BM accusing me of causing harm
So my BM has said all sort of things, going from accusing DH of being a bad dad, said she is going to ruin his "perfect little life" with me, won't let him see kids until she gets more money, *repeatedly*. But now she has crossed the line. On Monday she called DH fuming and questioned him to what SD did this weekend as she now has a bruise on her back and a scratch on her arm, although it didn't help that SD made a comment about "keeping secrets" but regardless... then said "I do not want them around ANYONE but me and you do you hear me" and DH said "She wasn't with anyone else and nothing happened", and this is when she goes "She was with (me) when she took her swimming". Big bad step mum taking SD out swimming HOW DARE SHE BE SO EVIL!.
Anyways i have instantly reacted, how dare she even think it let alone say it out loud that i would cause harm to her. A child let alone my step child. Regardless how toxic BM is and how much we have been having issues DH and i have had about parenting each other kids I adore them. He knows this too, and he went mental at her which she then admitted she went a bit over the top and jumped first instead of asking SD questions which after 5 minutes SD said she hurt her back on the gymnastic bar that BM got her and BMs dog scratched her.
Now this is were my issue with DH is. After years of abuse from her, accusations, bullying the lot. He always puts up with it the routine is a few days of dry texting or ignoring and then it all goes back to usual form. She has no repercussions of what she says and never takes responsibility. So i said to him i am not having it anymore, i am not standing by and letting her hurt him or me anymore she has crossed the line. I told him i do not want either of us in her house anymore, this dropping kids off can easily be done to let kids walk in themselves (they are 8 and 14 ), they also both have phones so no need for all this contact from her now either (which has slowed down to be fair since SD having a phone). He completely agreed and says he is on my side and he thinks he needs to make a stand a draw the line too.
This happened on Monday, he has said nothing to her about our discussions, kept asking me how i was feeling and i told him that i feel angry hurt and guilty, guilty for not wanting to hurt his relationship with the kids of course but also angry at her always getting away with hurting everyone around her, she's the reason we cannot have a civil relationship. But also angry that he has still not even mentioned anything to her, now he says he will tell her in person on Wed (Today) because he is taking kids out after work, i know for a fact he won't argue with her Infront of kids so i said to him yesterday why don't you message her because then it isn't in front of the kids. He didn't even do that either. So now, she is going to know it has all come from me and but my main concern is that he doesnt have my back. He never stands up to her, he will argue and argue but after a few days nothing gets sorted. I am now at my end, i have put up with a hell of a lot and don't think i can handle this anymore. So when he is due back from taking them out and if he tells me he hasn't said anything, then that will be it for us.
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A lot of these maladjusted
A lot of these maladjusted men will not stand up to their miserable ex wives because they're scared of what might happen (the nut job taking the kids away and lying causing PAS).
These fears sometimes are not real but sometimes they are and could be resolved by hiring lawyers but that is expensive for most people
They know if they stand up (as they should) they might risk losing a relationship with their kid (if manipulative mother is CP) especially if the kid doesn't have a car and can't make decisions well (ex. screw my crazy mother I'm still driving to your house this weekend dad)
It sucks and you have to decide "is this something you want to deal with the rest of your life"
the nutjob literally said she will destroy your cozy life with him and doesn't want you around her kid. She meant that. She will make things difficult for the next 18+ years. she probably is miserable and has nothing better to do than plot and scheme to get her way.
This is exactly how this dude over here's ex wife is. miserable breeders with no life using the kids at manipulation tools because that's all they have. Can't use their looks or p*ssy to get their way so they use the innocent kids who have no clue and can't stand up to these c*nts either.
You're already married and (IMO) in traditional marriages the wife/marriage comes first then the couple leads the kids then the extended family.
When a man puts his marriage first he will not be controlled remotely by his previous marriage/wife. That's why he divorced.
The choice you have is to
thank you
Thanks for your reply. Do you know i actually was thinking about this, if i was mad enough to sue her for damages (which i wont do but just as an example) i bet i would get more grief of DH than she would for implying it in the first place.
I am honestly considering number to the fullest because too much has been said and done and i just don't know if i can continue
I am a little confused..
