusting expectations doesn't equal "settling" and accepting less of a relationship than you want.
Sure, having a child, your partner must make caring for that child a primary obligation... BUT, you should also feel like a priority in her life. She should be just as much interested in making you happy as she is making her kid happy... She needs to make time to nurture your relationship and that doesn't mean she is neglecting her child. You can and should have time as a couple. Perhaps not loads of it because he is 7 and would need a sitter but date nights.. special efforts to have a nice evening after he goes to bed. Connecting on more than just a surface level.
She might also benefit from some work on her parenting if she and her son are yelling at each other. That isn't necessarily the most effective way to parent. I am assuming that there are no behavioral issues brought up by the boy's teachers.. no reason to think that his behavior warrants any scrutiny for something like ADHD. As a teacher, you are probably well aware that kids respond well to firm, consistent and calmly reinforced boundaries and rules. A kid with no boundaries actually can feel less secure than one that knows their place so to speak.
Of course, you can't have this as one big huge convo. She would likely come away feeling attacked and that you "hate her son".. which really is not the truth.
I know it was a huge adjustment for me as a childless woman to suddenly have a 5 and 9 yo in my life. And.. my DH was a pretty laid back and permissive dad in many ways.. but over time, with small changes and as the kids got older, things did get easier. We did not have them full time though. In the end, my OSD and I are friendly but not super close... my YSD and I are very close and talk several times a week... I'm not sure I consider them "my kids".. though I joke with my YSD that I get custody if I divorce her dad.. haha... she's an adult.. so really just being smart alec.
But, I get the frustration of wanting to spend time with your SO and there the kid(s) is... and it is limiting to the kind of events you can attend... schedules etc... Since you have the child full time in the home, she should have no objections to a few adult only outings each month...your relationship with her is important too... and it isn't neglectful to leave your child with a babysitter!
ADHD on the cards
Pead said he's adhd but the Ritalin didn't work when she trialed it last year. He's really good at school with listening to his teachers. Mr policeman who cares so much about what others are doing. Teachers say he needs to focus on himself more and not worry about what other people are doing. So he's golden child at school but I think all that effort to be good at school wears him out, so he uses home as an outlet since it's a safe space. He's a good kid but just annoying and doesn't follow instructions. That really irks the teacher in me!
ive had multiple chats with my partner about her parenting. I have to admit that she's taken on board my suggestions and is starting to show some improvement. She still slips back into old ways sometimes when she's knackered from a highly demanding job and he's pushing her buttons. I think im the rule enforcer and im big on follow through. She says things in anger and makes empty threats.
Just hope that he grows up okay and that I get a bit more couple-time with her! Not sure if I want to wait for another 10 years before we finally get time together.
I really hate this for you
From everything I'm reading you have a partner problem not a skid problem.
I can't believe she wanted you to give up your religious practice. I don't have a religious bone in my body but I would never want to deny some else their faith.
Plus asking you to go back out for pizza...
Not very considerate.
One other thing, did you date before you got serious? If your partner could make time for dating earlier in the relationship, she should be able to make time for you now too.
It almost sounds like you
It almost sounds like you pitied her because she was a single mom so you just opted to stay with her...why? You don't really like kids, or like this kid, you don't get the qaulity time alone with her that you would value, and she has the expectation that at some point your will change your mind and want to be a parent to her son. It would appear both of your are in denial of what the other one is telling each other. That doesn't make for a healthy relationship dynamic.
It won't get better if your
It won't get better if your SO still wants you to be the second parent, and if she doesn't improve her own parenting. Will he grow up? Yes, but unparented, he will become just larger and more unruly and more difficult to deal with. Unparented kids don't do well in school, and they don't leave home when you think they should. They become demanding and entitled.
Your SO wants you to be an equal parent to her, which doesn't sound realistic.
Agree with all of the other
Agree with all of the other good advice above.
Also, can you start saying, "No" nicely and politely and stick to it?
The pizza request should have been a non-negotiable no answer from you. You have a reason and there's other food in the house. YOU do not need to cater to picky eaters. I had TWO picky eaters, one on a disorder scale and it was a nightmare. I eventually learned to say no, not buy special things and let my DH deal with it becuae the PARENTS weren't doing anything about it.
