Casually texting his EX literally minutes before saying "I DO"!!!! Really?!?!?!
So picture this, me, him, his kids, my kids, on a cruise and heading to our beautiful beach destination wedding. Perfect right? Preparing ourselves on the morning of, loading the whole family up into the taxi to head for the beach. It was only about a 10 minute ride and then we where there! Everything was absolutely perfect!!! Couldn't have asked for a better ceremony! So Beautiful!
But when I find out a few hours later that he spent his taxi ride over there chatting it up with his bitter, hateful ex-wife...my heart sank. How could anything she had to say be even a little bit important at that moment? Couldn't he just put her off for an hour or two? He showed me the texts later and they were about nothing at all. Just chit chat! At 5 minutes before the ceremony she asked when "the lynching" was taking place, he responded "in 5 minutes" and at that point at least she had the decency to say "OH, I better let you go then!", but then of course followed it up with a "You know you’re making a huge mistake right?"
Is it crazy of me to feels as if this has darkened our special day? I feel as though I will forever be saddled with the knowledge that he felt it was perfectly fine to chit chat with his ex literally minutes before committing himself to me!
I feel like if we were on the Jerry Springer Show the entire audience would laugh me off stage telling me what a fool I was for marrying someone who is clearly still emotionally connected to his ex! AM I?
This has been and looks like it will continue to be a problem in our relationship. He puts no boundaries on her at all. She is free to text, call, chat it up - any time, any place, for any reason. And rarely ever is it regarding their children. (Maybe 20% to 25% of communication has to do with their kids) Mostly just chatting about stuff, when will she get her support check, her new relationships, her money problems, guilt trips on him for leaving, etc… Most of his leniency is out of guilt for the way he left her, but does it really have to cause friction in our relationship? Can he not understand how it hurts me? Does he not care that it hurts me? We have discussed this (their excessive and sometimes inappropriate communication) so many times I feel like a broken record. He gives no regard to how I feel about it.
And on our very wedding day no less, him continuing to pamper to her needs with no regard for my own, has left me feeling a little bit less than miserable. I love him dearly. And please understand that I DO NOT in any way want to cause friction between him and her, (I fully support peaceful & friendly co-parenting) but I need advice. I know boundaries need to be set, I just don’t have the words to get him to see it.
I think I would have been ok
I think I would have been ok until she asked about the "lynching" and telling him he is making a mistake. Idol chit chat doesn't really bother me, and I do so with my ex with no ill intentions on anyone. Although I didn't give him a single thought on my wedding day... But for her to be comfortable enough to refer to your wedding as a lynching and then tell him he is making a mistake, makes me believe that he is sharing information about your relationship with her. Which is completely WRONG. Did he respond to her comment about it being a mistake?
I don't see anything wrong
I don't see anything wrong with the idle chit chat in a taxi ride. He wasn't taking time away from you or your family.
They may not have as hateful a relationship as you thought.
I'd be more concerned that this bothers you and that you say he doesn't have boundaries and this is always an issue... why did you marry him then?
I agree with you on that. I
I agree with you on that. I forgot to address that.... after the "lynching" comment, he should have just ended it.
Seriously?? Idle chit
Seriously?? Idle chit chat???
The EX called it a lynching and the DH DID NOT SHUT HER DOWN....
Agree. Idle chit chat?
Agree. Idle chit chat? There is no way anyone would appreciate a soon-to-be husband communicating casually with ANY ex just before the wedding. I don't give a shit what they were "chatting" about...It's a matter of respect!!
Talking to an ex right before your wedding? That's a big time Foul!
You have every right to question that and be bothered by it!
Learn to read, StepAside. I
Learn to read, StepAside. I DO NOT regret marrying my DH.
I'm saying to the OP, if she had these serious concerns before marriage, why did she marry him before resolving them?
OP started the 4th paragraph
OP started the 4th paragraph with: "This has been and looks like it will continue to be a problem in our relationship. He puts no boundaries on her at all."
I don't get the impression this was a NEW issue that just happened to pop up 5 minutes before vow exchanges.
That being said, when we're on the verge of holy matrimony, we tend to be blinded to a lot of issues. Hindsight is 20/20.
Semantics,
Semantics, shemantics...you're telling me SAF is "contracting" herself?? Noooooooooo (sarcasm) LOL.
so what is it about your life
so what is it about your life that makes you so hateful and miserable? did it ever occur to you that spewing hate to the posters on this board is NOT going to fix what is wrong with you? you might feel better for a minute for purging a little hate from your soul, but when you go back to your real life, the problems are still there. and given your nasty attitude to EVERYONE, i'd bet the problem is YOU.
Exactly,Its about DH sticking
Exactly,Its about DH sticking up for what you have together and not allowing anyone else to disrespect it.He should have opened a can of whoop-ass on her,not just gone along with it.