I am a little confused.. because didn't you say he went mental at her over the accusation ..and she walked it back? so didn't he have your back there?
I get not wanting to go into her home.. but it also feels like that doesn't necessarily have to be a huge conversation with his EX either.. can't he just walk them to the door.. let them go in? if BM tries to talk to him.. he can just stay outside?
It sounds like she is high conflict.. and he isn't looking for reasons to cause more.. so maybe just doing what you suggest.. vs talking about it with her (where she will argue about it).. is best anyway?
Unless she lives in a very dangerous area.. if you or he are able to watch the kids walk to her door. should be fine to just start letting that happen..
Sorry, a bit more information...
He "said" he went mental at her, i wasnt there, and i guess in that respect he defended me to her but this is too big a thing to just shout about then go "oh my bad" and leave it at that.
Also with her the converstaion 100% needs to happen. Repeatedly. She would argue and threaten the kids will never be at ours again one day then 2 days later have the cheek to ask him to paint her kitchen. It was when he stopped doing these things for her she became even worse. Her attitude is "Your kids live here so you should do it".
So him doing something and him letting her know why we are doing it needs to be aired, She argued with him a few weeks ago and told him "Do not come and get the kids after work because that is MY time", 2 days later he messages (while saying to me "watch her start now" and asks to pick them up to take them for something to eat and she says "Yeh of course i would never stop that".
He just left it at that, and maybe i am wrong but i honestly believe that he should be calling her our on her bullshit and then maybe this won't keep happening week after week.
It sounds like she runs hot
It sounds like she runs hot and cold.. depending on her mood or needs .. she can be reasonable.. or very NOT reasonable. All the more reason for him to engage with her sparinglly and go by the CO as much as possible (I hope they have one).
As far as the accusation.. I'm just going to put it out there that as a mother who saw bruises and scratches on her child.. and then child acts cagey about it.. a parent is going to question those other people that have access and control of her child. It seems that your SO defended against any accusation.. and that it ultimately was resolved and figured out.
The result of this should likely be two fold.
1. It does no good for him to constantly revisit this same issue with her.. it happened.. he pushed back.. it was resolved.. and he can quietly go about drop offs without going in her house (though.. going into the house to get the kids has ZERO to do with what happened..)
2. This may be a wake up call for you to be less available to help with the kids.. and you may want to insist that you are not alone with them.. ie no running to the pool because of the risk to you of accusations. I mean it's up to you... but you put yourself in a position of being accused when you are with them alone.. you might want to reconsider how you help your DH with the kids going forward.
Again.. he needs a consistent custody order so that time is planned.. it sounds like maybe he is wanting to do occasional after schools.etc.. and she may not always (as she has indicated).. appreciate him interfering in her custody tiime. So.. they have a set schedule.. they stick to it.. makes things a lot simpler.
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I completely agree with the seeing bruises on your child, but she didn't bring her boyfriends name, or the fact she has family members and friends and SS friends in the house daily. It was only my name that was brought up and this is our issue. Also if we were to question every bruise when we get her we would never be off the phone. She is the clumsiest child out and like her mum she bruises easily. So this was 100% completely uncalled for it could have been handled a better way and our main issue as well she didnt ask SD straight away, she noticed it, called him then accused me then asked her then called him abck to say aw i jumped the gun a bit it was the gymnastic pole and the dog. The "keeping secret" comment was that morning.
Unfortunately i have already mentioned about number 2 above, i do not feel comfortable being alone with them but that is DH biggest problem though because of his shifts and my ability to either work at home or the office, it is easier during holiday time but now there is a massive spanner in the works because she will still cause problems about us not having the kids half the time even though she is the one that has caused this.
Our BM used to be similar. I
Our BM used to be similar. I say "used to be" because DH put a stop to it over and over again until she finally fizzled out. She used to email DH lengthy "report card" emails with everything he did wrong during his parenting time - SS had too much sugar, SS stayed up too late, SS did an activity she doesn't approve of, SS was with any family member that she didn't like, etc. Of course, these standards only applied to us, but never to BM, as she often broke her own rules.
