Lost my shit tonight regarding SD11
Tonight I lost it. Totally lost it.
If anyone has seen any of my blogs about my SD11 you'll know how frustrated I've been over the past 3 years with her behavior.
Lazy. No Effort. Bad Grades. Bad Hygeine. Self-Centered. Cries about everything. No responsibilities. Deep co-decency on dad- dad struggles to punish her/stick to boundaries.
Last week her school emailed to let mom and dad know she's failing her classes and had about 15 missing assignments.
A "talk" was had with her by DH. He "grounded" her but I was seeing inconsistency in his punishment. I brought it up today and it turned into an explosive fight.
I just wanted to leave. I want to leave in this moment. I'm just so pissed. I was mean and didn't hold back. Probably meaner than I should have been but the frustration has been so built up, I just lost it. I couldn't help it.
At the end of it I told him he could just have his mini-wife and live happily ever after with her, she can flunk out of school, college and every job she ever has and they can just live together the rest of his life and she can live her whole life never being upset or uncomfortable with "daddy."Told him I'm sick of being the only one that cares and wants to make changes that will change the course of her life so she can be a functioning adult when she's not even MY child. I told him I'm just going to disengage and let her be his mess to deal with and left it at that.
We haven't spoke the rest of the night.
I'm so upset guys. I don't know what to do.
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This wouldn’t fly with me. I have 2 kids with hubby
And he assured me the toxic cycle of dysfunction with skids ended with the divorce and would not continue into our household and with our kids
so years ago when the pathetic excuses came, I reminded hubby of that promise he made me and since sd's especially have shown they have no respect or regards for healthy boundaries and to be functioning independent members of society, i will not expose my kids to their toxicity and i refuse to allow their dysfunction, laziness etc affect our household and finances at the expense of raising our 2 young kids
hubby still struggles with cutting off eldest sd monthly allowance despite her being in fulltime employment since over 4 yrs ago because bio mum whom they hold in high regard even now disowned and abandoned them like she did ss, so eldest sd cares for younger sd with money she claims bio mum gave which is hubbys ca money but hubby suspects she isn't giving all the money but the argument isn't worth it. Hubby assured me the gravy train will emd early 2025 when he retires and skids are on their own financially as all will be adults
Thank you.
Thank you for relating to me and validating the way I feel. I'm sorry you've always had to struggle with this over the years also.
My S/O has admitted to overcompensating because he feels bad that he and mom are divorced and mom has been emotionally distant with SD for parts of her life and he and I have had conversations about how unhealthy this is.
He agrees but it's actually DOING something about it that seems to stop him in his tracks.
I also asked my DH last night- what point is it going to end for you when she inevitably grows up and can't take care of herself? Will she be 28 living in our home with no job, no education, no responsibilities? 25? 26? 35?
Good for you for setting boundaries and not allowing it to affect your children. I do not have any bio kids with DH but do want a child. I'm 29.
I have some thinking to do.
Went back
Went back and read your previous blogs for context. nReally, none of the details of things matter (mini wife, conceited, unparented, bad higiene) except in the context of "is this a relationship that you want to be in forever" because if you want children, and have some with this dud(e) you will be shackled for the rest of your life to mini-wife, entitled, coddled and catered to SD.
Make a list, pros and cons. Because love isnt enough. Not only do you have her father who is failing to parent, youve got a toxic MIL, who is encouraging all this bad behavior of not holding princess not-wonderful to acceptable standards and who is neglecting her other grands to cater to the Golden(not) Child of the family.
If this is happening NOW, think of what will happen if you have child(ren) with your SO. They too will be neglected and treated as less-than. No presents for them from gma, no trips with gma, they will see how she treats SD. And the resentment within you will grow as a result.
You’re probably right.
You're probably right. This gave me something to think about.
If SD were not in the picture he would be 100% perfect, but because she is, it has caused a whole SLEW of problems. Ugh.
