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mapap's picture

Hi everyone, I have a really long thread in the teenage stepchildren forum. I figured time to move to the blog entry because its really long. https://www.steptalk.org/forum/parenting/teenage-stepchildren/stressed-s.... This is the link if anyone wants to read the 100 messages. 

Long story short, my BF who i have been with for 7 years has asked me to leave the house we live in because I have the expectation that his teenage daughters (one is an adult) ages 22, 19,and 16 should be contributing to the household chores and we should work as a team. He feels they shouldn't have many rules, they can be disrespectful to me, and basically he is at their every beck and call. 

We have fought over this for 2 years. Their mother threw them out, she is a narc, won't talk to them, and they have been with us full time for about 7 months. They are slobs, lazy, and rude. 

I have bought a new house which i am hopefully moving into this coming week. This site has really helped me throught this ordeal and has been so supportive. 

 I really have to commend everyone here who put up w this crap much longer than me. Did anyone have any regrets or feel lonely? Did any of your exes come back? Or did they have some sort of life changing realization??

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Stepdrama2020's picture

I left my ex DH after ten years of being the sideline to his love affair with the snotty SD. Mini wife galore and daddio worshipped the ground she walked on.

Regrets, at first when it was new being alone. I glamorized the rare, more like very rare good times. I felt alone on holidays. I reminded myself that I hated the holidays with the love triangle. Every holiday even Valentines was SD worship time.

Yes he tried to come back. I blocked his ass. I d rather be lonely with myself than lonely with the wrong person.

You will realize smart lady that life will bring you peace without these toxic shrews.

CONGRATULATIONS for making a positive change for yourself. Your SO may realize his wrong doings, but if the mini wifes have so much power and he is a guilty daddio, that is a strong pull you cant compete with.

BLESSINGS

 

ESMOD's picture

I am assuming you are saying that you are moving out to your own home.. without him or them?

Look..l teen girls (and even into their 20's).. can be tough.. difficult at best.  There can be a lot of jockeying for position in the home.. and it sounds like these girls didn't get a lot of quality parenting by EITHER parent growing up.

So, when you step in and try to set what you think are reasonable rules and boundaries?  You have set bars so much higher than they could attain from their current abilities.. AND.. your BF does not have any interest in your rules.. they aren't important to him.

If your own BF doesn't think your rules or boundaries are reasonable expectations.. why would his children think anything else?

And every attempt by you to force and push the rules is seen as overstepping and mean.. and you already are on shakey ground with these girls.. so this just puts you in the position of "ahole" in the house.. and they resent you even further.

Correction without connection is a recipe for disaster.. you aren't their parent.. they don't love you.. don't have that connection.. so your rules and attempts at consequences are seen as overbearing.

Please don't get me wrong.. I'm not saying your rules or boundaries may not be reasonable.. but they may not be realistic.. especially given the years of no boundaries.. and the fact that your BF has no apparent desire to back you up.

This may be a case where moving out.. where the rules won't matter in his home to you.. because you will be gone.. is the way to go.. whether you continue to see him socially or not

Elea's picture

Wow, that is beautifully stated. I agree 100% but would not be able to explain like you did.

mapap's picture

yes i am moving out on my own. This was the best solution my BF could come up with. Because you are right, he has no interest in actually parenting. their mother did a horrible job as well. If he doesnt feel his kids need to be more responsible and help in the house, I can't see any other way to solve the issue, because exactly, he won't back me up. I don't know the future of our relationship because I resent that it has to come to this and that he didn't try to have us work as a team 

caninelover's picture

Your BF basically told you he loves his kids (or at least lives not upsetting them) more than you.

You deserve better.  And you will have better.  Stay strong and take one day at a time.  Best wishes.

CLove's picture

You did it! I read through your linked post. What a drama. I hope you stay to share your insights and your story, to help others who have been through what you have.

From others who have posted, once they decided to move out, the crazy ramped up. Do not engage. Once the others actually were gone gone, either the crazy ramped up, but they were a safe distance away, or there was dead silence and another woman, er victim.

It sounds like from your posts and comments that he is doing the common thing, and will either move on to a new person or try to hoover you back into his crazy circus. Id rip the bandaid right off and cut him loose.

