BM drama and now I'm questioning everything..
Please please read all this!
I posted on here before about the BM. But quickly let me brief you. I've been dating my boyfriend for 4 yrs. I just recently in the past year got introduced to his 3 daughters. He sees his kids maybe once or twice a month. Never met the BM and figured I have no reason to meet her anyway! She lives an hour away with the kids. I had my suspicions about him and her possibly messing around because of all the texts back and forth and random texts from him that would say, "So am I gonna get a big hug next time I see you?" Just really weird texts. Me and my boyfriend got engaged back in April. I'm holding off on planning the wedding for two reasons, 1. Because we're tight on money and, 2. I want to make sure things in our relationship were calm and secure. Two very good reasons. I finally opened my mouth about the two of them texting way too much. 200 texts in a week = ridiculous. I told him I didn't like it, he agreed. A few weeks ago after him not responding to texts or phone calls he ends up telling her, "It's not fair to my fiance that I talk to my ex this much." She says she won't call him back. On Halloween, my fiance went trick or treating with his kids and ex around their neighborhood. I decided not to go because I didn't really feel like meeting her - seemed pointless. She said to him when he was texting, "I thought SHE didn't like it when you text other people." He says, "I'm texting her." And goes back to texting me. She also asked when we were getting married. Like I said we have no plans yet. He tells me every time they're together she is constantly asking him for money even though she works, gets CS and 700 SSI from their one daughter and lives rent free with her mom. She's more loaded than him. It's sick but since we don't live together at the moment I'm not complaining.
Ok. Now that you're up to date. Here's the drama that I'm completely and utterly confused over. We're at my place playing video games.. Yes, I know 30 something year olds chillin' playing video games. It was Monopoly though!! haha. She starts calling, he ignores the call. She calls again, he ignores the call. She texts saying something like she's calling from the houseline and she had to tell him something important and to answer. He says no. She calls him, he ignores her. She texts him again and says, "You never had a problem talking to other girls when WE were in the same room! Answer!" He says no. (She was a big alcoholic and controlling then he cheated on her. After all that the marriage was over.) She calls two more times - ignored two more times. On the next call, even though we were playing a game, I said nicely, "Just answer cause she's gonna keep calling and it's getting annoying." He answers. To sum up the conversation: She was talking odd, like not making sense on the phone, he kept saying what is wrong with you? Are you OK? I told him I'd go in the other room to allow them to talk (while I listen of course) and he said I didn't have to but I did anyway. She starts asking why he was getting married. He said I support him in everything he does yadda yadda yadda and that he moved on and loves me. I heard him says, "You called to tell me you love me still and want to work things out? No. We weren't good together I remember what it was like. No." So she pretty much called to tell him she loved him. This woman doesn't swear at all. After they got off the phone the texts start coming. She was saying F this F that and he says to me she's pissed! I go on facebook and now I have a message from the BM, someone I never met before. She was such a bitch in how she worded everything. Asking me if me and my fiance were in an open relationship. Telling me she had "pictures" of him he sent her and they slept together, that she divorced him because he's a cheater and one girl just gets too boring for him. She said every trip me and fiance went on her and the kids were always asked first and that he could care less if he were engaged. I let him read it. He never tried to deny the sex.. just a roll of his eyes and a shake of his head. I wait till the morning to reply. I was so polite and thanked her for bringing it to my attention and that I always encourage him to spend more time with his kids. I should've just blocked her and ignored it maybe. She goes on to tell me how sorry she was to tell me all this because she knows how much he loves me and that maybe he'll start being faithful to me. SHe said she let her emotions get the best of her. I'm like WTF?? She also said I seem like GOOD QUALITY!? What the hell, am I a cow now or something? GRADE A? hahaha. So I asked her when and where this all happened. She said his place and his brothers place. I asked her to describe his place since I was told she was never there only to realize his kids have been there before and they could easily tell her what his place looks like. She describe it fairly