DH constantly repeated that it wasn't her business, which would send her through the roof, but he would ignore her. When we took BM to court in 2019 for her crap, the judge told her that it was none of her business. She tried to argue with the judge and the judge shut her down. That was the end of it.
Your DH needs to simply put her in her place each and every time she has a "complaint" and ignore any blow up that arises after. The only way to stop the behavior is to stop giving BM the supply and attention she so desperately wants.
This is what i need
This is exactly what we need to do. But the fear of him not seeing the kids again is what makes him give in each and everytime. Now even although i say to him that she has repeatedly threatened that he will never see kids but will message 2 days later saying "When are you picking them up", it still doesnt sit with him.
But ihonestly do believe that accusing me of physical abuse is too much of a thing to "forget about".
Can i also make this clear that i have been the only woman introduced in their lives in 3 and half year but BM is now onto the 5th BF introduced to them. Last BF left because he didnt like SS yet she still tries to make us the problem.
The abuse accusation was
The abuse accusation was resolved... he defended his home (including you).. the truth was discovered.. and at this point.. he becomes a full drama participant to keep trying to bring it up..
And.. you don't have to forget about the accusation.. stop being alone with his kids.. stop doing him favors.
and.. he needs to just see his kids on his custody time and if he doesn't have official time.. he needs to go to court and get it.
I get she is frustrating... and that she doesn't live a perfect life.. but he just needs to shut down control during his custod time.. tel her it's none of her business... and if you aren't caring for the kids.. he can 100% inform her you could not be abusing them if it comes up again.
Once they accuse you of being
Once they accuse you of being physically abusive .... refuse to be one-on-one with the kid to protect yourself.
There is a poster on here that said her SD called CPS on her accusing her of abuse she didn't do.
Relationships are hard to come back from when people make false accusations.
At the ages of 8 and 14
They should be walking by themselves to and back from DH car. There is no need of communication between. BM and DH. And in this case it should be done by texting. So there's a physical record of what was said.
'You must step back.. Stop taking SK anyplace by yourself. BM doesn't like that you are trying to be a mother to her kids. You are adding gas to the fire.
DH should be taking his kids, it's his time to be with them. Not dumping them off on you. If he can't take care of his kids ,then they should stay with BM..
'DH should stop communicating with BM about anything except the kids. At 14 he can text her on things like " I'm outside" 'we are going to. Fair, so dress. Warm". Thus not getting BM involved.'
SD can text BM with things like " we will be home at 5". " we are going out fir pizza, so we will not need dinner tonight" Not getting DH involved
If he can't take care of his
Agreed.
This dude over here kept trying to get me to be his FREE live in nanny. I accepted it at first - trying to be nice but When I realized the con game (their mother was jealous she wasn't priority, hated my existence, and didn't want any woman around her kids. I was nothing more than a glorified babysitter for the dude ) I refused.
I've been accused of being jealous of those kids and their mother said she didn't want another woman besides her around her kids.
Cool.
Don't ever leave those kids in my presence when you aren't available. I'm not about to help y'all / babysit / be responsible for your kids especially after those comments.
Id suggest you do the same. Do not be responsible/ babysit kids when their bioparent doesn't want that. Let the bio parents do the work.
Dude FINALLY got a clue and for his birthday when he knew he would have multiple hours unavailable....he rightfully sent those kids back to their breeder. My nannying/babysitting rate is more than her child support so he might as well.
I agree. Why does DH have to
I agree. Why does DH have to go inside BM's house and have conversations at every drop-off? I also agree that communication should be kept to only what is necessary. It will give BM less opportunity for bullshit.
If this guy was doing "honey-do" chores for BM before OP came into the picture, and only quit because OP "made" him, something tells me he may have been exaggerating when he told OP he "went mental" on BM. This guy is still trying to play both sides.
$5 says there is no CO, or if there is, it isn't followed. I bet he picks the kids up when BM calls and asks him to.
ETA isn't this the guy who is moving out of OP's house to live closer to BM because BM "can't control the kids?" What exactly is his plan for when he lives closer to BM? To be able to come running over every time she calls? This is bullshit OP. I don't blame you for being upset.