There is better and brighter ahead for you, Ive seen it many times. Biggrin

mapap's picture

yes that is my fear getting sucked back in. I hope i have the strength to stay away! I will definitely stay here and I will do whatever i can to help other people. It's really unfortunate that things are not the way they used to be when i was growing up. Parents stayed together because they were on the same page. The relationship was important and kids were not catered to constantly. It's not helping these kids. And i feel it's going to be way worse once i leave. I also feel the MOM has something to do with all this. I think she kicked the kids out because she couldn't handle it. I think she wanted her ex husband to deal with it knowing it would have an impact on our relationship. I feel after she realizes i'm gone she will get the kids to come back. This will be her ultimate revenge to her ex and I feel she has been waiting for this day. 

Winterglow's picture

Focus on the way you see him. When you lose all respect for him, that's when you'll know it's over. Something tells me that day is not so far away. 

Never forget that you come first. 

StepUltimate's picture

I endured hoping for the Bright Light at the End of the Tunnel... but the empty nest only served to reveal my now EXH got worse, with all anger, resentment & contempt aimed at me. 

Glad you are not married!

reedle2021's picture

" I really have to commend everyone here who put up w this crap much longer than me. Did anyone have any regrets or feel lonely? Did any of your exes come back? Or did they have some sort of life changing realization??"

I could really relate to your post.  I have been in a similar situation up until recently.  I left my ex husband 5 months ago.  I was with him for 9 years, married for 4.  His son was 12 when we met and 21 when I left.  My ex husband was emotionally and at times physically abusive - this came later in the relationship, the physical abuse gradually developed about 1 year or so before I left him, the emotional abuse had been present subtly all along but worse before I left.  The other huge issue was that he was enmeshed and codependent with his adult son.  He put his son before our marriage - always, no matter what.  He treated his son's girlfriends better than me.  He never worked and his son barely worked.  His son was unemployed for about 18 months prior to me leaving then began a "job" that was 8-10 hours/week about 3 months before I left.  And my ex SS complained about working that amount of hours a week.  My ex SS was passive aggressive, jealous of any time his dad and I spent together (which wasn't much), would tell his dad I did things (like throw and kick his cat) when I didnt - his dad always took his side.  They were like a married couple and I was the roommate.  There were no rules or expectations for the adult son.  He did whatever he wanted and I was expected to pay for anything he needed or wanted.  I was not allowed to ask my ex SS anything about work, school, or his life - if I did, he ran to his daddy telling him I was "pressuring" him.  His son was rude to me, didn't clean up after himself, never cooked and never did his own laundry.  I was like a 5th wheel and yet, I paid for everything.  I worked hard, worked jobs I didn't like with long hours and where patients threw things at me or called me names.  I gave and gave and gave.  And I got nothing.  They were both a&&holes to me.  They would badmouth me when they thought I couldn't hear, they would roll their eyes at each other if I pleasantly tried to join their conversations or when I came into the room.  When his son got sick, he babied him and worried.  When I got sick, my ex and his son implied that I was faking for attention and left me alone in my bedroom, not even bothering to check on me or bring me even a glass of water.  I was ignored and talked mean to.  He allowed his son to treat me like sh&t and he treated me that way too.  So at the end of May this year, I had all my "ducks in a row," rental secured, furniture ordered, new job secured, address changed, etc., movers scheduled and then one day I just packed my stuff and left.  He was sleeping (he and manchild always were up all night and slept all day) and he woke up and found me finishing packing my things in my room.  It was glorious to see the look on his face when I told him I was leaving. 

To answer your question, no, I'm not lonely. Leaving that toxic situation was the best thing I ever did.  To be honest, I am in counseling over how I was treated - I have a lot of anger at myself for allowing that and at the two adult toddlers I left behind. But do I miss them?  No.  Am I lonely?  No.  I am so much happier because I am no longer tormented and treated like sh&t on the bottom of someone's shoe.  I am no longer insulted or berated, yelled at or humiliated at the grocery store or in front of his son.  I no longer have to listen to my husband give his son advice on how to treat a women nicely when he sits back and treats me so horribly - that really stung.  I can't tell you how much better it is to leave situations like this.  Your boyfriend and his baby mama sound like horrible parents, just like my ex.  I can tell you that nothing will change, his daughters will run and ruin his life.  You can either accept being treated horribly or leave.  Because nothing changes.  I left and I have absolutely no regrets.  My ex did email me about how much he missed me, how his son wants to go to college now and some other bullsh&t a few months ago I think it was.  I forwarded the email to my attorney, requesting that he communicate to my ex that he no longer communicate with me in any way, and I copied my ex in on this message to my attorney.    I haven't heard from him since.   I think if I had responded to his email, even in a negative way, it would have opened the door to him to try to manipulate me back into his life and nothing would be any different even if I had gone back with him.  So, yes, my ex tried to come back but I doubt he had any life changing realizations.  He just wanted me back so that he and his manchild could resume their Peter Pan lifestyle on my dime. 