This isn't the way it's supposed to be and that makes me sad.
Don't fall into the mentality
Don't fall into the mentality thinking a partner will be perfect. They won't be. They may be a great match, but no one is perfect.
This is important to recognize so that you can look objectively at your relationship. SD isn't the problem; your SO's inability to get past his own guilt, even to parent his own daughter in a way that doesn't hurt her, is. That same type of guilt likely permeates into other areas, like lack of boundaries with people because he doesn't want to hurt their feelings/start drama/insert some other excuse here. Basically, there is something inside his brain that makes him behave this way; SD is just the outlet for this behavior.
In a prior blog you said the
In a prior blog you said the following. "I personally think he should have said “Shut up, stop playing victim and feeling sorry for yourself. You’re acting like a failure right now and if you keep acting like a failure you’ll BE a failure. Be better and you’re 100% grounded from friends, phone, EVERYTHING until you start being responsible and stop acting like a lazy baby.”"
While your DH may not be effective the way he is handling it.. the above is absolutely wrong.. and in no way would any good parent speak to their child like that.. it isn't helpful.. it isn't caring.. and it isn't designed to do anything other than beat down the kid. It's clear that for many reasons.. you resent her.. and some of those reasons may be valid.. and may be a direct result of your SO being a crap parent.. and a poor partner.
Of course you can't be the only one who is concerned.. (I'm not so sure "care" is the right word in your case).. but stooping to low blow talk.. and mean words is not effective communication either.. clearly the kid is struggling.. and a lot more needs to be done to figure out why.. and to HELP her get in a better place with her schoolwork. Maybe that means her parents have to sit with her EVERY night to do her homework with her.. yeah.. she should know better.. but it isn't happening.. maybe they need to enforce this habit? Same with your other complaints.. he needs to spend more time and attention on HER to make sure she is doing things like being hygenic.. etc..
Of course.. that will take attention and focus from you and your relationship.. but his primary responsibility is his child.. and right now he is failing.. just being "nice" to your kid doesn't cut it (not saying that being mean is the alternative).. you need to be consistent.. and supportive and put in the work... that clearly has been missed in the past with this kid. At 11.. it's not entirely too late for him to refocus her.. he needs to get on with it..
But.. you also do need to probably disengage a bit from the situation when it doesn't impact you directly.. because clearly your involvement has not been considered helpful or wanted.
Yes I did.
Yes I did say that in a prior blog and I still mean it. Maybe you have never had a step-child purposely manipulate your S/O and take advantage of his kindness but that's exactly what was happening. I guess you would need the full backstory and to see the things that go down with her to truly see the entire picture. She's fully aware of how she is acting and this is a result of her never being told no or having ANY tough love or accountability whatsoever. (Yes-mom and dad's fault mostly.)
This child gets more attention and affection than any kid I've ever met. She has unlimited help with anything and everything, she has her dad wrapped around her finger- she just knows "daddy will do it and make it all better." We sit down for dinner every night she is here as a family and play cards/games with her; we ask about school, attend all her basketball practices and games, etc.
Also- I've NEVER been un-kind to her in any way and this conversation was a private one with her dad and I and she was not in our home.
Its always easy to blame the one who loses their cool even after they were provoked and pushed for three years.
Oh.. I absolutely have had
Oh.. I absolutely have had both of my SD's do that at times.. sometimes big.. sometimes small.
I have had frustrations with both of them not living up to their potential in school.. the procrastination.. the bad habits.. yes.. the laziness.
But.. using harsh language.. like you said you thought he should use is not effective. it just really isn't.
I'm not saying that the parents can't be upset at their child.. or express disappointment.. but not how you phrased that.
and.. that is my point.. the "nice attention.. " is not getting the job done.
Time for more matter of fact INTERFERENCE with the schoolwork.
Show me your homework
Show me your assignment plan for the class
I will sit here with you while you do your work.