No formal CO with outlined
No formal CO with outlined custody schedules are nightmares for step-parents
This means he has to converse with her more and negotiate with her.
If the dude is in fear of ex wife running into court to sue him for money or running off with the kids.....he's essentially relegated to the ex-wife's demands (which a co with parenting schedules would eliminate a lot of the unnecessary communication / manipulation tactics with the ex wife)
Before i got to this site, i
Before i got to this site, i didn't think joint custody without a schedule was even allowed. Apparently people have kids and just do whatever feels good at the time, for the parents anyway. It can't be good for the kids.
Usually caused by biodad
Thinking if things aren't "formal" "in writing" "legal" that HCGUBM will "play fair" (TM) with him and ALLOW him access to his (read: her) children liberally and at any time.
Chef fell into the same trap. It was a nightmare. Nothing could be planned/scheduled.
You are giving me flashbacks
((((((Shudder))))))
i don't see any reason why he
i don't see any reason why he has to go in with them either.. but I don't think he has to make some official pronouncement that he is not doing this any more as some punishment for her accusation against his GF. He just needs to move forward with his own process.. stop going in.. call for the kids to come outside.. or knock on the door and wait on the porch for the kids.. etc..
BUT.. I have a feeling he will be back to being "mr beck and call" to his EX once he moves out of OP's house.. and back closer to BM.
Honestly.. OP needs to see this huge red flag.. he is moving AWAY from her.. away from their relationship.. away from her ability to monitor what he does (aka.. do stuff as the celibate husband of his ex).
I don't think he intends or wants to be with his EX.. but I have a feeling he wants to not be monitored or pushed by OP either.
Again.. if you don't want to go in her house.. don't. if you dont' want your SO to go in her house.. tell him that is what you want.. There is zero point of drumming up drama by saying that you are doing this because she accused you.. jumped to a conclusion without the facts.. all it will do is create more reason for her and your SO to communicate.. I would just do.. not discuss.
Thank you
He does need to mention it to her because she will then think that it is his problem why he doesn't want to go in and think she done nothing wrong, this woman has accused us of all sorts and made so many threats when things don't go her way. He always abides because unfortunately she has the ability to withdraw access until we get a lawyer which is a lengthy process as it is. He doesnt like not being able to see them.
I can confirm that I don't tell him what to do ever, just like he wouldn't tell me what to do. I suppose i worded this wrongly when i first posted, what it was meant to mean like for him to stop saying all this to her without going through with it. She caused a massive fight last weekend for no reason had the biggest attitude and because we dropped the kids off 10 minutes earlier (because traffic was flowing). So he said from now he will wait outside if he is ever early and he's never stepping foot in the house again, he has said this a few times but never goes through with it. So after this that is when I said to him about not going in because its about time she gets told basically that she has taken it too far.
This is exactly what it was
This is exactly what it was like, they werent together but she would phone and demand he take kids to school or pick them up, causing him to be late for work or have to leave early because she would refuse, randomly would phone and say kids want to stay with you he would go get them. Which is far enough they are both the parents, But she cannot handle day to day things alone, like taking the kids to school, SS attendance is under 30% she has now got the welfar office involved, because he doesnt wake up, now as a mum if my kid tries this he either gets a bedtime or gets pads and phones off so that he goes to bed, or gets up at a reasonable time, she allows him to stay up all night and sleep all day missing school, will phone DH to phone SS even though she is in the house .SD is under 80% because if she wakes up after 8:15 "there is no point evenm trying to get her ready because she will go in a mood" so she keeps her off. May i add she hasnt worked a day in her life, she could easily do all this but refuses.
Wow. She has been spoiled
Wow. She has been spoiled and coddled. Total bullsh*t.
she would phone and demand he
Sounds like a typical trifling BM breeder
That last sentence is troubling because she has the capability to care for her child but refuses because she knows dad will drop everything and come to the rescue.
This is a manipulation tactic to keep the kids front and center (so the dad has no life outside of 24/7 child rearing) while she is freed up to do whatever
Remember when she said she was going to ruin your cozy life with him?.....This is one of the major ways she's using the children to do just that.