I hope this helps.  I think it will be beneficial for you to leave.  This situation sounds awful and it won't change.  My heart is with you and I know it is hard to leave even though it is necessary.  But believe me, there is a rainbow on the other side of the sh&tcloud we call stepparenting. 

Please keep us posted - take care of yourself!  Smile

 

Winterglow's picture

I hope the person who thought that mini wives didn't exist read this. Mini wives are not always female but they are very real. 

reedle2021's picture

Yep, my ex SS was a mini wife.  It was gross and weird.  But agreed, mini wives are not always female.  :)  My ex husband would get mad if SS wasn't there to help him cook supper.  Yuck.

mapap's picture

Wow! I'm so sorry you went through this! That's just terrible. Good for you for leaving and staying away. I feel intuitively that this is the right thing. I can't imagine continuing to live in this insanity. I feel these girls see him as a meal ticket. They will never leave. He buys them cars, gas, insurance, phones.. they have to pay for nothing and very little is required of them. But I will be at peace.. no more cooking, cleaning, and laundry for ungrateful people 

reedle2021's picture

Thank you, yes it was terrible. 

I think you are amazing and strong and absolutely doing the right thing.  Living in that type of situation will only cause you grief and bitterness - I know this to be true.  And you are right, his daughters will never leave, ever.  Just like my ex husband will be raising and living with/coddling his manchild for the rest of his life. 

You are right, you will definitely have peace and it is a beautiful thing!  It will feel fantastic not having to do anything more for people who don't deserve it. 

Way to go moving forward with your life!  Smile

Exjuliemccoy's picture

My late FIL spoiled his daughters from birth until he took his last breath. He fed off their love, adored them and made them mini wives. He expected nothing of them. Skilled manipulators, one became an addict, the other moved her adult bf into the home at fourteen. FIL died flat broke after decades of enabling. By then the addict, who had been daddee's special pet, was a middle-aged woman with kids who simply couldn't adult. She suffered greatly and died from self abuse. That's his legacy.

Your soon to be ex is a cake eater, ruled by guilt. He wanted his feral damaged babies AND a woman for sex, domestic and financial help, but you just wouldnt behave. He wants you to shut up, to go away and stop being "the problem". He wants everything on his own (unhealthy) terms. The daughters know you're the turd in the punch bowl and have likely been triangulating against you for some time, pressuring daddee to save them from mean ole map. Sadly, this man has made his choice and craves his daughters' approval more than a healthy adult relationship. Please, please be done with him once you're in your new home. Let him fully experience his folly while you move forward.

dandelion wishes's picture

Copy, paste, and print this excellent description that Exjuliemccoy has written and put it somewhere where you can see it regularly (I know I will!):

"Your soon to be ex is a cake eater, ruled by guilt. He wanted his feral damaged babies AND a woman for sex, domestic and financial help, but you just wouldnt behave. He wants you to shut up, to go away and stop being "the problem". He wants everything on his own (unhealthy) terms.

mapap's picture

You all are completely right! Yes! This is what's happening. Before these kids moved in they were coming here and Making a mess. Bf said he would "work" w them? How About u sit them down and tell them knock it off? These are basic things.. clean up after yourself, put things back after you use them, clea n your room, do your laundry, and help around the house if asked.. I think their mother threw them out because they didn't do these things. And being a poor parent herself she didn't know how to instill values. I really don't feel it's a lot to ask. But in agreement with ESMOD dad doesn't feel these things are important so why should they. At first he told me things would change with them. I got the old bait and switch. To make matters worse, the oldest one and myself came up w a chore schedule that was never followed. I really feel that yes, this guy will pass broke because he gives and gives to these spoiled ungrateful kids and gets nothing in return except their "love" which I don't feel is even real. I feel he is used and manipulated 