No play till work is done.
I will help you after you TRY on your own to complete problems.
and.. Consequences for lying about having assignments.. a kid doesn't miss 15 assignments with parents who are daily monitoring and managing their schoolwork... and when they find that the kid used the ole "I don't have any"..
well.. grounded from electronics.. and possibly a meeting with teacher to get a more frequent update on assigments missed.. so that it doesn't go for weeks...
again... involved parenting.. not involved playmate.
Understood
Honestly, you're preaching to the choir.
Exactly what you said are the same habits I've been trying to force DH to take hold of. I have been on the sidelines, asking him if he has checked in with her teachers, asking him if he has asked her if her homework was done, etc.
Literally all the things you said, I have tried to ask in the past and get a blank stare from SD and resistance from DH.
I have encouraged the difficult conversations and the conversations about holding her accountable and it has gone nowhere. Pathetic small attempts, like taking her phone away for a day or two or having a conversation with her for 10 minutes are made but no real lasting changes and no real changed behavior; so, I apologize but your comment about "not sure care is the correct word in your case," was rude and ignorant.
I've done nothing but care for the past three years about this kids future when it seems like nobody else is, so I LOST it because I'm frustrated that no one seems to care the way I do.
Clearly, there was a reason I was so upset and in my experience, you don't get upset about things you don't care about.
Then use other means ...such
Then use other means ...such as guilt. Rather than ask if he's done xyz, phrase it differently - Why don't you love SD enough to make sure her homework is done/check in with her teacher/make her brush her teeth/etc.?
This is true.. sometimes the
This is true.. sometimes the delivery is part of the solution.
I know that almost no parents want to hear bad things about their kid.
It's like my YSD who was complaining to me that her cousin was bad mouthing her sister.. like .. "she" was the one who could do that.. but not other people.. haha.
In fact.. sometimes the more we would try to point out someone is mean, lazy, stupid, dishonest.. etc.. it just ends up shutting the other person down into defense mode and protection of that person.. which is not necessarily where we are trying to go with it.
So.. yeah.. love..guilt.. "don't you love her enough to take the time to make sure her work is done? she obviously is having a hard time organizing by herself".
I used that often.. "gosh.. I'm afraid SD will be embarassed if she goes places and doesn't know it's rude to eat with your hands... grab the last piece of candy.. etc.."
"she is so smart.. I know she must be frustrated that her grades don't reflect it. have you had that talk with her teacher to figure out how to better help her be successful?"
I mean.. yeah.. the truth may be the kid is disorganized.. lazy.. or even "stupid".. but we need to look at the long game and try to use communication that is more effective.. than blunt.
And.. I'm not saying we have to absolutely blow smoke.. etc.. but you do get more flies with honey than with salt.. and getting people to agree with your long range goals.. which are actually the same.
He wants his child happy and successful as an adult.
You want his child happy and successful as an adult..so they aren't living in your basement.. (2nd part does not need to be said outloud.. hahaha)
Used that one!
Winterglow, I just used that phrase for the first time last night because someone (maybe you?) had suggested it on one of these blogs before. I hope it stuck with him and made him feel some sort of way.
But, but ... why do you want
But, but ... why do you want to have a child with this man when he's such an awful parent? He's showing you he doesn't care or have the attention to detail necessary to teach kids to be successful or even likeable. Not only would you basically be forced to parent solo but he would undermine you with his inability to draw boundaries or be firm. Be choosy about the father of your future kids.
That’s what I said.
I actually brought this up and told him practically word for word what you said.
He admitted to overcompensating to SD because of the divorce with her mom.
He tells me that mom was always mean/emotionally distant from SD and yelled at her all the time when they were in the household (that may be exaggerated- I don't fully believe that 100% and I also believe SD is EXTREMELY weak and sensitive- to an unhealthy point so that may be how she took it) so he told me he feels like he has to make up for mom's behavior and also for the fact that she has a "broken home."