well. I'm wondering if it really happened. She messages me on facebook and says ok, he told me to lie and tell you it never happened.. I guess I was just BORED. I'm feeling so confused and maybe hurt. I check out the texts between them two and she's going on about how they had sex and she's sorry she told me but now would be a good time for him to show me how much he loves and needs me. It was as though she made this huge scene and got us fighting, trust me we argued bad over this, and now she's trying to be nice to him. She did a 360! I'm reading this crap thinking what is going on. He's saying back to her that, "You're psycho. You call me to tell me you love me and I tell you I moved on and now you tell my future wife all these lies. stay the f**k out of my relationship." She told him he has no reason to be mad at her. He said, "It's fair to be angry at you. You have no right talking to my future wife and telling her lies to break us up other than to try adn get me back cause you're hurt that I'm happy with the love of my life." Her response, "Oh come on, someone who "wanted you back" would be fighting for you, not encouraging your relationship." She previously said how the kids like me and that I seemed very nice and polite in all the messages. Then SHE says this, "Remember I have a ton of texts and pics and I know you do too. I know you two will get back together, but in the meantime, I'm single and will have sex with you." His response was, "Go f**k yourself and leave me alone." Throughout the whole conversation she never said once they didn't have sex but he was denying it to her.
I don't know what to think. I sorta believe him I sorta believe her because I did have a suspicion in the past. There are some crazy people out there. A few years ago I had a guy flip out on me cause I told his GF that I think he was messing around with someone (stupid me!) So he said me and him messed around when it never happened, I never even met him either, and he told my boyfriend we had sex. So I know people can say things just to screw with you.
She's still calling him today and saying stuff about how she now fears for her life since he's mad at her. Say what?!? Weirdo! He ignored all her calls and texts so she called his work to get a hold of him.
Should I accept that this was all a lie and go forward with our relationship? All of this happened yesterday and the day before.. and today my boyfriend asks me to move in with him.. That kinda took me for a turn. I mean we've talked about many times in the past 3 months but for him to ask it now? Hm.
What do you guys think?
Whoa! Because of the fact
Whoa!
Because of the fact that she's still calling him and now saying things about being afraid for her life makes me think she's crazy. On the other hand, I also find it weird how well they get along... and 200 texts a week?? That's a tough one. I would defintely be suspicious. I guess you have to decide for yourself if you want to agree to move past it and not let it affect your future. If it were me I would demand his honesty (because if he claims he loves you, you at the very least deserve his honesty), and decide where to go from there. I would also agree NO MORE TEXTS AND PERSONAL PHONE CALLS from BM!! That's just downright disrespectful when you're in a relationship. If it doesn't have anything to do with the kids, there's no reason for it.
In the end you need to use your own judgement and decide how worth it it is to you to live with this for the rest of your life.... cuz I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but BMs don't go away
Good luck!
I was once with a guy whose
I was once with a guy whose BM was CRAZY!!! I mean crazier than the one I have now. I know, why did I get involved AGAIN with a guy with kids but I honestly believed her brand of crazy was one of a kind. So anyway, she would call me at work and talk shit about them being together and onw time she broke into his apartment while we were there because he wouldn't open the door. At one point she offered to three way call him to get him to admit to everything without knowing I was on the line. I stupidly told him about it, I think because I didn't want to admit that it was try and I was giving him an out. I had just broken up with my first very serious bf, we had been together for years and I was devastated so I just jumped into a relationship w him for no reason. Serious rebound! Anyway, it finally all exploded and he confessed to having slept with her and I can't say I was shocked or devastated but I did feel stupid. I don't suggest plotting w her for a three way call because if you are at the point in your relationship where you guys are engaged, there should be some trust there but I will say that it is a bit shady that he never denied it to you and I don't know about these "texts" but that seems a bit fishy too. Go with you gut and do what you have to to get your peace of mind back.
Too much drama. Run.
Too much drama. Run.
