Can't stand the child, but love my partner dearly
Hello all This is my first time here at the forums (So happy to have found this site) and my first time as a potential step-parent. I really, really need to reach out to others who have been there for support right now, as this is so frustrating for me..
My boyfriend and I have been together for almost a year now. He is so loving and kind to me, has been there for me when others haven't, and is generally very easy to get along with. We have a very good relationship with each other, there's just one problem of course.. his son.
His son is 5 years old. I knew about him before getting into the relationship and I knew this would be very different for me, but I wanted to at least try. In the beginning, his son was somewhat decent with his behavior. Now, it is only getting worse. He never listens, always tries to argue back with his dad, squeals and screams when he doesn't get his way, won't take no for an answer, tells other adults that he doesn't have to mind them, has tried to punch his dad for telling him "no" to something on several occasions. I could go on and on. Unfortunately his dad only makes things worse sometimes by arguing back with him instead of enforcing any kind of real punishment immediately.
My boyfriend only gets him every other weekend, but sometimes he gets him for extended weekends or other random days if his bio mother decides she wants to get rid of him for awhile. This past summer he kept him for several weeks. Those extended stays are really trying on me.
The child has no feelings for me at all, that much is obvious. Recently his dad asked him to offer me a piece of his candy, to which he simply replied "No."
Every other weekend, my family gets together for dinner at my parents' home. Usually this dinner falls on the weekend that my boyfriend has his son. The child acts awful in front of my family...for whatever reason, his bad behavior amplifies very intensely during those get-togethers. My nephews and niece have dreaded to see him coming, which makes me sad because its causing them to enjoy our time together much less. My niece is the same age he is and I can tell he really gets to her..She starts shutting down when he is around - He tries to boss her around and has snatched toys right out of her hands and it pisses me off to no end. This past Christmas he was pointing his finger in my one-year-old nephew's face and scolding the baby because he had picked up one of HIS toys that he'd left on the floor. To say I was furious was an understatement. My boyfriend just yelled and threatened him but no real course of action was taken.
When I ask my BF why he just stands and yells, he says "I just feel bad for him sometimes." or "I feel like I don't get to see him much and Id hate to spend ALL of our time together enforcing discipline.
Recently I have been diagnosed with a true Anxiety disorder. I have panic attacks daily that have completely depleted my quality of life and I'm in the process of trying to get it all under control (seeing different doctors). This past weekend, my boyfriend had his son for an extended weekend, and my chest is still tight as a drum from the stress. The child had my family really frazzled as well over the holidays.
I told my boyfriend today that I can't take many more weekends like this in my current state of health. I told him that until he finds a way to make the child obey rules and respect me and my family, that I won't be coming around often on their weekends together. My boyfriend said he understood my frustration but that what I was saying was harsh. I told him my health and sanity is my number one priority right now and that's just the way it is. I could tell I hurt him pretty badly but I know in my heart that it was the right thing to say (and do!). It felt good letting him know where I stand on the matter.
I don't know what to do. Part of me is saying I can't do this, and that I don't WANT to do this... to put up with someone else's bratty headache. Another part of me really loves my boyfriend and I know that he's been the best partner ever towards me. I am so conflicted, and I'm supposed to be avoiding stress as much as possible right now.
Can anyone please advise me on what to do next?
You've got a Disney Dad on
You've got a Disney Dad on your hands. He is doing this child no favors by not disciplining him. Life does not work that way and people do not want to be around selfish, bossy and misbehaving children. They do not thrive. Worse, they don't have the skills to leave the nest when they become adults. Also, if the child knew there would be consequences there would be far less disciplining in the long run.
How great a partner can he be for you if he is choosing to allow a 5 year old to be rude to you and disrespect you? I think it's great your setting boundaries. His feelings are hurt? Aren't yours when the child acts like a brat, mouths off to you & he does nothing? I think it's perfectly acceptable to not spend time with a child who is rude and disrespectful & that's before your health concerns are taken into account. Take care of yourself first. Let the rest fall where it may. Best of luck.
Yup, years of being able to
Yup, years of being able to have the upper hand against you will ultimately put you further and further down the ladder of respect.