He tells me it won't be that way if we have kids because our children will have both involved, emotionally stable parents.
I told him he proves that to me when he starts exhibiting that behavior with SD, no excuses.
We'll see, I guess.
But then
You will have to explain to YOUR child the double standard. Why dad is soft on SD and hard on your child. You will probably need to explain why SD ignores your child or treats your child badly.
Think THRICE!
So what is his excuse for not
So what is his excuse for not being an emotionally stable, involved parent with SD now? Even part-time, a parent can be that. Even if a kid balks at it, a parent can AND SHOULD be that.
The way I read what he said is that he knows YOU'LL be emotionally stable so he can coast on that. He won't have to take the emotional stability lead.
Great points, everyone.
Honestly this thread right here has been so insightful. You all have given me a lot of things to think about and perspectives I haven't quite thought of.
I'm heavily taking these things into consideration while I sort out my thoughts on this matter.
I get being frustrated BUT
I get being frustrated BUT you stated you were mean. Meaner than you should have been. That means you weren't fighting fair and there is no room in a marriage for fighting like that.
My opinion- You need to apologize to both of them.. Tell them you were wrong to yell or say any of the mean things you said. That you are just going to step back and let dad deal with school and and discipline. That it just is more stress than you can handle. That you only ever wanted the best for her and you really hope she is successful.
The best and healthiest way for you to move forward is to stop being a parent. Be in the "fun aunt" role. Be there to celebrate, show support, ect but if something needs parenting- tell your husband and be done with it. Take emotion out of it. When something isn't going the way you think it should, remind yourself that she isn't your child. Back away from the situation.
Pushed to my breaking point.
Yes- I was certainly pushed and provoked to the point that I lost my cool. I own that and for the things that were mean spirited I will apologize to DH, but the overall message still remains the same.
SD was not in our home when this conversation was had, and for what it's worth, I've never been unkind to her in any way. All concerns I've had about her are directed to DH in private.
I do plan to disengage because I can't take the burden of the parenting mistakes made by and continuing to be made by DH and BM anymore, but my only concern is having a child that ends up in her late 20s or even 30s remaining in our home because she was never able to follow through with anything in life.
I have some thinking to do.
I've been in a fight with my
I've been in a fight with my DH like that too. While I wasn't mean I was certainly very very direct and didn't hold back. Saying many of the things you did. He abruptly ended the argument, inadvertently, when he said, "But I'm the DAD!" I immediately stopped talking, looked at him and said, "Yes, you ARE the parent." And that was my absolutely fully disengaged moment (I did things then to try to help, partially disengaged). I accidentally engage now and then, it never ends well even with small things).
Stay disengaged. Remain polite and firm. Learn phrases like "Good" and "Interesting" and "No". Non-committal phrases work great.
I love my DH, I don't love his parenting style. And now that OSD had disappeared and YSD has started to, things are a lot less stressed, even DH has admitted this. So it works if you and your DH have a strong relationship outside of the skids.
Thank you for the advice!
Thank you for the advice regarding non-comittal phrases. That's a good one and I'm sure, like you admitted, I will accidentally engage here and there.
Tonight I completely disengaged. SD even came home saying how her "Grandma told her she was going to take her to get $200 Jordan's (shoes)" and how excited she is- perfect 'punishment' for failing all her classes-eh?
I didn't even make eye contact and just said "cool." Didn't even look over at DH or say anything to him.
I know I know, it's my fault for staying. The man truly is wonderful to me: worships the ground I walk on- and I love him too. Clearly he treats ME well or I would have been gone in a second.
This fucking circus I'm dealing with, I tell ya.
Once you disengage
He will be more apt to experience full scale the consequences of his guilty daddy parenting without you as a buffer/good cop bad cop. When he comes to you for advice/solace, practice shrugging your shoulders.
DH: "SD is failing every course and skipping school!"
