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OurFamilyWIzard .. thoughts?

SMof2Girls's picture

BM is suggesting DH and her purchase a subscription to this site (www.ourfamilywizard.com).

I'm not sure if anyone else uses this or not, but I wanted to get some insight. It's basically a means to document the custody calendar and communication, as well as expenses, etc.

She thinks that will help them with co-parenting. I'm VERY skeptical. She can't consistently communicate in email (always texts or calls on a whim when she wants something). She refuses to put anything she verbally agrees to in writing. Why is this site going to change anything?

Subscription for one year per parent is $99 .. seems like a $100 app for her iphone to me.

Anyone else here use it? Does it work well for you?

SMof2Girls's picture

Exactly! I'm not sure how some online software helps that at all .. I've read a few reviews and they all basically say it's a communication tool, and doesn't offer anything you couldn't do with other resources (Excel, shared calendars, etc).

But I'm wondering if maybe because you pay for it, and it's explicitly related to custody only, if it helps facilitate better communication?

I just don't see BM keeping up with it (or DH for that matter). She'll be all gung-ho to get it set up and adding all the information in the calendar, etc; but when it comes to issues or wanting to switch days, I have little faith she will not still resort to her same back-handed shady ways ..

SMof2Girls's picture

Couldn't we achieve the same thing by emailing pictures to her though? Their custody calendar is not very difficult, and from what I understand, this site requires you to enter in each date specifically (can't just select "every other weekend" options, etc). It does nothing to build a better parenting/custody plan, just documents the one you already have.

I'm just not sure I see the value in it .. seems like glorified email to me. She thinks it will make things easier, but I don't find email to be particularly difficult ..

SMof2Girls's picture

Yeah it's a neat software, but it also requires people who are willing to log in and use it.

That's the problem I foresee .. BM has demonstrated time and again that she is incapable of regular email communication. When she wants something, she calls and texts. DH has tried and tried to get her to email, but it usually goes like this:

Standard text convo --
BM: Can I talk to you about [insert whatever issue here]?
DH: Shoot me an email, I'm at work and I'll respond when I get time.
BM: Why can't you just talk to me like a normal person?
DH doesn't answer.
BM: What the fuck is your problem? I'm their MOTHER and I have a right to talk to their DAD when I want to.
DH doesn't answer.
BM proceeds with another half dozen texts detailing out her requests.
DH doesn't answer.

When he gets home from work, he logs into email, summarizes what she asks for and proposes a solution and/or gives a reply. He's usually willing to compromise when her requests aren't unreasonable, and when she comes to him first (ie, doesn't just make whatever plans and THEN "lets him know" after the fact).

If she gets what she wants, she'll respond with a text. If she doesn't, she will respond with a text.

So you see, I'm just not sure how a software, no matter how neat, changes her BEHAVIOR.

Tranquility's picture

Do step-parents have an option to sign their schedules up too? Monday-manis, padis, Tuesday- martinis with GFs, Sat, Sun, beach time- do not bother me with shuffling your offspring around haha. Just kidding. If their schedules are complicated, then I would give it a try. If not, sounds like an unnecessary expense. You can always do it through Google for free-they have a joint calendar type thing.

SMof2Girls's picture

Their schedules are not difficult at all. They both work set shifts at work, with some potential for overtime (which you can't really schedule in anyway because it's always last-minute).

However, for the summer, the girls are with us full time all summer. BM has been stationed in TX for school, so the girls will be moving there in the fall for one school semester. Then back to MD for the spring semester. (Stupid, I know, but also out of my hands).

I would totally fill the calendar with my own appointments if I had any :/ .. outside of work, it's mostly skids and puppies for me

SMof2Girls's picture

I agree. I'm not saying NEVER, but I don't see this being the "quick fix" she seems to think it will be.

Prove to DH you can communicate, in writing, regularly for .. let's say 1 month. Otherwise, no dice.

Unless of course she's willing to foot the bill, in which case we'd gladly use it. However, I don't see that happening EVER.

Still Have Hope's picture

My DH used Microsoft Excel spreadsheets to document all aspects of custody and finances with BM. He would send her email attachments with quarterly updates. Excel came on our computer so it didn't cost a thing.

SMof2Girls's picture

There's a discount if you buy two years up front .. like $179/parent for 2 years instead of $99/one year.

I guess the goal, too, is to not NEED this software for the rest of their time as minors. I would think eventually, after successfully use, they would decide it was no longer necessary.

I definitely do not see that happening with those two in the next year or two though.

IAmALady77's picture

I read somewhere that the perk was that everything on the site is admissable in court whereas it can be hard to get emails and texts admitted...so I guess if you needed proof of her being unreasonable and not cooperating on a regular basis it could be a good thing..

SMof2Girls's picture

Yeah it'd be nice, but she just wouldn't document any of that stuff. It would end up being our own personal notes in there documenting everything. Or her fighting/disagreeing with everything we email to her.

Same exact thing we have in email now, only more expensive.

Crazy_in_Ohio's picture

The court told Horsehead and SO to use Our Family Wizard because it is admissable in court for both sides since they are incapable of being civil and communicating with each other - but Horsehead wouldn't agree to it unless my SO purchased her a computer, paid her monthly internet fee and paid the subscription until the children graduated from high school.

I'm sure you know how that went.... Smile

smartone's picture

If at least one parent is willing to use it, at the very least it is a tool to bring to court. "I am documenting everything, co-parenting, but bm is refusing to participate..." It's sort of a tool to document who is doing what rather than he said, she said. Regarding bm's unwilling to use it bc they don't have a computer, there is always the library.

But for two parents who need to share everything but don't want to talk, it's a great tool. I use google calendar for my ex to know what the kids are doing/when. But one has to LOOK at the calendar to use it...

SMof2Girls's picture

This is precisely my issue .. I'm sure it's a great tool. But BM currently does not respond to emails. DH emails her regular updates regarding school, activities, etc. and she responds every single time with a text or phone call. His attempts to put boundaries in place and prevent her constant calling and texting was resorting to putting everything email, but she is just oblivious.

Her best attempts at email are her raging rants trying to accuse DH of this, that, and the other. She even claims that because it's in email, it's admissable in court. It's a nightmare.

So my whole issue is .. what's good in a documentation/communication tool if you've never demonstrated an ability to do either?