Your SO will not like it but she's got to feel the ramifications too since she's partly using you to opt herself out no? I remember one morning where I had enough of re-arranging MY schedule and life to accomodate DH and the SDs. OSD had to go to a birthday party that day and YSD refused to get out of bed so they could all get going, get a gift and drop off OSD on time. YSD was having a meltdown about getting up (she was 9) and OSD was having a meltdown about not leaving. Screaming crying drama all around. DH was struggling up the stairs with YSD, OSD right behind. I was in the entryway with my keys/bag leaving to get my oil changed and run errands - all planned well in advance. DH asked me for help - I remained calm and said, "No, I have had this appointment booked for over a month and I'm not cancelling. Have a good day." And I left.
He never asked me for help with them again in this type of situation.
Yes and no
It took me a full year to adjust to living with SD and boy was that a stressful year.
It sounds like you and your partner need to sit down and discuss your expectations. Your partner likes having you to help parent but that's not your job. I wasn't really engaged as a SP and considered myself dad's GF rather than another parent. Some things I did enjoy doing with SD but I also liked knowing that I could step back at any time because she really wasn't my responsibility. BF didn't like this dynamic which was one of many factors that led to the demise of our relationship.
So yes, discuss roles and boundaries with your partner, express what you need from her and vice versa, and then think about if you realistically can live like that.
Good luck and please keep us updated!
I think our 'dating' time was
I think our 'dating' time was super duper short. We had coffee on our first date. Then second date we went to the playground. That was the day I met him. Third date we went to a play center so he would be occupied and we could chat. The rest is history. My own fault I didn't read the red flags then.
in the beginning, we would meet up on weekends and he was always there. Things weren't super serious so I didn't read the warning signs. Once in a while he'd be left at grandparents' and we'd go out for dinner. It was also the time of covid and lockdowns.... so it disappeared altogether, the going out.
a year of restrictions later, I again didn't read the signs of this relationship and moved in. That was when I felt my relationship with SS got a bit... tricky. I didn't like being 'parent'. It was much nicer being the weekend visit where we could have fun. Thinking back, I guess the 'couple-time' didn't really exist beyond Netflix together after he'd gone to bed. With the demands of work, it's now an early bedtime for me every single night while she watches tv. And I probably join her for Netflix on weekends. Sometimes if SS doesn't take forever with his dinner, we squeeze in a family movie time (weekends only) before he goes to bed.
I think I've adjusted to life together now, but sometimes I seem to want more and fight for it internally. Which then leads to disgruntled feelings towards SS and his annoying behavior plus outbursts at partner. Not fair to either of them! I just hope that with time and honest communication on my part, things get better.
thank you everyone for your wonderful advice! It's so good to hear other people's perspective and point of view. Especially people who are in similar situations with Skids. x
My situation is a bit
My situation is a bit different in that I do get a break (we're on a week on/week off schedule with SS10). And my DH prioritizes adult time.
But I, too, struggle with things. SS is annoying. He's sneaky. He's emotionally immature. And DH is the type to just let things go because he doesn't want to deal with it.
I've also had to struggle with expectations because DH clearly was hoping to have a parenting partner and I refuse to do that. Like you, I love kids. I have a lot in my family. But I never really felt the need to have any of my own. Also, SS has a mother. Acting too maternal could open up all kinds of cans of worms.
Sounds to me like you and your SO need to have done frank discussions about roles and expectations. And about carving out adult time.
I would also recommend you read up on boundaries. You don't have to discuss them with SO, but if you set out for yourself what you will do or tolerate and then hold to it (firmly but with compassion), it can make a big difference.
I said ‘no’ today
I gave myself an imaginary pat on the back. After work today, I went to the shops to buy ingredients for dinner. I got home early for a change, about 4.15pm and planned to have dinner ready by 5. Managed to load the laundry, have a shower, and risotto cooking on stove before 5, and when partner and SS came back, dinner was almost ready. I was unloading dishwasher, trying to fold their laundry, stir the risotto and make SS (a fussy eater) a toasted sandwich. The washing machine chose this time to finish, so I went to pull out the clothes from machine to put into basket (ready to take out to hang), stir the risotto and started buttering the bread for SS's dinner. I had also emptied the squid from air fryer. At which point partner says 'Are you making Chips? Kid can have chips and squid'. So I said no I'm not. He's not eating the squid, he doesn't like it and will just waste it. His tacos last night ended in the bin. She said to me 'make some chips, the air fryer's still not washed, is it? Or have you washed it?'
here comes my big pat moment. I calmly said to her 'I'm trying to do 3 things here at once. I'm folding the laundry, cooking dinner and my clothes need to be hung out. If you want to make him chips, please go ahead.'
Then I left his sandwich half done, gave the risotto a stir, and went outside to hang my laundry.