You are exactly right
You are exactly right peaches. He needs to defend his wife, not trample all over her. In this case in particular, but NOT standing up for his new relationship, he is in fact tearing it down himself and giving others the go-ahead to do the same. He has given his ex a free pass to get all up in their business and make a mess of things. This guy is a real peice of work and will ruin this relationship just as he ruined his last one.
He never should have been
He never should have been texting ANY other woman right before his wedding. Much less the ex. What a dummy.
I don't know what type of
I don't know what type of advice to give other than possibly asking your new husband, maybe how he would've felt had it been YOU texting your ex just prior to marrying him? Maybe turn the tables a bit? Sometimes guys can't see how much their behavior affects others until they're put in the same position.
And no, you're not wrong to think that this was out of line and inappropriate of him to do! I could see if there was an issue with the kids but that's not the case. The ONLY contact the two of them need to have now is concerning the children. He's not married to her anymore, there doesn't need to be any chit chat, much less moments before or after your wedding ceremony.
Just my opinion...
~Mel
Let me tell you that if
Let me tell you that if Snaggletooth said anything remotely derogatory about me or our relationship he'd shut her down instantly. The ONE time it happened he shut her down so effectively she has barely has said my name in 2 years.. }:)
I agree with Red WingsFan- turn the tables and see what happens.
He should NOT be texting
He should NOT be texting BM...EVER unless it has to do with the skids ONLY!!! Your new DH is rude, disrespectful, insensitive, and inappropriate...period!!!
That chapter of his life is OVER and the ONLY reason that chapter need be addressed is IF it has to do with the children as a result of that relationship.
Sounds like he is having his cake and eating it too if you ask me....he gets the wife at home and gets to yuck it up with BM saying whatever/whenever!!!
If this bs doesnt change I see you in for a life of misery and being a second class citizen to this wench...
Exactly! I had to listen to
Exactly!
I had to listen to my DH talk about some woman at work who was making dinner for a bunch of guys and bringing it in once a week (they worked 2nd shift). Now this little thing was like 20 years old and doing this for a bunch of 40-something year old men. You can probably imagine the warm fuzzies all of those guys were getting.
I finally told DH that what he was telling me was wrong on so many levels, let alone gross and pathetic. He didn't see the problem, she was just making dinner for all of them....
Until I started talking about some young thing (guy) at work who was gushing over my new sports car.
I think you made a mistake
I think you made a mistake marrying him, and I think you know that.
This is NOT going to get better. She knows she has control over him, and this incident only made it worse.
How long has this guy been
How long has this guy been divorced? Are you kidding? If my DH was talking to his ex at ANYTIME during our wedding day or before or talking to her about OUR wedding, I would have lost it. Sorry, but he has NO BOUNDARIES with his ex. If they want to be buddies, then he should have stayed with her. Pathetic. What an AHOLE.
Not very smart on his part, I
Not very smart on his part, I don't think there's any woman really who likes their man talking (chit chat) to their. He should had defended you after the comments she made.
What an ass. It is not too
What an ass. It is not too late to get it annulled...I would, he clearly is not over his ex.
Thank you for all of your
Thank you for all of your comments and advise. In answer to your questions,
No, he said nothing in regards to her comment about the "lynching". He simply answered her question with the time. (which btw - I feel is none of her damn business) He never does correct her or ask her to stop when she slams me or refers to me in a derogatory manor.
No, he did not respond back to her when she said he was making a mistake. But then again, the wedding was starting...he didn't have time to comment back!
I think StepAside hit the nail right on the head!!! You have no idea how right you are! He is constantly craving the attentions and compliments of other women! And I have to hear about e v e r y s i n g l e look, stare, sideways glance, every comment, every suggestions...well, absolutely anything at all that may possibly involve the attentions of another woman. Now I do understand that he has lived with insecurities for a long time. A very long, hopeless, loveless marriage, overweight and not feeling very attractive, he made many changes when he left his ex, became a body builder and looks amazing now, so I can understand him reveling in the new attention. But when it gets to the point where it is becoming a major threat to our relationship, it needs to stop! ESPECIALLY when it involves his ex wife!
I have made it perfectly clear how I feel about his relationship with his ex, the games she plays with him, and the meddling she does in our relationship. Bottom line seems to be that he cares more to stroke his own ego than to even bother considering how anything affects me.
If he doesn't knock it off,
If he doesn't knock it off, he'll be alone with his ego strokes.
^^^^^^^^^^^yup^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^yup^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
---->He is constantly craving
---->He is constantly craving the attentions and compliments of other women! And I have to hear about e v e r y s i n g l e look, stare, sideways glance, every comment, every suggestions...well, absolutely anything at all that may possibly involve the attentions of another woman.
