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SMatwitsend's picture

This forum is exactly what I have been looking for. I need some suggestions, I apologize in advance if I provide too much information but I would rather give too much than not enough.

My husband and I have been married 2 years and dated for 2 years prior to that, my SD is 15 and her parents divorced when she was 5. Her BM remarried 5 years ago and has had 2 more children since. I also have a son who is 10.

So in the last 5 years my SD went from being the only child and grand child and center of everyone's world to having half sisters, a step brother and 2 cousins added to the family so she is no longer the center of attention, this is where the problems started. While I understand the psychology of it and feel for her, the changes do not excuse poor behavior.

The immediate issue (which is actually 2 years running). She is with us every other weekend and we have very few rules at our house and a big part of that is we have very little in the form of available consequences. Our rules, Use common sense in your actions and decisions -- when you make a choice consider if you would be proud to have that decision placed on the front page of the news paper for all your friends and family to see. Respect - show everyone respect, even if they don't deserve it always take the high road. Homework - must be completed and turned in on time. For all of these rules, while we can preach them in the end we have no way to enforce them or provide a consequence other than a talk when they are broken. (we have created an incetive/punishment that relates to the homework but that is not the one of issue). The only other "rule" we have revolves around her headgear for her braces. Her orthodontist requires her to wear her headgear at night when she sleeps, she has been supposed to wear this for the last 2 years, her BM does not make her wear this even though we are putting thousands of dollars (out of pocket) worth of dental work at risk. We realize we can not control her BM's behavior we can only guide what happens at our house. So for the 1st year we fought to try to get to remember it and then if she remembered to bring it to actually wear it. Finally a year ago we instilled a consequence. She was required to wear it for 8 hours each 24 hour period, if she chose not to wear it at night she had to wear it for 8 continous hours during the next day, and we would not alter planned family events because she was wearing head gear so if we were going mini golfing she was coming with wearing it. So
since explaining the consequence clearly to SD, she has broken the rule appx 10 times each time manipulating her dad into not enforcing the consequence. So DH and I had a talk about the effects of no consequence for her behavior on her and future expectations as well as what my BS was seeing and learning from. The agreement was the next time she broke the rule the consequence would be enforced with NO EXCEPTIONS. Of course the next time he had to give something and allowed her to pick to wear it either Sat or Sunday so she picked Sunday. Then later when I wasn't there he agreed to not require her to wear it to church but she had to put it on right after. We were scheduled to go to a movie in the after noon, she put the gear on after church and then advised us she was NOT wearing it to the movie, we argued again that she knew the consequence and once again when we shouldn't have we bent the consequence to her benefit (which I just HATE doing) and she agreed so she needed to wear it. She didn't so she stayed home from the movie.

She is due to come this weekend and still owes us 8 hours of wearing headgear, we have advised her that she is not allowed to bring her cell phone or Ipod to our home, while we can't take them away we can not allow them in our home, and she asked to go to a hockey game and we said no. But during the arguements of last weekend and the phone calls of this week everytime she is "in trouble" all of the sudden she hates our house and she doesn't have to follow our rules because they are stupid and we can't punish her and she doesn't want to come any more.

SD advised us that she is not following the rule because it is stupid and she doesnt' agree with it so she doesn't need to follow it. So at this point I feel there is no way we can provide any exception to the consequence (not that there ever should have been) not so much about the headgear but about not being able to select the rules you follow. If she would like to discuss the reasonableness of the rule she is welcome to do so but NOT after she has broken the rule. I also feel her bad behavior has been rewarded WAY too many times and sets a horrible precident for my BS who always gets the short end of the stick in favor of the "princess".

Am I being unreasonable in expecting that the punishment stick when she has understood the rule for over a year and been reminded of the consequence 10+ times and had as many warnings?

Also what is the best way to handle the threats of "if I don't get what I want I am not coming for my weekends". I don't go for it but of course it breaks my DH heart, I know its manipulitve, but I am tempted to say (but of course never would), "Good don't come" and then follow through, but that would make her feel that we don't want her there and that of course is NOT the case. We simply want a respectful SD who follows the rules and sets a good example for her SB.

A few side notes she has become increasingly inconsiderate, rude and disrespectful of me and my BS which we will be discussing this weekend but of course not much more we can do as no available consequences as her BM won't help enforce consequences. In fact her BM eggs this on as she loves to see the drama cause then she looks like the wonderful mom though they have a whole different set of issues.

My BS is my DH SS but has never met his BD and is with us 100% of the time, DH is able to rule him with an "iron fist" and no leeway on consequences.

