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Does it ever end!!!!

Walker's picture

Would just like some advise.......Have been dating boyfriend 4 years and always knew that his family manipulated him but this past summer it was totally out of control. His brother was arrested 4th OUI and he ran to bail him out for thousands of dollars, brother said he would get money in a week it has been four months... his daughter had the same thing arrested and then called when fine was due crying that her license was suspended and did not have money to pay fine...has sister is an alcoholic and always calls for money. He continuously gives money to all of them. We had an argument about all of this....I work two jobs own my own home and really live week to week. Never ask anyone for anything. Will go without. I really believe that you should live within your means. I have two bc 19 and 23 and they work hard and pay their own bills. DD calls and says "daddy" and he gives her anything she wants. . . . she needed laptop for college then quit, needed snow tires, he flew her to Florida so she would not be home alone when mother went... she was 18, whatever his daughter wants she gets. I really care about this man and wanted to have a life with him but I dont see this ever ending. I told him that he was not helping to let his daughter grow up he was enabling her. I really beleive he does see this but cant stop. All of them have their partners and live a life. They all went on vacation this past summer but didnt have money to pay their fines. We are not talking someone being down and out needing groceries.. he is paying for other peoples bad choices. I just cant stand it anymore. He lives without so many necessary things because of his family. Why cant he see this.

Walker's picture

Sorry I didnt add that bf daughter is now 21.........she took out a car loan a short while ago and then decided to quit full time job to go to hairdressing school and daaaddy took over car payments

sandye21's picture

If you DO want to spend the rest of your life with this man, keep separate bank accounts so he can rescue his family using his own money. Then contribute equal amounts to all of your every day expenditures such as rent, etc. If you marry him though, you may be partly responsible for the payments if he has to borrow money to save other people. The odds are he is not going to change but you are fortunate to be in a position of leaving if you need to.

Walker's picture

Thanks for responding....I just hate the fact that he is enabling his family for their bad choices and he goes without....I dont want or need his money...I own my own home, have a retirement when the time comes and have two jobs....I just dont believe they love him the way they treat him...

winehead's picture

This sounds just like my DH. I knew he was bad with money, knew he never said no to his kids (teens and young adult at the time). I married him anyway, kept my money separate from his. But he bounced checks, paid hundreds every month in late fees and NSF fees, ran from bill collectors, and borrowed money from me to cover, then borrowed more money to give to his son for one emergency or another.

I finally had enough and told him he either got his financial act together or I was done. I meant it, and it was awful but I couldn't tolerate the way we were living. He asked me a couple of weeks later if he could borrow more money, and he was shocked that I said no. Seriously, shocked. What, I was teasing when I said to pack your shit and get out? He's not asked again.

So anyway I love this man and he agreed to face the money monster. We set up weekly financial meetings between us, set up a household budget, got some financial software to track expenses, made a calendar of recurring expenses. All this was a new concept for him. We do have separate bank accounts, with one joint account for paying joint expenses that we both contribute to but for which I am primarily in control. And guess what. He no longer bounces checks, has paid off his car loan and credit cards. Duh. I'm not sure he's ever refused a money request from his son, but I have heard him say "I don't get paid for another week so you have to wait." And 9 times out of 10 whatever imaginary crisis there was has passed. Another duh.

If you can separate out the financial irresponsibility from what is otherwise a good relationship, you might be able to survive. But keep your money separate and set your boundaries and be firm about it. Don't get sucked into the drama.

Auteur's picture

Great story, winehead. Especially the part about the emergency suddenly disappearing when they have to WAIT!!

I find that these guilty daddies NEVER make their children wait for ANYTHING from infancy on up.

Instant pacification model of free ranging non-parenting.

There is NO such concept as delayed gratification with the skids. It's all "red faced toddler" I WANT IT NOW!!

winehead's picture

Totally agree. I had NO idea what I was stepping in when SS expected me to leave work one day when he needed something. But I innocently said no. GEEZUS you'd have thought I killed his puppy. Total shock from both SS and DH. "Oh. Well, can you get away in an hour?" No. I'm friggin' at work.

Guilty Daddy, aka my DH, has learned a very hard lesson about not parenting this young man. SS took to self-medication, ended up in rehab, and is learning from scratch about who is responsible for his own needs. That would be SS himself. And he's doing great, too. SS had to tell DH to STOP giving him things, STOP smoothing his way. So proud of that young man now.

edwina7's picture

I had a similar situation, but not quite as bad My husband's alcoholic 35 year old son drove us into counseling and the recovering alcoholic counselor told him that he could not help his son by enabling (coaching) etc. out of his disease. Sojn would quit if and when he wanted to. That was 4 years ago and he (son) is still pounding the alcohol!
Your husband needs to run to the nearest Al-Anon meeting with you and go for at least 6 meetings! He needs to stop being co-dependent to these
sick people/relatives. Good luck!