The Crazy get crazier
We had a bday party for a friend at our house yesterday- it was fun, of course drinks were had. DH went to bed before me since he had to work early today. My phone rang at 10pm- it was Demon15. I did not answer. Apparently she called DH also, asking if he could pick her up because Crazy and her BF were smoking in the basement (like usual, but for some reason it was bothering her more this time) and she wanted to come to our house....but DH was almost asleep and had been drinking so he told her she was coming here tomorrow anyway, so he couldn't pick her up.
Around midnight I was asleep and DH's phone started ringing, then my phone started ringing. It was SK's- I feel a little bad now, but I just cannot with these skids these days so I did not answer and DH didn't wake up. I had a feeling Crazy was kicking them out- if they couldn't come here, she would have to let them stay. She needs to realize she can't just kick them out. I'm over her nonsense.
This morning DH had to leave work at 8am to pick up skids, apparently there was drama there. I'm irritated because today is my last day off and I was supposed to be home alone- DH was going to pick them up after work around 4pm. So he drops them off here at 8am instead. Demon just filled me in on what happened last night- and this folks, is why we call BM Crazy. Apparently it started with Crazy telling Demon that DH and I "barely spent any money on Demon's Christmas gifts". Demon said yes they did, they (DH) bought every single thing on my Amazon wish list. Which is true. Crazy continued to say we bought cheap stuff, the pants were from the dollar store, Demon said no, they were from Amazon, she picked them out herself. Crazy said she spent more on Demon, Demon argued and said the list she gave Crazy was about the same $, Crazy called her ungrateful (which...Demon didn't even bring this up, Crazy was the one fixated on who spent what), Demon said she was grateful, she was just explaining that we weren't cheap. Crazy was mad Demon was "defending" us. Then Crazy said she bought SS a plane ticket home (true- it was $150), and DH gave SS money for a UFC fight as his Xmas gift, but then "didn't even give him a gift to open on Christmas". What?? That's not how it works when you get an experience as a gift! You don't also get physical gifts! DH gave SS $250, which is more than Demon got. Demon said that SS's gift was the ticket to the fight- Crazy said yes, but I bought him a ticket home and still got him a gift to open- your dad didn't even do that. Demon said the ticket to the fight was a an expensive gift, he didn't need more things- Crazy was pissed that Demon was again "defending" us.
Then they got into it about the smoking- Crazy and her BF told Demon to "deal with it", and "open a window" if the smoke bothered her, and Demon said when they went to the Dr. next for an appt. for her medical condition, where it's imperative that Demon is not around smoke, that they will need to update the chart to "Smoking in the house", instead of "no smoking in the house". Crazy and her BF said go for it, no one will do anything, they can call CPS on us for all we care. Crazy also tried to tell Demon that Demon taking a sip of our wine is the "same thing as her breathing in their smoke". LOL. I said, you aren't going to get CANCER from taking a sip of our wine once a month. Crazy's BF left at some point and Crazy kicked Demon out, saying it was her fault that she just broke up with her BF (for the ~25th time, and that is not even an exaggeration), and Demon ruined Christmas and New Year's. She made SS18 drive Demon here at midnight- we lock the door from the garage to the house when we go to bed, so they couldn't even get in. They went back to Crazy's and Crazy said we turned off our phones and locked them out on purpose. She tried to make Demon leave again but she had no where to go. 30 mins later Crazy went into Demon's room and said she couldn't sleep so Demon needed to leave. Demon again said she had nowhere to go, Crazy said "that's because you have no friends". Demon called a gay guy friend who lives nearby who said she could stay there for the night. Demon told Crazy she was going there- Crazy said no, she didn't want her to leave after all. I just...can't.
Crazy told Demon that she will be staying with us for "5 months, to make up for the 5 months that she had her". For anyone keeping track, this is referring to when Demon refused to come by us this summer, (not for 5 mos, it was 3mos), and Crazy has been saying she will make Demon stay here for 5 mos ever since. She also told Demon she will be dropping her gerbil off on the curb in front of our house at 4:30pm today. Try it. I dare her to try it. I told Demon she will be getting a visit from our local PD for animal endangerment, because you can't just drop an animal off on the curb.
DH and I leave tomorrow for a 3 day trip- we get back Friday. NYE and NYD are Crazy's day to have skids (SS18 is following Demon's custody schedule while he's home from college). They are supposed to go back there tomorrow. I can already see this is going to be a thing. We are going on the trip no matter what, and yes SS could stay here with Demon. But we didn't really want to have to worry about that. I hate this woman with the heat of a thousand fiery suns. I hope she gets the worst STD there is, the kind that itches and burns causes the most discomfort. I could go on for hours about what I wish on her.