Oh My GOSH... this was my ex. Even when men would walk by and look at ME, he would claim they were checking him out!!!!???!!! So strange, and I never understood it. You know what I did understand? That my marriage was OVER when I caught him with another woman... just sayin.
WOW! This guy really needs
WOW! This guy really needs some help! Sick bastard to do that to you on your wedding day!
I would never treat my wife
I would never treat my wife this way, and I don't know any man that would. This man either has issues of not understanding was is acceptable or respectable, or he still has feelings for his ex. There is no excuse for a man to make his woman feel inferior to any other woman. In my opinion, most men these days are lacking in the area of building up their wives and making them feel special and loved. A top reason for the high divorce rates if you ask me. This man has not only made you to feel second to his ex, but second to all of the other women he craves attention from. He does not treat you or your feelings with respect and therefore is not worthy of your love. You need to seek marriage counseling before it gets worse and you can't stomach his behavior any more.
That is so sad newwife3. Some
That is so sad newwife3. Some men really have no idea how to treat a woman. Feeling or no feelings, some things in the deepest crevices of our hearts should never be revealed if they leave the ones we love in hurt. That is something he can never take back no matter how long you are together and no matter how good he treats you now. Just like the tool texting his ex on his wedding day, it cannot be undone and she will forever look back on their wedding day with sadness in her heart.
Well you got a lot of advice.
Well you got a lot of advice. Did any of them tell you to tell him your feelings?
In any event I suspect he's addicted to his electronic devices. If you can confirm that then I'd say its as much that as anything. He'll text her as she's probably just as addicted and willing to play the game.
This isn't going to go away so I think you better get used to it. Consider texting your ex a lot and see how he likes it. Or "just some guy from work".
Remember ex sex is best.
Ex sex is best? WTH? Who told
Ex sex is best? WTH? Who told you that?
Ex sex? Ewwww!!! The
Ex sex? Ewwww!!! The thought makes me shudder beyond control.
I can vouch for that not being fact. Maybe the pizza affects the part of the brain that processes common sense. I thought I wanted one, but now I'm thinking twice...
What ass would even be thinking about his ex 10 minutes before his wedding?
I will stop searching the
I will stop searching the internet for a pizza hat for you. We can't have you thinking like this!!
LOL! Yeah, with the 11-year
LOL! Yeah, with the 11-year old crotch-glancing & ex sex, I don't think I'm pizza hat material.
--->Remember ex sex is
--->Remember ex sex is best.
I just threw up on my desk. Ex sex is not only NOT the best, it is NOT an option. Effing sick. :sick:
Sorry, not meaning to be a
Sorry, not meaning to be a creeper or anything, but I went back and read through a post you made months ago. Honey, why did you marry this guy? How much do you know about his past relationship? Did he really leave her or did she leave him? I get the part about being an ego maniac, but this sounds pretty bad. It sounds to me like he is really hung up on his ex. It's either that or he is one really sick man.
Here are a few things you may or may not realize is going on here:
1 - She is in complete control of their relationship AND yours! And she knows it! She knows exactly what she is doing and is doing it well. She is underminding you in every way possible and what is worse is that he is allowing it. He is not defending your honor, he is not standing up for you as his chosen love, he isn't even bothering to ask that she treat you with dignity as a human being, let alone his wife and stepmother to their children! He is shouting loud and clear that he does not respect you enough to stand up for you so why should she! This will forever cause stress and tention in your marriage. This alone is enough to bring down a good marriage.
2 - By allowing her to have this control (and insight into yours and his relationship), he is inadvertantly letting her know that she is just as or even more important than you, she comes first, and you will just have to deal with it. You know and she knows that she is loving every minute of it! SHE is the first wife, SHE is the mother of their children, SHE has his friendship, and he will be at HER becon call whenever she waves her finger. These are all victories for her and losses for you. AND your own husband is the one putting the victories in her hand and stealing them away from you! If you don't feel it yet, you soon will and it will bring torment to your life.
3 - Feeling "second best" and in constant competition with his ex will start to wear you down and eventually make you withdraw. Your love and admiration for him will slowly fade and you and he both will feel loneliness.
4 - His desperate need for constant admiration from other women, and he need to rub it in your face when he gets it is just plain sick. I understand the whole self esteem issues, but this is too much. If he cannot find satisfaction with you and the love and attention you give him, then why did HE marry YOU? His ego trip will be the ruin of his own self and you will suffer right along with him if it doesn't get fixed now! Maybe it was his ego and his need for the attentions of other women that caused his other marriage to fail? I know I would not put up with it! Not for one minute!