That's a tough one. I will
That's a tough one. I will tell you this though. I had my suspicions about my husband and BM when we were first dating. At the time we weren't serious but were still seeing each other. We did end up getting serious later down the line and 4 years later he asked me to marry him. I was the happiest person in the world. After I announced it to the world, he decided he had something to tell me. That at the beginning of our relationship, he slept with BM. And of course she got pregnant. He had basically hidden a 4 year old child from me our entire relationship. I should have run but I stayed and even though we are happy now and have worked through it, I still resent him for it and have severe trust issues to the point where I go through his emails, texts, car, etc to assure myself that its not happening again.
Here's my point, a woman's intuition is usually right. There is no way to prove it did not happen and you will always have that doubt in your mind. I wish I was strong enough at the time to walk away from my f'd up situation because I have to live with this daily. Every time I see that poor child I think about DH's betrayal. I used to be a secure and confident woman and now I panic every time DH goes to drop off the skids and doesn't answer the phone. Don't let this be you.
the_stepmonster, that's
the_stepmonster, that's exactly how I've felt for a while now. Snooping every chance I get. And it is hell. I told him last night that when he decided against not telling me things that is makes everything seem so much more suspicious. Like I had no idea he stopped at the mall while his kids shopped like 2 months ago to give her money for his kids to get winter coats. Right now since I have very little trust for him I need to know everything. I mean, hell, he tells me every other little detail about his day, why not about the BM? He doesn't get that though.. He thinks it's better for him to lie or withhold details so it looks like they never talk or never see each other. I mean he'll even delete texts that are LITERALLY about the kids so it looks as though they never talk..
the_stepmoster no words.
the_stepmoster :jawdrop: no words.
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that part where he said he didn't mess around with her. Sorry! He did end up telling me yesterday when everything got even more crazy that he didn't sleep with her and the reason she knew what his apartment looked like is because when she came to pick up the kids she came in and "checked out the place". She was supposed to pick up the kids at his work, not his apartment. And the reason he never told me about all this was because he didn't want me getting suspicious since he knows I have issues with her. I told him you NOT telling me makes it even more suspicious.
"Because of the fact that she's still calling him and now saying things about being afraid for her life makes me think she's crazy." -- I know! A little drama queen with looney tendencies lol. I think it's weird as hell that she tells me all this stuff then says, "He really wants to be with you and I think you two should stay together." Really? C'mon.
"OMG, I needed a drink after
"OMG, I needed a drink after reading your post."
haha. Well to be honest, I actually had a several drinks during all the dang frustrating crap! I think that was the only thing that stopped me from flipping out on the BM. Surprisingly..
You said not to marry him. Well, now you see why I said I had two reasons for holding off on the wedding - One of them was to make sure everything between us was secure. It's not very secure..
"Can you imagine your BF
"Can you imagine your BF putting up with YOUR ex behaving like that? You and your ex texting 200 times a week and telling your BF crap like that?"
You know, I sometimes wish i DID have kids with an ex to show him what it feels like to be on the other side. But I don't have kids at all.. damn! Oh, he'd be mad.. definitely.
Yeah, she has no right in hell saying anything about how we should stay together even if they did have sex. Screwed up part was after all the Facebook messages she sent me I wrote this huge message saying how screwed up she was and she has no right telling me or my fiance what we should do, I was trying to tell her off, ya know she ends up blocking me on facebook before I could send it. I was thoroughly ticked off!!
Slow down. This doesn not
Slow down. This doesn not sound like something you want to rush into. She may be lying, she may not. Give it time to die down. Don't feed the drama with him or her. If you want this relationship to work, don't move in until you are sure he is not or has not lied to you.
Three words....RUN LIKE
Three words....RUN LIKE HELL!!!!
Why would you want to be
Why would you want to be w/someone you have to snoop on? Way to much work. Find someone you can trust.Without trust there is no marriage, no relationship, no engagement.
It seems that they are
It seems that they are accustomed to playing these little games with each other. Something about all of this sounds fishy however, you have to do what's best for you and in the end, follow your instincts.