Rose Pedal: "Gee that's tough. " (in very neutral tone and facial expression) *shrug*
DH: "SD was caught shoplifting today."
Rose Pedal: "That is going to be difficult to sort out." *shrug*
Then change the subject. Learn to segue into anything.
Get creative!
My skids were out of the
My skids were out of the house when DH and I married so I didn't have all these parenting issues. But DH was Friend Parent, and that has its own version of damage into adulthood.
I did have several horrible meltdowns where I said some things I regret. DH is a gentle soul and he handles strong negative emotion badly. Disciplining his kids was beyond him because it might hurt their little fee fees. BUT I truly believe it took all that on my part to push him to the point where my unhappiness was more important than his unwillingness to set boundaries around money and behavior with his "adult" children.
And I had to set some pretty firm boundaries, to the point of leaving the marriage if they were crossed. And DH knew I would leave, and had the means to do so. His and BM's inability to parent was not going to make me miserable and a party to their dysfunction. Prior to setting boundaries, I felt like I was the crazy one -- I had never seen friend parenting before. I spent several years with a good counselor to get to the point of knowing what it was I needed from my DH. Highly recommended.
We did work through it and are still together and happy. I have very little relationship with his kids, though, other than general civility. It works for us.
Sounds identical.
Your situation (besides your S-kids being out of the home/older) sounds identical to mine. My DH is a wonderful partner to me. He is gentle and kind- doesn't want to hurt anyone's feelings but especially his daughter's.
He does anything I need him to (besides parent her the way I suggest) and is there for me in every way emotionally, physically, mentally, spiritually. Everything.
I've also applied the pressure and SOME changes have happened but not many, when it comes to parenting and accountability.
He knows I would leave if I needed. I am strong and independent with a good family and a thriving career and I have every means to take care of myself.
Today he has been laying it on thick. He called me telling me he called the principal to set up a meeting with his daughter and him.
I told him. "Good, I hope that happens." Then said I didn't want to speak about it anymore because I'm disengaging.
Thank you for your insight.
Been there
Been there, done that. The sad fact is, it needed to be said. You were holding back to spare his feelings, but he needs to hear it and see how much this is hurting your relationship. Next time, try not to wait until the dam bursts before telling him this. If you are getting to that point of frustration, your message may be lost in the delivery. (ie: screaming, crying...) I know how awful this feels and I am sorry you have to go through this.
My DH used to say "Why are you always threatening to leave me? That is so hurtful" I would reply "Because that is the only time you ACTUALLY listen to what I am saying and take my feelings into account." My DH came around but it took 12 years, and now his kids are all but grown up. He is feeling the repercussions of his lack of action all those years. He is estranged from 2 out of 3 of his kids, and they are not doing well in life. Now they are blaming him for their lack of ability to adult. Go figure.
That last part. Wow!
Thank you for understanding my feelings- it means a lot. This is why I love this group- you guys get it.
You're correct- I've let it get to the point where the dam breaks, now here we are.
I'm at the point where I'm going to decide if I'm going to dump 12+ more years into this to see if it changes or cut my losses and move on from this circus- he is just such a great partner to ME (completely subtracting the drama with SD out of it.)
Those last few sentences/very powerful. They blame him for lack of parenting now that they are not getting along well. You're absolutely right, go figure!
Just to add - how I survived....
Just to add - I survived those 12 years by disengaging from the kids and any responsiblities that entailed them. This includes cleaning up after them, doing their laundry, giving them money for sports clubs, etc. I refused because of the way they treated me. I also didn't put up with any shite from DH when we spoke in private. When he tried to whine to me about the kids, I told him his lack of parenting would come back to haunt him, and made him promse me that none of his kids would EVER live with us after they left home - and that they WOULD leave home by age 19.