We went for a walk after dinner and I tried to raise the issue of us not having any 'us' time. I said we could go for lunch on Saturday, or like a walk without him etc. She turned it back on me. Threw my sunday religion time in, then said i don't make an effort to engage with her and it's a package thing, her and her son. If I wasn't happy, I can go and find someone else. Gosh. I'm working on disengaging from the parenting thing and trying to get some us time, and now it's my fault. I also told her that I'm her partner, not his parent. I think I offloaded a bit too much on her tonight. And even said the 'no I'm not making chips for him.' Might've been too much for her to handle!
I think you did just fine. It
I think you did just fine. It was time she got a bit of a shaking up ... If you'd waited any longer, you might not have been half as civil as you were.
Anyway, if you hadn't realized before how much she was using you and taking advantage of you, you have now. You are probably also realizing that sometimes love just isn't enough. Not only is she depriving you of an adult relationship with her but, by clinging to her son like she does, she is not letting him grow emotionally. Does he have any friends at all?
We went for a walk after
We went for a walk after dinner and I tried to raise the issue of us not having any 'us' time. I said we could go for lunch on Saturday, or like a walk without him etc. She turned it back on me. Threw my sunday religion time in, then said i don't make an effort to engage with her and it's a package thing, her and her son. If I wasn't happy, I can go and find someone else.
This is total BS and you know it. You can't even go for A WALK without her kid? OMG. And threw your religious practice at you? That's unfair and wrong. I don't know if someone like her will change. I would start lining up my ducks to leave...
Hey, Boo,
Hey, Boo,
My beloved sister was a Buddhist, a religion whose ‘Four Noble Truths’ brought her great comfort during her prolonged death from cancer. Your partner’s disrespect for your beliefs is both insensitive and unjust. Hon, having been around the block a few times (3 husbands), I’m alert to a lop-sided relationship. Your partner is using you; the inequalities in your relationship are already causing you resentment and pain.
You are probably the same age as my granddaughter so here’s grannyd’s advice:
Time to move on. You will never be on a level playing field with your partner’s child. You will continue to suffer a loss of self-esteem, inviting depression and heartache into your daily life.
Just sighed a huge, grannyd sigh, realizing that all of the elder advice in the world will not prevent someone from jumping into the fire. Still hoping!
Time with just you and your partner
When I went to counseling back in the day, my wise counselor stressed the importance of one-on-one time with DH daily. I responded with tales about 5 high-maintenance kids, keeping the house, cooking and laundry going with such a big family, DH's demanding job with long hours, etc etc. He said, " JRI, I don't care if its just a walk down the street each day". He was right, it helped turn around a deteriorating marriage. If we can do it with 5, it can be done with one.
I would consider this to be a non-negotiable issue.
JRI, Dahlink, you've nailed it!
Lacking private time, no intimate relationship can survive, let alone thrive. In those times of desperation, when the steps became overwhelming, DH and I escaped via walks down the local 'back roads', crept into the woods and smooched. To this day, the scent of pine needles makes my heart go pitty-pat.... Whoooof!
I'm laughing
Whatever it takes! We hired babysitters, sometimes left them with the SD (the oldest). we bought a season pass to a pool and dropped them off, i practically got down on my knees to beg Mom to watch my bios and DH paid BM to watch his, etc. I went to functions that weren't always my first choice (horse races, wrestling matches) but that enabled us to have time together. All I can say is that it worked. Unfortunately, we didnt have any nearby woods. Lol.
It takes a lot of self
It takes a lot of self sacrifice to raise a child. People need a reason to be ok with sacrificing that much of themselves. For bio parents the love and connection with their children is often enough motivation to make those sacrifices. For steps, we often find our motivation in our love for our partner at least in the early years. In time a fortunate few of us may develop a close relationship with the step kids and be willing to make sacrifices for them directly. But for most we do it for our relationship. If your relationship is truly satisfying it's easier to make sacrifices for the child. If the child is hard for us to handle and the partner is not meeting our needs it leaves little emotional energy to sustain our giving of ourselves.
You don't feel the joy
You don't feel the joy because he's not your child. Maybe if you raised him from a baby you would feel more "parently", but you didn't, and your SO isn't raising him right (based on the info i've seen), so his behavior isn't something you can easily tolerate. When you raise your own kids from birth, you unconsciously or consciously get rid of behaviors you can't tolerate (unless you're the type to pawn them off all the time.) Your SO really needs to find some child care or babysitters so you guys can have some alone time. Assuming she wants alone time with you and doesn't want you to BE the babysitter. If that turns out to be the case, run!