5 - There is another issue that his attention whoring bring about. Every woman know when a man is pleased with her attentions, she know by the blush in his cheeks or the grin on his face, or maybe even by his shy reactions. Whatever the case, a woman knows. I am sure you have experienced this yourself. If this happens often enough with women either at his workplace or elsewhere, these women who know that he is flattered by their attentions will start to think (or maybe Know) that he is unhappy in his marriage. This opens him up to preying women. This also leave you vunerable. And should you ever have to be in their pressence, the tention will be great, whether you know who they are or not, you will feel the humiliation! I feeling I am sure you are already experienced in dealing with this man. Be prepared to feel it over and over and stronger each passing day.
He is not a good man to treat you this way. No woman should have to go thru this. YOU are his wife and he needs to respect YOU! He needs to put you first! Period. Communication with the ex needs to be at a minimum and he most definately needs to put his foot down, grow some balls and put her in her place. AND HER PLACE IS HIS EX-WIFE NOT HIS CURRENT WIFE! He cannot have two women. He must chose. Today! NOW!
I fear this will end badly. Is it too late to get an annullment?
Maybe this wasn't such a good
Maybe this wasn't such a good idea. I feel like total shit now. I just want to die....
For some reason what you
For some reason what you typed plus the look on the cats face in your pic go perfectly together.It just really sets off your words.
Aaaaanywho.....
Dont feel that way.If you guys love each other there IS hope.
When I first got with my BF I was unaware that he was still chasing his ex (one night stand,town whore,game-playing bitch).I only found out after he would pick a stupid fight with me to meet up with her cause she was his "best friend" and he or she needed to talk.Also some inapropriate txts.
Even if they dont have any intentions of being together its still emotional cheating.Mine denied the hell out of it for a year.When I told him I was done and made plans to move he finaly took his head out of his ass and saw her for the trick she is.
What I want you to know is that theres hope.If he really loves you,if he really wants to,he WILL eventualy get it and stop.
You just have to keep letting him know that it hurts you and that its wrong.It may not be cheating per se but its wrong BECAUSE it hurts you.
Let him know you will walk and be prepared to do so if it comes down to it.I hope it doesnt because Ive been there and I know exactly what youre going though.
Chin up Girl,you will be fine.
Is this for real? This guy is
Is this for real? This guy is a fucking JOKE! His stupid ass needs to grow some balls and PICK A WOMAN! It's HER or it's YOU! NOT BOTH! I bet shes laughing her ass off at you tha YOUR new husband was chattin it up with HER minutes before your wedding!!!! I know you know that and it makes you feel like a total idiot! I'm with ya sister, I read ya loud and clear! How dare he do that to you! She is the very last person on the planet he should have been talking to on that day!!! AND SHE KNOWS IT TOO! That was a test on her end and he failed miserably!! She know now where he stands with you and if she ever doubted before she doesn't anymore.....SHE WILL ALWAYS COME FIRST!
This guy has not a single drop of dignity in his whole body! He is low life trash and will NEVER give you the respect you deserve! GET OUT NOW! OMG, what an fucking ASS!
You guys are harsh. Of course
You guys are harsh. Of course I don't know this guy from Adam, but I can't imagine anyone trying to hurt his new bride that way. I think it is simply a matter of this guy just being really stupid. I think he has no idea how much he has hurt her, doesn't understand why it would hurt her, and thinks it's no big deal. I had a similar (not quite this bad) issue with my second wife and I just couldn't see it. The difference between me and this man is that when my wife approached me about it and I realized what a problem it was for her, I corrected it immediately. I want nothing more than for my wife to be happy, content and secure in the love I give her. I am her lover, friend and protector, not partners with her enemies. I don't question that this man wants the same for his wife, I just think he doesn't know how. He really just sounds too stupid to even see the damage he is doing. Probably a little selfish, self-centered, unaware or ignorant of human feelings and emotions, but probably not as mean and evil as you all are making him out to be. I'm sure he loves her or he wouldn't have married her. He is just really, really stupid.
Why would anyone want to stay
Why would anyone want to stay married to someone who's really, really stupid?
You may have something there.
You may have something there. He does sound pretty stupid! :?
And yea, who the hell wants to be stuck with stupid for the rest of her life?
Can't fix stupid! Sorry
Can't fix stupid! Sorry
NO MA'AM! To me this a clear
NO MA'AM! To me this a clear sign that you are going to have a bumpy road ahead of you if he does not change!
So this is the same tool that
So this is the same tool that is calling and chatting with his ex every morning on him commut to work? Damn girl, I'll be watching for your next post....about your innullment. Seen a lot of shit on here, but this guy takes the cake. Jackass of the Year!
AGREED 100% And the trophy
AGREED 100% And the trophy goes to....
1FunMama's tool of a DH - JACKASS OF THE YEAR! :jawdrop:
Agreed! Maybe we could give
Agreed!
Maybe we could give him a pair of balls to go along with that trophy! Hahahaha!