Been there, done that.
The problem isn't the son,
The problem isn't the son, it's the man.
Your BF refuses to parent his child and uses excuses for his laziness. This is never going to change and if you stay with him, your health will continue to deteriorate.
Thankfully you do not live with him and you have been smart enough not to have any kids with him (Hint. If he's a shitty parent to his 5 year old, he will be a shitty, permissive parent to any kids you have with him).
End the relationship and move on. However, if you choose to stay with him......
1. Stop bringing them to your family dinners. Take them off the guest list tout-de-suite.
2. Limit your time with him during skid weekends. Spending only a few hours here and a few hours there with the two of them.
3. Double up on birth control. You do not want to get pregnant by this man.
4. Understand he is not a good boyfriend. He is lazy and is looking for someone to raise his kid for him on his weekends. A scapegoat if you will, so he he looks like the good guy while you're enforcing the rules.
Bottom line, this will not end well the longer you drag it out. The kid is your BFs son and will always be a part of his life. So you have to decide if the stress of the kid is worth being around the BF.
Sorry to hear you are having
Sorry to hear you are having to put up with this; I agree this is a Disney Dad situation and you may never get him to see the damage he is doing to the entire family. I know from personal experience that your disorder will only get worse, and I wonder how much of it is tied to the ss?
Allow me to give you a glimpse of your future with this little bully, should you decide to stay... I'm sitting here in my room alone, trying to avoid the house full of noisy Skids and their SOs (who appear to hate me as much as the skids do). They seem hell bent on making me as miserable as possible... for which I am eternally grateful as I also have the flu. Having hubby go upstairs and just asking them to close the door, not to STFU mind you, just close the door, has prompted an endless parade of the noisy twits going up and down the stairs, yelling and laughing at the top of their lungs. That'll teach me to get in the way of their fun, I guess.
I finally gave up and retreated to the bedroom so I could have some peace and quiet, but can STILL hear them, ACROSS the house AND upstairs. The funniest thing (and I say that tongue-in-cheek) is that there is a bathroom upstairs but they are coming all the way down to use the one outside my bedroom door. They are making sure to stomp their little feet as they walk by, too. Priceless! I guess they want to make sure I don't escape them entirely.
I so much want to go up there and tell them what I think of them, that they're nothing but bullies and self-centered a-holes, but I know that it will only make me look worse than I already do in their eyes. Before I escaped the bedroom, my husband was sullen and distant from me because I can't take the noise (splitting headache, anyone?) emanating from his pack of little angels and he can read it in my body language.
Do yourself a favor - take care of yourself FIRST; your BF isn't, and probably won't. He won't ever understand how painful it is for you, or why you have these feelings. He is so busy feeling guilty for his own mistakes he thinks he is preventing another one. Take it from me, all the sacrifices you make, all the cheeks you turn, all the times you try just a little bit harder to be the adult, it will never be appreciated. I know it's a bit hypocritical of me to say "leave" when I've done the opposite, but had I known then what I know now... I probably wouldn't be here right now.
Don't end up like me, an emotional prisoner in my own home, ready to cry because I have a house full of entitled, self-centered brats who could care less about my needs or wants. I love my husband with all my heart - he is a different guy when not catering to these people, but the anxiety never goes away.
Whoops, double post!
Whoops, double post!
I need to copy and paste my
I need to copy and paste my stock answer to this post that seems to appear every 2 months or so. *sigh* Ok, here goes: your man, who is "loving" "kind" , and "there for you" is a beyond shitty parent who is raising a monster. It'll only get much, much worse. You will NEVER win this war. It's a shame, I've seen a lot of women on here leave due to lazy parenting, who do these men think will keep them warm when they are old???? Good luck and God bless, whatever you decide.
I would say get out, fast.
I would say get out, fast. There will always be someone else to fall in love with. I know that sounds harsh. If I had known what I was in store for when I met my DH, I would have never called him back. Don't get me wrong, I love DH, but I had no clue the misery his kids and ex would bring to my life and my kids life.