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I have no words. All I can
I have no words. All I can say is "I'm so sorry" for everything this crazy dynamic puts you through.
I appreciate your sympathies.
I appreciate your sympathies. It feels like there is no way this is real life sometimes.
She wins the Steptalk prize
I think your BM might be the winner of Worst BM on the site. How awful she is.
I don't want this prize!
lol. Crazy was mad that Demon was defending us- Demon said, at least dad is going to counseling with me to work on our relationship. Crazy had the nerve to tell Demon she didn't need to go to counseling with her to work on their relationship, she "doesn't do anything wrong". Demon told her, you've had issues with all 3 of your kids now, one of them didn't even live with you for 3 years of high school- you don't think maybe this is you? Demon has her issues, but she also can have logic on occasion.
Ugh she sounds like The Skunk
Ugh she sounds like The Skunk Ape. Can't deal with her own mini me children. She dumped LI off on purpose doorstep at 18 when the CS ran out. By that time LI already had her deeply ingrained issues and living with her was a nightmare. Crazy is a terrible mom with personality issues. Some of those issues have been passed on genetically to demon. Other issues Demon has are due to 15 years of terrible parenting and having a poor role model for a mom. She's going to continue to be a handful for you guys. She will always have a mercurial relationship with her mother. You'll have to look at what realistically she can do after high school to support herself. It may mean a certification instead of a degree but I would be having these conversations now
Good for Demon!
I know she's a royal pain sometimes but it sounds like she's seeing things clearly.
Do you think you or DH could start talking to Demon about how
Do you think you or DH could start talking to Demon about how to disengage from BM when BM obviously just wants to start a fight? Once Demon realized nothing she said was going to make BM happy about the Christmas gifts, she should have just quit engaging. I know that is difficult for a kid to do with a parent, expecially when the parent is crazy - but what BM wanted was a fight, which Demon gave her by defending you and DH.
I know you have been through this before, with BM kicking the kids out, but if this keeps up is it worth a call to CPS or even the police if it happens again?
100%
I said this to DH this morning. I said we should have called CPS (we probably still can, but we leave today for 3 days, plus it's NYE). Crazy needs to know it's not ok, and she needs someone to talk to her about it. What if she does this again and we are out of the country and SD really can't find somewhere to go? (I mean she should be able to, but seriously, this is ridiculous). I don't want her sprung on us willy-nilly because her mom is a psycho. She was in her room doing nothing, things were de-escalated. It was over. Crazy came back in half an hour later and made her leave because she "couldn't sleep". That is plain insanity. DH just said, "hopefully this is a one-off". Because he doesn't want to deal with CPS. I said, this is like the 6th time she's done it, at least! It's not a one-off!! We are 100% going to be dealing with this again. I am going to call CPS myself if it happens again, especially in the middle of the night.
Also, Demon said Crazy was texting her yesterday threatening to drop the gerbil off on our sidewalk and other things and she just wasn't responding. DH told her that's what she needed to do- ignore her, let her get it out of her system. He used to tell SS to ignore her also and just not respond at all. Exactly what you said, disengage. He is teaching Demon the same thing. But, according to SS, (who wasn't even home when this happened), this is Demon's fault. She came in and got into Crazy and her BF's fight. SS was trashing Demon, and almost defending Crazy, which is ridiculous, because SS has been in Demon's position manyyyy times. DH said the truth is probably somewhere in the middle. Either way, the only answer is to ignore her, because there is no logic.
Your DH cracks me up when he says this is a "one off."
Your DH cracks me up when he says this is a "one off." I know that is not true simply based on reading your posts - he has lived it and still thinks this is the only time she has kicked the kids out? I know involving CPS is always a risk, but this can't keep happening. Hope you have a great time while you are away!
Asinine
It's simply a ridiculous statement. It's what someone who wants to take no action would say. She had done it 5-6 times before! I am not a do-nothing person- DH is. I am not playing with Crazy. I will call CPS on her next time.
What an evil woman.
What an evil woman.
What a crazy woman. I feel
What a crazy woman. I feel bad for Demon to have to put up with a parent acting in that way.
Hopefully Demon will see her
Hopefully Demon will see her mom's behavior for the crazy that it is and use it as an example of what not to do, allowing her to correct her behavior in the future.