This is causing stress between my BS and DH, and between me and DH and all of us and SD.

HELP!

Totalybogus's picture

Have you asked the orthodontist to install another device to get the same result? My sd had something placed inside her mouth that did basically the same thing as the headgear. She had to wear it for about 10 months. She was not able to remove it and it did not pop out and cause pain.

I only mention this because when I was a child I was required to wear headgear at night too. At that time they did not have an alternative. I can tell you it is EXTREMELY uncomfortable and I lost many nights of sleep because I sleep on my side and with that apparatus, it is impossible to sleep on your side. It pops out and cuts the inside of your mouth. It is painful to say the least.

Of course wearing it during the day was not an option. At that age, girls especially do not want to be embarassed before their peers.

SMatwitsend's picture

She has never complained about pain or inability to sleep and we have asked specifically why she doesn't wear it and she just doesn't want to, it has nothing to do with pain or sleep issues. However that would have been a great alternative if that was part of the problem.

The main issue now is the "choosing" of which rules to follow. I don't want her to start deciding not drinking and driving is a stupid rule so I'm not going to follow it.

Totalybogus's picture

Have you specifically asked her if it is painful? Maybe you can open a dialog with her about it and find out the reasons she doesn't want to.

I realize that you are trying to instill house rules, but I really don't think this is the hill you want to die on.

Phyllis's picture

Wow, I am so impressed with you. You have set up clear rules and consequences. Your DH is the problem and as I understand his side, he really needs to think of the long term consequences. SD is showing both you and her father no respect. It is so hard to raise a child where the rules in both houses are not the same. I would suggest sitting down with DH and then having DH sit down with BM and ask her if she wants the "best" for her daughter she needs to set up some rules and follow through on them. Teenagers are going to always push the boundaries and if you let them get pass those boundaries, then there is chaos. If you read my post you will see what happens when you don't give children boundaries. When you have two separate houses raising a child, there needs to be a alot of discussion and agreements between the parents IMHO.

SMatwitsend's picture

Phyllis I did read your post and it was heartbreaking, I don't even know how to respond. This is my 2nd marriage and my 2nd experience with having a step daughter, the previous one lived with me and my heart has been broken for sometime as I haven't seen her in two years but she became "my own" in the time she lived with me, your post brought back so many memories I couldn't even respond.

As for the BM we have tried talking with her but she likes to egg on problems between SD and especially me as she is intimidated by me because for a long period of time SD was talking of coming to live with us and BM was feeling like i was trying to replace her. So now BM does what she can to create problems she doesn't care if it causes SD problems she just doesn't want SD to live with us because then she would lose the CS which we could care less about.

Yes Bogus we have asked, she has said it is not painful she just doesn't like the look of it.

Phyllis's picture

LOL of course she doesn't like the look of it she is a teenage girl. I can't believe you did it twice, ah yes I can. You know when I met these kids they were living in a car while mom was in a meth house. They just wanted someone to care. It was like "I like you (husband) but man oh man, you got me with these kids." I totally understand it has taken years for me to forget what BM did to these kids (never forgive), and she understands how much I love them. I just talked to SS and asked him how he felt and he told me this is the way it has to be right now and that it doesn't have to be forever. So I have a little hope. Have you ever taken just her to lunch and had like a "girl's date"? Talk to her about how it is affecting the whole house. Kids think the world should be fair and if she understands it isn't fair for her to break the rules but BS has to stick to them she might come around - just a thought.

SMatwitsend's picture

I am shocked I did it twice too after how heartbreaking it was to lose the first one. Infact I refused to meet this SD until we knew we were headed to marriage, I did not want to get drug in due to her which is what happend with the last one.

We have had that kind of a talk with her and it did help for a short time and we are due for another. I actually working on typing up an outline of discussion points for our "meeting" with her. Maybe that is my problem, I am far to logical and organized and I expect her to be too, I don't deal well with illogical reasoning.

But so far I have the rules to be reoutlined and consequences, disrespectful behavior, manipulative behavior and expectations moving forward.

I also made an appointment for my husband and I to talk with a counselor through our EAP that can help him to see how his responses are enabling her poor behaviors and so someone else can explain how she is manipulating him so its not just coming from me.

Its gonna be a long weekend!

Phyllis's picture

I really hope all goes well for you. May I also suggest you emphasized you love them and you are only thinking of the best for the family.

SMatwitsend's picture

Thanks for the support Phyllis, and yes you are absolutely right that is the ultimate focus!