You have a glimpse into your
You have a glimpse into your life that I wish I'd had. I didn't, they were on their best behavior, now they are feral animals.
LEAVE, seriously. He's only 5 and it will get so much worse. Not to mention the EX drama that will ensue.
This is a nightmare that you
This is a nightmare that you are never going to wake up from unless you let him go.
He has made it clear that he is not interested in disciplining his son and he is not all that concerned about YOU and how this is affecting you and your health. It will get much worse.
sometimes he gets him for extended weekends or other random days if his bio mother decides she wants to get rid of him for awhile.
What happens when BM wants to get rid of him for more than awhile?
It's been less than a year, he's shown you who he is (which is NOT "the best partner ever"),
cut your losses and move on. You will be much better for it.
Wow, thank you all SO much
Wow, thank you all SO much for your feedback! I can't tell you what it means to me. I've not really had any proper way to vent, because in my life I don't know who I can trust and who is just being biased (either because they have kids of their own and their partner had to accept them, or they love kids but can't have any, that kind of thing) Also, it goes without saying that my family is growing quite concerned, especially with the anxiety issues at hand.
Anyway, a little update. I haven't been able to reply on here these past couple days because I've been down again. I tried to return to work after a brief hiatus and ended up in the emergency room due to overwhelming panic attacks accompanied by rapid heartbeat. It was terrifying. Needless to say, I have to take a little more time off work to truly get to the bottom of what is going on with me. There is no room for this child in my life under the current circumstances.
As far as my boyfriend, when the child isn't around, it feels like its truly just the two of us. There's not a thing he wouldn't do for me, everyday he tells me that I mean the world to him and that I'm the most beautiful person in the world in his eyes (I know I know, you probably want to gag now lol) But what I'm getting at is he is good as gold to me on any other day. He's even initiated the idea of marriage and moving in together on several occasions, to which I keep telling him I'm not ready. I'd be lying if I didn't say that the child is the biggest reason why I'm not ready.
He and I really do have a good relationship outside of the child. It's very loving and understanding. And he always keeps me laughing. That's why this is so hard.
I agree with all of you saying that he is disregarding my feelings and my anxiety issue when he lets the brat get away with everything. In fact, the more I think about it, the more pissed off I get. I could have elaborated a little more here -- When he says he "feels sorry for him sometimes", he thinks the child goes without at home (like no special treats, limited attention, etc), because he has 4 other siblings there! So, in BF's mind, he has to overcompensate for the child to be happy and feel loved. Which is still bullshit lol.
It makes me so angry and sad that I've finally found a guy who is everything I could ever need in a partner, yet he comes with a child who infuriates the living hell out of me.
I agree that the ball is in his court. I could stick around long enough to see if anything changes, but how much would I be able to see if I'm keeping my distance from him and the kid for awhile? Hmmm... I don't know how to handle that one. All I know is I most certainly am keeping my distance.
IF he were to get full custody of the child in any near future, I would leave the relationship in an instant.
Can anyone offer me a story of hope? Lol. As in, another woman who had to leave a wonderful (almost perfect) man because of his demon child and then went on to find true happiness anyway? OR a similar situation that actually turned around and all was well again?
Beating my head on the wall here.
It makes me so angry and sad
It makes me so angry and sad that I've finally found a guy who is everything I could ever need in a partner, yet he comes with a child who infuriates the living hell out of me.
There is always a possibility he will have his child full time. If you stay and have a child WITH him, whose to say he won't father that child the same way??
But he isn't everything you
But he isn't everything you need, he ISN'T. His child is why you are in this boat with your health, I'd bet money on it, and it's only going to get much, much worse. I'm 50 and have been married 31 years (my SS is biologically my DH's nephew), so let me tell you something you don't know, really I'm trying to help you please listen: just about any couple can be "perfect" when no one else is around. It's how you deal with work, kids, sickness, hell, LIFE, that determines whether you're in it for the long haul. So many women on here got skids dumped on them full time before their honeymoon tan had faded - that could happen to you too. Too many variables, you probably know that too which is giving you anxiety as well.
"There's not a thing he
"There's not a thing he wouldn't do for me"
Except, apparently, actually parent his child.