I also had him sign a living will and trust that said I had a right to keep the home we bought together, and that our belongings would remain ours after either of us died - unless specifically agreed on by us to go to one or the other of our relatives. This way I knew that he would only be screwing himself over, not me. Also I knew the SD's would try to take my home away if he died first, and I'll be damned if I worked this hard to lose my home to a bunch of candyassed whiners. LOL. So, he chose me - and I am glad I dont' have to deal with those kids if he dies before me. I don't want' to be grieving him and have to pander to their greed at the same time.
This reminds me I need to
This reminds me I need to have DH complete his will as he wants to do.
Completely Understand
Unfortunately you just may have to completely disengage from the situation. If she continues to have missing assignments, so be it. Continues to flunk her classes, so be it. I completely understand your frustration, and DH isn't helping the matter at all by being so damned passive about it.
I would highly recommend counseling for yourself just so you can preserve whatever mental health you have left.
Yes to both.
Yes to counseling and disengaging.
Tonight I completely disengaged. SD even came home saying how her "Grandma told her she was going to take her to get $200 Jordan's (shoes)" and how excited she is- perfect 'punishment' for failing all her classes-eh?
I didn't even make eye contact with her and just said "Cool."
Didn't even look over at DH either or say anything to him.
Not my problem anymore and all I know is if she's not working a full time job OR in college (one or the other) after she graduates high school, then she's out, or I'm out.
Letting DH experience the kid's behaviors
All 3 of my SKs moved in unexpectedly over a 9-month period, a huge episode in my life. I acted as a mother figure to them and things worked well enough except for YSS, DH's fave. DH never backed me up with YSS, a witty, likeable boy who wasn't very close to me. I kept having to go to school for meetings about his behavior but DH and YSS always laughed them off. YSS was messing up in other areas but DH just would not see it.
The next time YSS was suspended, I refused to go. DH, who hates that type of confrontation, had to go and was furious at YSS. That was the last school episode. I also disengaged from driving YSS to his year-round sports activities and everything else. I was still polite, still made family meals, did family laundry, etc, but nothing special. DH took over all of YSS's discipline ( If you can call it that).
I think all 3 of us were relieved. As I look back, I think YSS might have wanted more of DH's attention which probably seemed limited with 5 kids, me and a hectic job. DH always liked interacting with him and I felt less frustration.
Flash forward and YSS55 is an excellent father and successful salesman. Some of his lack of self-discipline has had negative effects on his life. He and I still have a polite and civil relationship altho we arent close. Its fine.
Thank you for sharing.
Thank you for sharing your story and experience with me. I'm glad that it turned out good for you in the end. I am at the point that I just honestly do not know how this is going to go or end because right now it feels so hopeless. Being in the beginning stages of trying to disengage has already proven to be very tough.
Likewise, SD wants all of his attention nonstop, which is a big reason why she was very jealous when I came in the picture. She's addicted to attention and it's turned into her pulling stunts at school to get it.
I just don't feel like DH is taking initiative or doing the right thing with this punishment and seeing how she is already turning out at 11, almost 12 years old, I have little faith in his parenting.
I hope if I decide to stay in the picture that I have the same success in the end that you have had.
Thank you for sharing. *give_rose*
Been there
I have done something similar. I believe I also threw out "Precious SS who can do no wrong". Oops. I was in a fiery rage. We all get to the point where what we have been thinking just comes out. I'm not proud, I probably shouldn't have said it, but I was feeling the same as you- like he was always telling SS yes, never following through on punishments, and he just wanted to be SS's friend. There was also favoritism towards SS16 vs. SD13.
I will say DH has improved in many areas, and he's on SS pretty hard about a lot of things now (of course, not always the things that are important to me). But I try to disengage from school stuff, most discipline, and money DH spends on skids. I draw the line at letting the house become a pigsty and me doing all of the cleanup. I have to bite my tongue HARD sometimes because I don't agree with how DH is handling situations. But I try to remember the NACHO mantra- You may not agree with DH's parenting, and you may think he is being too lenient, letting them get away with too much....but you need to trust your partner to parent their kids as they see fit. For the sake of your marriage. This is sooo hard for me. Sometimes I keep quiet solely because the thought of fighting about a skid is exhausting to me and not worth it. I would absolutely step in if I think there is a chance one of these kids won't launch because of DH's lack of parenting. So far we are on a good path.
