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Silence has broken...(sung to the tune "morning has broken")

CLove's picture

Well, it has happened. I knew it would happen eventually, and was right! Toxic Feral Eldest has now had a falling out with her mother, Toxic Troll, over money owed for rent and for rides to her work (TFE doesnt drive at age 19.5 and would uber, so Toxic Troll has been her uber). TFE SD19, texted her father, DH, after a long silence, accusations of abuse and then ignoring during Munchkin SD12 pickups, last night. It was a rather long text, summarized by saying that her mother is going to boot her out of the apartment they share, and that her mother has been "draining her bank account", with demands for money (because like, it costs money to live. Sidenote: I am surprised at this, because previous to living with her mother, TFE has been living on her own with friends. Perhaps for free? Perhaps thats why no more living with friends is happening)

He responded by saying he doesnt think her mother would boot her out of the apartment. Then DH texts TTroll and asks what is up with TFE?

Another long text, esentially saying that rent is overdue, and they may lose the apartment because she is not getting enough money from her daughter, and that her daughter is calling her rude and salty (another word for b!tchy. Oh REALLY? Someone calling you SALTY, BM???), and that her daughter doesnt realize how much money it costs to just live, and that her driving TFE around is saving her hundreds of dollars, that TFE has shown zero interest in getting her drivers license, and that she, Toxic Troll might have to take out a payday loan...

Like he cares.

Then around 4 am, I hear DH's phone buzzing, and sneek a peek. Its Toxic Feral Eldest saying that she is short the cash for rent, can he give her $400. I happen to know that he doesnt have the money, and I just started my new job, so I dont have the money. So I guess that lets us off the hook? 

And this is after all the crap that she put us through, and all the angry texts accusing her father of abusing her, and her sister, all the lies, and accusations against other family members, after trying to pit her mother and sister against me, after her pretending to be ok with me, all the while harboring resentments and hatred for me. DH agrees that he needs to not be involved in her toxic modalitites, but what can he really do, thats his kid, when all is said and done.

If they continue their relationship, after her breaking her silence (after no money given, its likely he wont hear from her again for at least a while...), it will definitely not happen in my home, as it is now my home (especially since my parents bought it last month, and we will purchase in a few months...)

I am experiencing what many here have - the returning prodical Skid, who upsets the peace and tranquility of homelife, asking for money and help, perhaps a place to live. Although its unlikely, for us, because, you know, I am a crazy rude b!tch, and installed a large fish tank and a bunch of furniture, to the point it couldnt possibly contain a bed and dresser (no money for it anyway. Right now) I am wondering about the future. TFE will try to manipulate DH into feeling sorry for her, playing victim, and then trying to make him feel like a terrible father. He knows deep down he is not and was not, but they like to pluck the heartstrings dont they?

With my new job and the home purchase, I will have a bigger stake in things. I will also have more leverage. I am hoping the day will NOT come where DH sais that Toxic Feral Eldest is asking if she can move back into her old room. I will need the strength to say no, of course. backed by all the memories and blogs here, of how she verbally spewed hatred at me and then accused me of abusing her. By yelling through her bedroom door during an argument.

Silence has broken - like the first morning!

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tog redux's picture

He needs to tell TFE, at the very least, that she has to meet with him and discuss the period of hostility/alienation before he would even consider helping her out.

CLove's picture

Communication is not his strong suit. And he has a "pleaser" personality. But I will suggest that, when it comes up.

tog redux's picture

It's the only way he's going to avoid her just using him for money - make her work for it and take some accountability. And as for the rest - I would never agree to let my SS19 move in, especially if he had been hostile and rude to me (he never has).  Only if he is truly homeless.

I know the feeling of the prodigal skid returning - thankfully my DH is not a pushover or pleaser.

Harry's picture

A week or two when she hits you up for money again !!  You should Have money  in two weeks, so you have to have exter money for her and BM.  Did you text her back find a job !  Even at $10 a hour that $400 a week 

CLove's picture

She has a job, and a nosering, and a tatoo. Her father can see her bank balance when he makes deposits from linking their accounts previously. He sais that she always has about 200-300, however now her mama is "draining her account", asking for gas money to run her around and bills and stupid things like rent.

