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mannin's picture

I've been raising my SS10 for 5.5 years and it's been hell to say the least. Most of it is because his dad, my husband, refuses to parent his kid.

My SS10 lies literally all the time to get out of homework, to get his way instead of earning things or privileges, and to get out of chores. He's extremely lazy and has been allowed to be since he was very little. My MIL would wait on him hand and foot and still does when he's at her place. He cuts corners on his chores and says "I forgot" every damn time I point something out.

When I have brought these issues up with my DH, he gets defensive and makes excuses for his son. When SS10 lies, it's a miscommunication on my part or I'm lying. There are no consequences for lying or laziness. I'm so sick of it. Recently, my DH tried telling me that laziness is just 'one of his personality traits.' When I told him laziness is a learnt behavior, not a personality trait, he came up with more excuses. My SS has told me I'm not allowed to help with homework per his dad because I do it wrong - although the corrections I tell him to make, his teacher agrees with me. My SS has told me his dad told him to just make things look clean so 'mom' won't complain. I have told my DH what my SS says and he tells me he didn't say these things to SS, yet he doesn't call SS out on it. So, I doubt my DH is having my back more often than not.

At this point, I only care because we have a son together (a toddler) and I'm pregnant with our daughter. I do not want my kids thinking these behaviors are ok and are allowed. My DH is firmer with our 2.5 year old than he is with his 10 year old. We are starting therapy soon because my DH is concerned that I've started disengaging. He doesn't want to do the parenting alone, but he hasn't supported me either. I have been specific in the ways I need to him to support me and he has yet to do these things. He throws me under the bus consistently in front of his kid. My SS10 doesn't respect me, but insists on calling me mom. I hate that he calls me 'mom' and want him to stop, but our last therapist said it would be psychologically damaging to SS since that's how he sees me.

Disengaging is easier said than done and I'm stuck on how to just not care how SS10 turns out. My DH has sole physical custody because the BM is unfit and two of her three kids were removed from her for abuse. I've been raising my SS this whole time. I do not deal with the BM at all to her disappointment. When I did deal with her, it blew up in my face.

I have 7+ more years with this kid and his bullshit unless I choose to leave with my kids - which has been on my mind a lot this past year. My DH and I have a great relationship except when it comes to his kid. Whenever we fight, it's about SS. I have been told I'm abusive for making my SS do chores and for giving consequences to his bad behaviors when I'm stuck with him most of the time. My SS chores are cleaning his own room, bathroom, doing his own laundry, showering regularly, other hygiene issues (he literally will not trim his nails, clean his ears, or brush his teeth, which he has braces, unless you tell him to do so), and he takes turns loading/unloading the dishwasher. His life really isn't hard.

The list of expectations for me as 'mom' is so long, I don't know where it ends. I'm always expected to change, compromise, and give in to SS. I don't give in and we have had numerous fights this year because of it. I'm tired of "he's a growing boy" bullshit. My DH has NO expectations of the BM, of himself, or his kid. As much as I don't want to break up my family, I feel like I might be forced to if therapy doesn't open DH's eyes.

My question is for those who disengaged, how do you get to the point that you don't care how the asshole stepkid turns out and be at peace with it?

SMBM2017's picture

I also struggle with DH not wanting to discipline or slow to discipline. My SS8 lies and is also has lazy tendencies. I agreed it is learned, not taught. He also forgets often, but he is also has ADD. The best advice I can give you is to continue teaching SS as you believe he should be taught. Giving up on a child can never be the right answer. I think therapy is a great step in the right direction for you to both understand one another parenting styles and the physiology behind them.

mannin's picture

Thank you for your response. I really appreciate it.

I'm not giving up, but a losing battle is a losing battle. When his bio parents don't care, it's not my responsibility to make up for that.

uofarkchick's picture

Have you ask yourself why you have chosen to procreate twice with someone that sucks at raising kids? I am not throwing stones, by the way. I had three with one of the laziest good for nothing "parents" I have ever met. Counseling for you wouldn't be a bad idea.
It sounds like this boy's mother is still in the picture somewhat so why would a therapist insist that he call you mom? That has to be confusing as hell for a kid.
Your husband doesn't want to parent alone? Well, he is the parent and if the mother isn't going to step up then he will have to parent alone. Not your kid, not your responsibility. Although I have to say that he's got a set on him to say he is expecting you to parent his spawn. Well, "parent" meaning all of the work and none of the authority. Gosh, who wouldn't want a gig like that?
Girl, you've got a lot on your plate. It sounds like you are just fed up and I think disengagement is going to be the only thing that saves your sanity.

mannin's picture

My DH parents our kid differently than he does his son.