Unfortunately the only way to correct this is to have bio dad have a very stern conversation with her or call CPS on her (which means you gaining full custody).
Breeders playing the "I can't take care of my kids so I'm running a B*tch Beck n Call service" will absolutely shape up if the laws show up to their door step or the child support money they live off of is revoked
The dirty little secret is
That the longer skid sees dad suck his thumb around the almighty BM, the faster skid (and SM) loses respect for dad which excelerates the skid PASing out.
The Girhippo in my case did the same thing right out of the HCGUBM playbook. I refused to be around the 3 ferals alone bc Chef would take the Gir's/skid's word for things over mine after she repeatedly lied to him and he knew it.
Never felt so stupid
After reading all of your comments i have honestly never felt so stupid.
We aren't married
They were never married either
And there is no official court order (although plenty threats of one)
I have had their kids more during the school holidays than they both did because they would half the time meaning when he worked i was at home with them. *dash1*
I have 100% taken that step back. We both wanted this blended family but it has just been issue after issue and never going to work when BM is as invilved.
Also yes this is the guy moving back to their city so that SS can move in with him, he can control him better and will make sure he is at school. This was also a discussion because i said i would not stand to be a "3rd wheel" in my relationship so all the things he used to do still won't happen. This isnt all just because i have said stop, i dont control him either. I have expressed my opinion and concerns and basically when he thinks out loud he will say to me "Im not doing it im not her bitch" but then feel guilted into doing it for the kids. So this is why over the last year or so he has become more adament not to do a thing to help her. This has just drawn the line though.
My main issue with him is he will say "im not answering her calls anymore i want texts so its proof" then when she calls he answers. "im not going in her house after her crap" lasted 2 days. He will voice all this stuff to me but wont actually go ahead with it,
You aren't stupid. You
You aren't stupid. You trusted that the man you loved would make good decisions and you tried hard to be a good stepmom. Until you see it for yourself, you don't know that people can live this way. You don't recognize red flags because you don't have any experience with what they are warning you about. You assume that the person starting a relationship with you has done the work necessary to actually start a good relationship. Doesn't sound like this one has and it's a miserable painful road trying to do that work for a man or force him to do it himself.
Thanks
Thank you, I see these parents who co parent with new spouses so well and i am honestly like "How?" , we tried, at the start we used to go out for birthday meals together etc we did try, until me and DH got more serious thats when all these issues started.
If you raise their kids while
If you raise their kids while they're at work (and you're not being compensated in some manner) you're being used as a free babysitter/live in nanny!
This is just my opinion
Guess what happens when there is no formal custody schedule? The kids and BM will dictate the schedule.
Blended families are HARD and have higher failure rates than nuclear families. Most often because one or both of the bioparents has maladaptive parenting/co-parenting style.
BTW
He will have boundaries for a day or two then go back to his old ways because 1. Old habits die hard 2. He caught in the middle and if he has to chose between upsetting you vs upsetting his kids/HCBM - which do you think he's going to chose?
You are not stupid at all. Though your SO most certainly is.
Put your foot up his ass to get a CO.... NOW. Then make sure he has the testicular fortitude to beat the snot out of BM with a rolled up copy of the CO any time she interferes in his COd time and rights. Zero tolerance works.
IF for no other reason than to protect his relationship with you and defend himself and you from his poor choice in breeding partners and in keeping their PASd toxic spawn under control while demonstrating what a confident man, father, and quality parner are.
Good luck.
I didn’t read all the
I didn’t read all the comments, but I agree with whoever said that this doesn't have to be a whole conversation. Your BM craves attention and your DH gives her what she needs. She shouls be completely ignored unless it's about the childrens' health or education.
Calling about bs, messaging, conversations during pick up and drop off - put your foot down and tell him no more. Calling her out will not do anything good, it will only create more drama and more of BM needing to clear things out with your DH.
When I moved in with my husband, the BM wasn't high conflict, but used to literally text/call about everything. She just couldn't let go of her first lady status. It was "Don't forget to vote today", "A kindle was stolen from my unlocked car, should I call the police", "How do I open a new bank account on my name?", "Do you know any free notaries?", "Do you have extra bread at your house?", "Ss is getting a new this and that", Please change the oil on my car", "Please fix the leaking sink/toilet", "There was a bobcat near our house, are they dangerous?" etc etc. I wanted to scream - Lady piss off!!!