And never before have I actually agreed with Toxic Troll! However we were laughing at her texts, because she always tries to make DH feel super guilty and that he is not a "good dad." And here she is now, complaining at how her daughter is acting ENTITLED. Expecting a free ride. LOL> well here you are karma bus! 

DH gets paid next week. So, she will probably hit him up then. And I need work on my car to get to my job, and will be needing to have money to carry me through until I get paid. So he might have to make some hard choices. I hope that TT gets her payoff (from the workers comp claim of 50k), or something happens. I dont want to worry that TFE will ask to live with us. Its almost worthwhile just giving her a little cash to tide things over...to keep her away! I see that here all the time.

Survivingstephell's picture

Nope, no way in hell is that toxic troll jr allowed to live with you.  If you want to keep this marriage intact, DH will have to choose his happiness over another adult that should be launching.  Its hard to watch someone hit bottom but that is what you need to do with addicts and this is what you have on hand, an addict.  She is addicted to her childhood, sucking money off her parents and an easy life.  

Who here has not struggled as they became an adult???? Not one of us.  Struggling for SD and BM is ok, it what THEY HAVE CHOSEN as their lifestyle.  So be and let them have at it.  

You use the word TOXIC all the time concerning these two, why would you let them back in????  DH needs to manage his realtionship away from your  marriage and your home.  Putting the marriage first is priority number one,  Having you by his side is way more beneficial for him and his happiness than being alone and having to deal with this toxic crap from SD and BM.   Focus on getting munchkin launched and keeping your marriage strong.  Put the walls up in their direction.  One little crack and they will destroy the wall and everyone behind it eventually.  

I will say that I wanted walls in the first place, backed down, then came back hard and strong.  DH finally caught up with me and he was able to appreciate what I had already put in place.  You might just have to be the strong one for now.  

 

CLove's picture

Is an understatement, but I try to keep from unleasing too much . lol.

yes, we must be strong, and not let the poison back in. I just hope perhaps another friend will let her in their home, away from influencing Munchkin.

Munchkin tells us she is always either out with friends or working anyway. Or creating messes in the apartment.

Our marriage will be my priority, and I feel like DH understands that he too must make it a priority. 

She did have it super easy - never held a job until she turned 18 and graduated hs (barely). Now she has been working graveyard shift and is supposedly goin to JC (doubt it, she is very lazy), and I dont know about drinking or anything, but she definitely is doing her thing. She has her nose barbell, a tatoo and gets to live with mama. She is simply used to her parents footing the bill. So its a shock when her mother asks for rent money or bills, or gas money to run her around. 

I do know she does pot - you know for her "anxiety". who knows what else she is getting into these days. But yes, walls to be enforced.

Exjuliemccoy's picture

I agree with Survivngstephell - these are just growing pains that every previously entitled young adult must experience. Feral Eldest and her momee are just agitating and throwing drama around, so keep that wall high and strong. There are important lessons for everyone to learn here (Not that TT will): Feral Eldest needs to learn that nobody rides for free and life will continue to suck as long as she remains dependent on others for something as basic as transportation; your DH needs to learn that issues between FE and TT are just that - between them; Munchkin hopefully will learn not to follow her sister and mother's example; and you will learn that bratty skids do tend to resurface at irregular intervals, causing drama and then dropping back below the surface like a malignant sea monster. 

Let's be honest, a lot of kids are annoying between the ages of 17 - 22. They're spreading their wings and trying to adult, but their brains aren't finished cooking yet so they do dumb things, all while thinking they know everything. But as long as FE isn't in your home or your pocketbook, yaay! You're winning!

Congratulations on the new job and your folks buying your home. Those were your two biggest worries, and it definitely changes the playing field for you so keep your boundaries strong, keep your money to yourself, and leave them to it.

 

 

notasm3's picture

You need an iron clad agreement that the house is YOURS.  And as owner you have the last word in who lives there.  

Do not ever let the ahole move in or even spend the night. I’ve let SS be homeless. He always found someone to take him in.