My SS started calling me mom on his own and the therapist at the time told me I should let him continue to do so. During a session my SS told the therapist that he sees me as his mom and that he hates his BM. I've never asked him to call me mom. Even his pediatrician said I should let it continue for his well being.

My SS's BM is in the picture every other weekend, when she doesn't bail on him. She's been in and out of his life for at her convenience for years. By court order, he goes over there EOW and the BM tells him lying is ok, she doesn't make him flush the toilet, wipe his ass, or brush his teeth. He gets all the screen time he wants.

uofarkchick's picture

So he is a crappy parent to one kid but a good parent to the other? Sounds like a nightmare.
That's awful that your husband doesn't trust you and calls you a liar. And yet he wants you, a compulsive liar and bully (in his eyes), to raise his children?
He is getting an awesome deal. He doesn't have to raise his kids and he gets to boink the nanny and the maid.
He is the problem, hon, not his son. Don't get me wrong, his son sounds absolutely awful but your husband needs a good kick in the ass.

Steptococci's picture

Amen.
OP, this is so unfair to you.

DH has Guilty Dad Syndrome. He doesn't realize he's f*cking up his kid even more by depriving him of normal life skills- making excuses instead and legitimizing this child's incompetence. But he feels guilty that the BM is such as flake/disaster, he probably feels guilty for reproducing with her in the first place, and now he feels guilty because his other kid (soon to be two) has a normal mom and, for now, a better life.

I do think you need to disengage now- be kind to the kid, since he obviously loves you (calling you mom is a big deal if you ask me.) But stop disciplining, helping, caring- focus on your toddler and your pregnancy. If DH does not have your back then don't parent the skid at all. I don't think there's a magic trick for not caring how the skid turns out. You'll be ever more worried about it with another baby around too. You just have to realize you have too much on your plate, and DH's responsibility to relieve you of some of it.

surfchica's picture

I worry about the exact same thing....that the SD will not leave at 18....but that, among other things, is why my marriage is heading towards divorce.

trying1996's picture

I'm in a similar situation except we only have SS11 on weekends. I am new to this site and many people are encouraging me to disengage, so I'm going to give it my best shot! I can totally relate to what you said about caring how he turns out. I am in the same boat. My SS can be very sweet, but VERY immature. His parents do NOT do anything to encourage him to grow up. Just a short list of examples-he just started brushing his own teeth, he just started showering by himself, calls DH at least 50 times per visit to "come here"(and DH goes), asks DH to get him drinks and snacks every 10 minutes (and DH does), just learned to tie his own shoes, still asks to be picked up. I could go on. I have nieces and nephews who are 5 and 6 years younger than him and more independent than him.

SS told me he doesn't have many friends. When I asked him why he told me the kids make fun of him for being a baby. I told DH and he told me "those kids are jerks." Ok, maybe they are, but shouldn't DH and BM be teaching him how to behave like an 11 year old so he's not such an easy target?? I know people tell me to disengage on certain things, and I really am going to try, but I can't help but feel for him.

I wish you a lot of luck!!

CaliZ's picture

I'm in the same situation. SS 5.5, in my care 50% of the time. I have three older biological children. I treat him the same as everyone else, I just see these horrible bad habits, the same as I see in his BM and my DH. I try to just treat him as I do the other kids, and he seems happy and well-adjusted when my DH is not home. But the minute I leave him to care for his own son, all behavior, manners, everything else this kid has learned goes out the window. I am frustrated to no end. I am at the point where I am starting to disengage, but I feel like this is a disservice to the child. Both biological parents do not enforce behavior, manners, homework, anything like that. I don't know what else to do. I'm sorry for your situation, I know it sucks.