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Ungrateful little witch!

happygolucky's picture

BF and I spent the day today drive for over two hours, each direction, to go to SD13's basketball game. After her game we took her out to lunch, her choice and went to a chocolate factory for a tour. We picked up a bunch of chocolate to take home. After we got home we made a pizza and watched a movie. A fun day, or so I thought. When we told SD13 that she had to get in the shower to get ready for tomorrow she started arguing, like she always does. SD13 knows that we need to be out of the house early tomorrow because we have a family day trip planned. We've been planning it for a month now. Well SD13 told us that she didn't have fun today. She also informed us that she hates family trips and hates her family. I looked at BF and it looked like someone hit him in the stomach with a wrecking ball. Why would SD13 say such a hurtful thing? We've been getting along pretty well lately. I was quite pleased with how she's been around us. Why?

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sparky's picture

Most of all she hates herself and she is projecting that hate on everyone around her. Welcome to the world of the 13yo's. Some of them don't pull their head out of their ass and start acting normal until about 18. I would tell her if I smelled like her I would hate myself too. Also getting a shower isn't an option.

happygolucky's picture

We've told her that she needs to shower because she stinks, she doesn't care. If we let her she would go an entire week without showering. I would have thought that by age 13 she would be concerned with how she appears to her friends and other students. She doesn't give a crap. We still have to tell her to brush her teeth every day. She thinks that gum can cover up morning butt breath. It's a DAILY struggle

Sita Tara's picture

I would suggest two books (regardless if she has a mental issue- they are really good reads for dealing with this kind of behavior.)

One is "Stop Negotiating With Your Teen"

and the other is

"Stop Walking On Eggshells."

You may see things that are very familiar in them and take what advice from them works for you.

Goodluck! I have a SD who is borderline and/or bipolar, and though she doesn't have a weight issue now due to constant sports schedules, she will if she doesn't get a grasp on her food binging issues. She also has no gratitude for anything once the moment has passed (inability to sustain a positive experience- once it's done with it either wasn't that fun or is forgotten and she's instantly bored.) My SD also can't retain consequences either.

Goodluck!

"Om Tare Tutare Ture Mama Ayurpunye Jnana Putin Kuru Svaha"
~Sita Tara Mantra

happygolucky's picture

Thanks for the suggestion. I have ordered them already. I can't wait to get them. I hope there is some useful suggestions for both BF and myself.

SD13's weight has drastically improved. She has now lost almost 40lbs. She played volleyball, she participated in a local swim team and now she is playing basketball. She's also signed up to play softball. It even amzaed her that she lost the weight so easily and without having to diet too much. The only main change to her diet is that we only eat out once a week. She ate out constantly when she was with her mom.

Again, thanks for the suggestion! It is VERY appreciated!

stepmom2one's picture

and wanted to make everyone else mad. All kids do it. Once she realizes that her negative comments don't affect you she'll stop.

happygolucky's picture

How are we supposed to not let it affect us? Those kind of comments are very hurtful. I even asked why she said that and let her know that it was very hurtful to BF and myself. She didn't have an answer. She just glared at me. What the heck did I do wrong?

Sita Tara's picture

Before dealing with a mentally unstable teen I would have agreed with this. But unfortunately, when you are dealing with one with obvious psych issues, their drama sets the whole family off.

I suggest watching "Rachel Getting Married." (Happygolucky, wait til AFTER reading some of those books, or you will find yourself getting very angry with the lead character. Well you still might, but after reading Eggshells you might have a little more empathy for what she is saying throughout the film. Although it still took me another 6 months and more reading to get there myself!) But for those not dealing with a mentally unstable teen, it is a very good window into the destructive force a person like that has on a family.

"Om Tare Tutare Ture Mama Ayurpunye Jnana Putin Kuru Svaha"
~Sita Tara Mantra

happygolucky's picture

I've moved it to the top of my Netflix. I'll be sure to read the books first though. Thanks for the suggestion.

stepmom2one's picture

I used to get so mad at my SD, and I would ask her why she would want to hurt us. She just loved that she had gotten to us, it seemed to make the behavior continue instead of stop. A normal child would have felt guilt, which is what I was hoping for. But I learned quickly that she has no feelings, or empathy. She is a master manipulator, I am sure she learned this from her BM.

And believe me, it is not that this behavior doesn't bother me. It drives me crazy! I just want to shake her and ask WTF is the matter with her. My H and I just pretend like it has no effect on us. We say nothing that would make her think she hurt us, I often have to leave the house though, otherwise my face would give it all away (my h is a bit better at hiding his emotions).

I understand where you are at, I've been there. But this has been working for us for the past few months.

happygolucky's picture

I didn't realize just how "uncool" I actually am until she was around her friends. The funny thing is that her friends like her clothing, room, etc. I picked it all out. SD13 HATES shopping. She is still trying to fit in to things she wore in the third grade.

happygolucky's picture

We are back from our family day trip. We went and did glass blowing. She said she wanted to do it after seeing it on TV. So I finally found a place that allows children under 16, and speaks English (we live in Europe). She complained and was nasty the ENTIRE time. After she got done with her vase she threw it away saying that she didn't want any crap to remind her of the stupid family trip. She was even more nasty on the ride home, well until she fell asleep. I'm more exhausted from dealing with her than I am from dealing with my four month old.

happygolucky's picture

I don't remember being that crazy, do you? Granted I was no angel, but nothing like this.

Sita Tara's picture

I was very depressed though out my adolescence, greatly due to family tragedy that hit when I was 12 (I've posted about it before- my 17 yo brother was paralyzed by a drunk driver who was involved in a high speed police chase and had already done time for vehicular homicide). But I didn't act out like this, even though my pain was valid.

At first I tried to get SD help when I could see she had many issues regarding BM. Then I started to realize (before DH was ready to) that SD was contributing to the issues with BM, then the issues had nothing to do with BM. SD cannot retain experiences- positive or negative, which means once something fun is over it's over for her, she can't fondly remember it and immediately requires stimulation from a new source. She also therefore can't retain consequences as a motivator not to repeat inappropriate behavior.

I really think you will feel much better, at least that you have some ability to have compassion for the pain SD is in, feeling that no one understands her misery, because to the rest of us it's superficial and self induced. But it's really important to reach a place where you can let go of the pettiness of it. For a while, being right about them supercedes finding help. I think this is a process, where we finally have to admit we can't fix it, or them, at least not without help from an unbiased professional.

I feel that we only have a few years to help them realize they have a relational problem, that therapy and getting help is OK, and hopefully give them at least that tool before we aren't there anymore to micromanage, setting boundaries for them all the time.

Otherwise, we will definitely end up with them back in our homes when they break the law, get knocked up or become addicts. These kids are high risk for those things.

"Om Tare Tutare Ture Mama Ayurpunye Jnana Putin Kuru Svaha"
~Sita Tara Mantra