But - remember Demon has a history of atrocious behavior and may be using this incident to pit one house against the other in a competition to get more attention, sympathy, and favors. I hope i'm wrong but Demon was raised by Crazy for all these years. Those deep seated behaviors are hard to overcome. Protect yourself and don't let your guard down.
Yes...
...agreed.
TrueNorth77, so sorry you are going through this.
I definitely think it's a
I definitely think it's a combo of seeing the truth about her mom, but Demon also takes sides as she sees fit. This time it was our side. She waffles. As you said, can't be trusted. It's nice to see we aren't always the bad guys at least. lol
She knew you were going away
And since she wasn't going craz. She wanted to give you hell before your trip. First thing... you can't deal with crazy.. IDK what to do. Tell her to keep her kids CO. and you will deal with it when you get back
THIS!!!!
Crazy is crazy like a fox. She knew you had plans and so she started a fight with Demon just to disrupt your plans.
They all do this on purpose just like narcissists start fights on purpose then gaslight you.
That is all this is about. Even if Demon hadn't defended you she would have found some way to have a blowout with her and dump her off at your house thus wrecking your plans and freeing up Crazy's plans for NYE.
Giving me flashbacks
To when Toxic Troll would go on one her crazy streaks and get into arguments with either Feral Forger or her boyfriend tweedle Dum. Husband would have to drop everything and do the pick up. And of course I get the skids early. And it sometimes would happen while we were on a trip for something like our anniversary.
Im sorry you are going through this, and happy trails!
It always happens around a
It always happens around a trip, without fail. She always puts a damper on it, causes chaos before or during. I am sitting here thinking if I want to deal with this, and skid anxiety, for 2-1/2 more years, because I'm just so sick of it...
What Rumplestiltskin said!
What Rumplestiltskin said!
Remember Demon has a history of atrocious behavior and may be using this incident to pit one house against the other in a competition to get more attention, sympathy, and favors. [You don’t know Demon’s intention for ‘taking your side.’]
I hope i'm wrong but Demon was raised by Crazy for all these years. Those deep seated behaviors are hard to overcome.
Protect yourself and don't let your guard down, as in don’t get emotional invested in ‘Demon has finally saw the light!’ Toxic people and their spawn love, love, love drama and in-fighting.
What thinkthrice said!
Crazy is crazy like a fox. She knew you had plans and so she started a fight with Demon just to disrupt your plans.
They all do this on purpose just like narcissists start fights on purpose then gaslight you.
When we went on our first camping trip, BM decided to stir the pot. She picked a fight with OSD, telling her that camping was for poor people and that DH should take us all to a 5-star hotel instead for a “stay-at-home” vacation. Of course, OSD bought into it completely.
Her attitude was terrible for the entire trip. Nothing was good enough for her. She complained about everything—the tent, the food, the activities. She made it very clear she hated camping and kept harping on how we should have been at a hotel, just like the Mothership said we should.
It felt like it went on forever, her sulking and grumbling about how unfair it was. The trip became less about enjoying the outdoors and more about enduring her endless complaints.
My suggestions:
Keep up your disengagement—don’t let yourself get dragged into Demon’s Drama Triangles. In these scenarios, Demon casts herself as the poor, helpless victim, the Crazy Mothership becomes the evil persecutor, and you and your DH are expected to don white armor, grab shields, and ride in as Demon’s rescuers.
Don’t fall for it. Just don’t do it!
Is the girl in therapy? If so, she should be. It’s the therapist’s job to teach Demon about how to navigate Drama Triangles – not you – the very people Demon is trying to drag into her drama with her BM.
She's definitely in therapy!
She's definitely in therapy! And you are right with all you said (and everyone else). I'm staying disengaged. I am honestly just over it all though. Crazy. Demon. Dreading going back to my house because Demon will be there, and SS. He's been at our house for a few days and I can barely stand it. He just repeats what we say. Asks stupid questions. If we talk and he overhears he's all "what? What did you say? Who did that"? I expect this out of a young kid, not an almost 19yr old. 2-1/2 more years of this. It seems impossible.
Also, poor gerbils. It's
Also, poor gerbils. It's always the animals the suffer the most. How awful and terrified they would be sitting out on a curb. People like Crazy should go to jail for animal abuse and be barred from owning pets.
Seriously.
First she used SS's cat against him, always threatening to drop it off somewhere, or get rid of it, or make him get rid of it, now she's doing the same with Demon's gerbil. She's such a terrible human. I almost want her to drop it off outside so I can have her get a ticket for animal abuse.