It all stopped after she refused to let husband's son go visit his grandparents, because "they will cause emotional harm to him". Umm what?! My husband was furious and decided he wasn't her handyman anymore. He waited until she called him that her car needed service to tell her that she can take it to the shop. She was so wrapped up in herself, she couldn't believe her ears. She cried that it wasn't fair to her LOL
Then it didn't serve to be friendly anymore and showed her true self. She wasn't miss nice anymore and took every chance to passively aggressively remind that she was the only one to make decisions about their son. I had enough of all the unnecessary communication and I put my foot down. After all, my husband kept to his word and ignored all bs messages and calls. All communication went through email and it was only about health and education. Period. He never had that conversation with her about it, he just ignored her for as long as it took her to get the message. Of course she became so petty, she'd email receipts for literally $1.99 requesting reimbursements for prescriptions. All her emails(about once a week) became money claims. That's how miserable she is. I feel sorry for her and the sad life she’s living.
If your husband wants to take his children out for lunch, he should communicate that with them. Same with pick up and drop off times. His children are old enough to figure that out by themselves or with their BM, no need of your DH to do it through mommy. As for you - you shouldn't be alone with the children. Have your grown ass husband figure it out. Same as if he was single or if you weren't working from home - that's something the parents have to figure out. Remove yourself as much as you can. Your husband is way too much involved in the BMs drama, I agree that he is the actual problem.
By the way his fears soon or later will come true - he will end up with damaged relationship with his children. But that shouldn't be on you. Don't you ever feel guilty.
Best of luck and hugs.
Your husband's journey from
Your husband's journey from ex enmeshment to animosity is nearly identical to my SO's. I told him i would not be a sister wife, and he sort of halfheartedly started setting boundaries but it took BM actually pissing him off by being greedy over money to cause him to actually set boundaries. And when he did, she went from sweet ex wife who does her best but needs him to help with everything to demon-possessed woman out of The Exorcist. The end result, however, was strict following of the CO and communication only by text and for necessities.
Great, right? Yes, it is, and it's a main reason i haven't left. But....every so often the feeling creeps up on me that he only set boundaries because she pissed HIM off, not to be able to start a new relationships fresh. The anger at what he wanted me to put up with never truly goes away. Guys who would live their lives messy like this (enmeshed with ex/new relationship that they don't protect/letting the kids live with chaos) have a defect. Idk if it's selfishness or lack of boundaries or liking drama, but it's a big checkmark in the negative column.
As far as communicating with the ex on when to spend time with the kids - a CO negates most of this. You go to dinner with them on your custody time. Idk how old the kids are in this OP's situation, but if they are teens, direct communication with them is good but the pressure shouldn't be on the kids to decide when they are at each parent's house. I feel like that gives kids not only too much power but also too much stress and responsibility.
I agree and I also think a
I agree and I also think a lot of this enmenshment has to do with simple habits. In their case they were together for 20+ years and they didn't fight during their divorce - my husband peacefully left everything to her and moved out with a bag of clothes. She liked pretending to be the sweet ex wife and to keep him close so he can keep doing everything for her. For him it was the guilt because he was scared of losing relationship with his son and also he thought that whatever he was doing for BM, it was for the sake of son. When I met him they were still doing everything like a family, only he now had his own place. I wasn't going to be a sister wife too and yes, I went through a lot of pain because of feeling such.
Last summer the AC in her house broke and she didn't fix it for MONTHS. She wanted someone to fix it for free. Yeah, right. I guess she couldn't find a volunteer and had her son tell dad a million times that it's soooo hot in the house. My husband shared with me that he's feeling guilty he isnt going to fix it because his son has to live there in the heat. See my point? They know how to pull those guilt strings and he takes the blame for not running to save his son, instead of actually being pissed off that BM is so miserly, she won't hire a person to get the job done. At the end of the summer my brother in law came to visit and went to fix it. I just can't with these people...