*sigh* I get it. I do. You love the guy, he says stuff that makes you feel special, yada yada yada. Most of the time. When you've been with him 365 days, give or take.
The thing is, that "most of the time" is going to turn into "some of the time". Then "occasionally". And eventually you're looking back and can't remember the last time he actually did that sweet crap that used to make you feel special. Because that's wooing. And once he doesn't have to woo you - once he feels like he's got you - then what you're left with is the rest of it. Which you've already said isn't so great. Of course you like when he woos you! We all do. But the basis for the future is the OTHER STUFF. The nitty gritty, the hard stuff, like disciplining his child even when he feels bad about it because his kid is being rude to you or your family.
Don't base your ideas for your future together on the sweet talk. Base it instead on how he acts when things are HARD. So far, sounds like you need to throw this one back and keep looking.
Consider taking a different
Consider taking a different path for your life. NOT with this BF; not at this time. You sound young, still enmeshed with your own family of origin and resent his previous obligations. Disagree with some other posters ... I kinda think BF and his occasional son need someone with a better "fit."
Especially with anxiety issues ... you need to get yourself into a place where you do not have additional stress. Please do not ask a father to abandon his son and choose his GF.
Good luck
It's obvious you really love
It's obvious you really love your BF, so to suggest that you "just leave him" is unrealistic. If he's a good man that treats you well, and you guys have a good relationship, then I think there's hope (if not, at least the experience will be invaluable). Have you talked to your BF about your role, and what he's comfortable with as far as discipline? It takes a village.
I don't know how long your BF and the BM have been apart, but in my experience (i used to be a teacher) kids naturally don't want to be brats. There's usually something else going on..meaning, it's not personal.
Personally, i can understand that your BF feels guilty..whether it's right or not, it's how he truly feels..and it definitely doesn't justify his laissez-faire parenting style. But my opinion is that if he doesn't step up, especially when the child is with you and/or your family, then maybe you could. It doesn't have to be all dramatic or public, just a consequence like timeout (1 minute for every year they are old). Give a warning, "if you do xyz (take that toy, yell at nephew, etc), then xyz is going to happen (you'll go to timeout)", and FOLLOW THROUGH...but ONLY if your BF is okay with it. I have more to say about this, so if this is something that might work for you, let me know and I'll elaborate.
My last little suggestion is sometimes it helps to tell the child your behavior expectations BEFORE you get to your family's house using age-appropriate language, of course. If you set the bar, kids will usually try to meet it (a little incentive doesn't hurt either; ice cream, piece of candy, etc..hehe).
Hopefully this helps. Take care!
So she should bribe the kid
So she should bribe the kid to be good? :jawdrop: That's a slippery slope if ever I saw one.
Hold up here, so Indigo
Hold up here, so Indigo you're insinuating that my BF and his bratty ass son deserve better than me? Thanks, all things considered, that makes me feel real great. Not to mention, I have never and would never ask my BF to abandon his son. All I have asked is that he steps up to the plate by showing him who's really the boss here between the two of them. If he can't do that, then I think I'm the one who deserves better.
SuperSMof4, agreed that dad should tell him ahead of time what kind of behavior he expects in certain situations and always follow through with the discipline if expectations aren't met. Yes, I am young, but not too young. My family and I are close.
No way in hell would I ever bribe him with candy or ice cream. Hell, he sure didn't want to share his candy with me even though he had enough in his stocking from dad to split between 5 kids.
ALSO LET ME SAY THIS.... Just
ALSO LET ME SAY THIS.... Just like I told my BF.. there's not a thing in the world I wouldn't do for a child who is loving and respectful and at leasts shows that he cares whether or not I exist. Because I think i matter. I tried with this kid, really I did. I think the child is absolutely adorable and I wanted to be able to love and have a bond with him from day one. I ask him to give me a hug, sometimes he'll give me a little half-assed hug on the leg. He lets his aunt hold him in her lap and love on him, I've tried to get him to let me be the same way with him to which he's like "Nope!"
His dad DID bribe him with doughnuts in Walmart one day IF the child would let me pick him up and just hold him for a minute.