All that aside, the anger from this fight will lessen, but then I think you need to determine if you think your words will alter DH's behavior towards SD. No? Then you have a bigger decision to make. Can you live with this, and have a kid with him? Or can you try to let go of some control and not give it the space it's holding in your head, for the sake of your happiness and relationship? Do you think a calm sit-down about your concerns would help anything? If you get to the point where nothing will change, the only thing you can do is change YOUR way of thinking about it and responding, or leave the relationship.
I feel for you. This is a hard gig, especially when you have a Disney Dad on your hands.
But HOW can I truly disengage?
I really appreciate your sharing this with me. For the past few days, I have been disengaging the best way I know how and as best as possible.
I am really struggling with it.
The disengaging part is not even the hardest, but I am finding it nearly impossible to keep the thoughts out of my head and just let them go.
How do all of you truly disengage? It is like I try to disengage, but then the feeling of frustration sits with me and resentment starts to build because I feel like I can't speak my mind.
I am an all or nothing person and it's very difficult for me to hold back speaking my opinion when I feel strongly about something. I feel like all of you are so good at this, and I am not cut out for living in a situation where I need to disengage. I am feeling so overwhelmed and hopeless with this whole situation.
It feels like it is a lose-lose.
It takes practice. I
It takes practice. I disengaged in steps...most aggravating to least things. I stopped asking or gave one or two requests that were usually ignored the I did things on my own.
It gets easier as you will step in and feel the ramifications then learn, oh I won't do that again....patience, perseverance, be calm and not reactive.
If this doesn't work for you then you need to evaluate whether you really can be with him because it doesn't end at 18.
4/10 on the Disengagement scale
Oh I am terrible at disengagement. Lol. It is not easy for me whatsoever. For years I disengaged nothing but schoolwork, mostly becaue I want nothing to do with it naturally. Then as DH and I disagreed repeatedly on the same topics, and he adamantly would say he didn't want me to speak up when he spends $ on skids, or if he decides on a punishment and I don't agree, "his way goes" anyway, so me arguing doesn't do much....I used to speak up anyway, and a huge blowout would ensue. Which got us nowhere, because he was going to do what he wanted anyway, and he had ultimate say over skids since he spawned them, and this was really just causing us to fight for no real reason. After many many rants on here, and going rounds with DH on the same topic, I just realized I had to do something different for my own sanity and relationship. Does it drive me nuts still? Absolutely. Even if I don't SAY anything about DH's bullshit punishments, I still think it and am irritated. I suck at disengaging. But I try to keep quiet. It's not ideal, and others here are better at it. There are times I wish I would have cut and run so I didn't have to deal with this forever honestly. But I'm 7yrs in and I can see the light at the end of the tunnel, so I'm staying because there is an end in sight where they move out (we both agree on that).
For anyone doubting if they can or want to do it, especially if the kids are younger....I honestly advise getting out. It has only gotten harder for me now that they are teens. I hate every second of being a SM.
Are you in for the rest of your life?
Or even the the next 7yrs until SD-11 ages out from under the CO?
Those.... IMHO, are the questions you need to answer for yourself.
Also keep in mind that... this is an 11yo. A very young child. Just barely a pre-teen and not even close to being into the horror teen years. On that variable, you may have come on too strong. If she was 15 and useless, that might have been less inflamatory.
As for strategy to recover a foundering teen... We sent ours to Military School. Just as my parents did with theirs, and my dad's parent's did with theires. Keep it in mind... in another few years if.... DH does not extricate his head from his own ass, and SD's ass from hers.