Recently the AC of her car broke and again his son kept calling my husband (mind that he never calls otherwise) asking how to fix it bacause it's unbearable to ride in the heat.
I know for a fact that if it weren't for me, husband would fly to do any job they need over there - for the sake of this poor almost 20 yrs old baby. And I don't like it and yes, it's a check in the negative column. He has said that I have to be in his shoes to understand why he feels the way he feels. No, mister, I don't want to be in your shoes neither I'll ever be, because I raised an independent individual who will never guilt trip me.
He missed a MASSIVE
He missed a MASSIVE opportunity there! The RIGHT answer to his son's complaint about the heat waa, " that's a pity son, but you can come and live with me if it's too hot over there." I guarantee BM would have found a repair man PDQ!
He actually told him that he
He actually told him that he's welcome to come and stay with us. Same when their washer broke and poor son ran out of clean clothes. Of course he declined the offer.
Can you believe that we have zero contact with BM and last time son was at our place was 5 years ago and last time husband met him was 1 year ago - he doesn't want to be part of the family, we have no relationship with him whatsoever, yet, we always know when something breaks in BMs house LOL
Oh drat. So the kid was in on
Oh drat. So the kid was in on the manipulation too?
If the son is almost 20, wtf
If the son is almost 20, wtf is HE doing to help with all this?! Unless the son is special needs, both he and BM are pathetic!
Had a similar situation where
Had a similar situation where this dude here walked in to the breeders house and saw an electricity cutoff notice bill she (I think intentionally) left on the table
Thought he'd feel guilty his "poor kids" would suffer with no power that she allegedly couldn't afford.
I said
1. quit going inside of her house
2. She has a job and part of being a responsible adult when you have kids means paying your essential bills
3. If she can't afford her essentials then let her apply for welfare, suck some d*cks, or - better yet - get a better job
None of it is your job to fix and rescue your able bodied ex
Our BM has never had an
Our BM has never had an actual full time job, but she mastered on how to leech on her elderly mother, welfare, some long list of other sponsorships and support (I assume government, but who knows), and of course - my husband. She is very against of her son getting a job as well, so during school breaks he just lies around copying from mom how to live on taxpayers and people hard earned money.
My husband missed so much from an actual relationship with his alienated son, that he can't comprehend that his son is a man now, not a baby. His son used to hung up on him and not talk to him for weeks and months, now they haven't seen each other in a year. My husband seems to so desperately crave attention from his son, that he would literally jump off a cliff if that would make his son look his direction. And BM and son know it very well.
He's not thinking straight.
He's not thinking straight. She threatens to stop him seeing the kids? Yet she dumps them on him when she needs time for herself? He needs to take the wind out of her sails and say no the next couple of times or so to let her know that she needs him and so CANNOT stop him from seeing his kids. He has to take back his power and stop being a grovelling doormat. Have you told him what a turnoff it is when he grovels? That every time he caters to her you lose a bit more respect for him and that your supply of respect is limited? If not, you should.
BM has never worked? How
BM has never worked? How does she support herself? Is he going to be giving her money when child support ends? This woman can't support herself, does nothing yet can't even get her kids to school. She's going to be a lifelong burden.
Baby daddy and daddy
Baby daddy and daddy government i'm guessing.
OP
OP
About BM accusing you.
Do yourself a big favor.....Never, ever find yourself alone with dh's and bm's child. Not in a car, not in the house, not at a playground, not at a store. NO where.
Thumper is right! They accused you once, they will do it again.
Thumper is right! They accused you once, they will do it again. I don't care how unconvienent it might be, you should never be alone with that child again.
Immediatly have your attorney send her a cease-and-desist order
Then immediatley file a defamation suit. Drown BM in her toxic shit while giving the SKid the full facts and full visitibility of how toxic BM is and how much pain BM's crap will result in BM experiencing.
Zero tolerance for this crap.
Set the example of viable adulthood and a solid adult relationship for SD. Then execute scorched Earth against BM for any crap she perpetrates. Do this whether your DH agrees or not. BM is targeting you. Take her out with the full arsenal of financial, legal, and social weapons at your disposal.
IMHO of course.