mapap's picture

I can't believe what a complete shit show people are with their kids. No wonder we have a generation of morons who can do anything and don't want to work walking the planet. For all of you who instill values, rules, consequences, and expectations in your children they will be the minority. I just went back to teaching elementary school this year and for 8 years before that I taught high school. I can't believe how kids are not doing chores and their parents are coddling and kissing their a$$. I don't feel you need to beat your kids or have them fear the crap out of you, but they can be taught basic life skills. They crave structure. I'm not sure what the hell happened. The funny thing here everybody has gotten over themselves and they are all being nice. Well folks in less that 2 weeks you can run the nut house as u see fit! Thank you for listening to my rant!!

Rags's picture

a partner.

Don't make excuses for a partner who splaches around in an inappropriate relationship with their spawn and dives into their own shallow and polluted gene pool  inappropriately.

Move on.

No regrets. No second thoughts. No glamorizing the tolerable peiods experienced.IMHO of course while minimizing the shit perpetrated by a partner and their failed family.

mapap's picture

nope no second thoughts here. I am out and am so happy I won't have to lock my stuff up soon! I locked my door today i don't really care at this point what anyone thinks. The oldest miniwife was home for a while and I don't trust anyone at this  point. The times where they are all acting decent are few and far in between. And it shouldn't be that way, everyone should be acting decent 90 percent of the time. You can understand some off days, but the shit way they all act, I'm over it.

mapap's picture

Hey everyone closing is Nov 3! Then I am allowing the sellers to stay 3 days for them to move out and they are leaving the washer and dryer for me. But this is great! The bf will b out of town too. Rug rats aren't supposed to have anyone here in the house. The cameras are going up! So I'll have to deal with them for almost a week. But after that.. they can destroy the place for all I care

mapap's picture

Moving in my new house on the 7th! SO will be away but unfortunately his gremlins will be here with me. The oldest one already giving me her smug looks and attitude even before dad has left. This can't come fast enough! I'm just hoping the gremlins don't try anything stupid while dad is gone 

Exjuliemccoy's picture

I am SO happy for you!!! Congratulations on saving yourself from a hopeless situation.

Keep careful track of your belongings until the move; Skids are known to have sticky fingers. And be sure to hum, sing, and twirl around the house like Cinderella as you pack. Make it crystal clear that you're moving on, not being booted.

mapap's picture

Yes that's my fear. Them thinking they can take things as I am packing. SO wouldn't let me keep cameras up confinscated my camera system because they have a history of taking things. He is leaving for a trip tomorrow. Cameras are going back up and doors will be locked. I'm done w the crap. I'm done being the maid and treated lower than the kids. No one, absolutely no one deserves this. I can't thank everyone enough for the continued support here on this site. I thought I was crazy, I thought I was a bad person. But this coddling of kids is getting society no where. It's just ridiculous. No wonder relationships don't last for people jn this situation. They get tired of constantly giving and not feeling appreciated 

mapap's picture

First night of being home w the spawn alone. Daddy is away on his 3 week hunting trip while the gremlins are left here with me. I'm avoiding.. not lifting a finger to help unless someone is bleeding or there is a fire. If I wasn't here ( which I won't be in about a week) he would be fine w them being here alone. I can't Imagine what he would come home to

Winterglow's picture

Have your phone ready to capture any attempt at causing damage to anything that they could try and blame on you...

mapap's picture

Yes I do have movers! I learned last night by over hearing that BM sent some emails to the kids talking crap about me. Now this is the Same crazy person who put posters up  in my local area public places with my name face address and phone number saying I was a criminal because I have a home business. At the time I had police and lawyers involved. When the kids moved in she came to the house and started trouble. She walked into our house uninvited. I was walking the dog and she walked out of the house and got in my face. I did nothing walked away and had her arrested. Now she is writing some sort of emails to the kids about me negatively I don't know what. Got forbid someone tell me. To make matters worse I caught on camera a week or so the oldest one taking a picture of my price list in my office at home. Brought it up to dad. Didn't think anything of it. I warned him I will go to war and have everyone arrested and charged if this starts up again. So I'm keeping a close eye on things. My doors are locked now that he is away. I'm worried once she gets wind I've moved she will start up again 

mapap's picture

Here is the sad part. When she got in my face in my own driveway I had her arrested but they wouldn't give me a restraining order. They ACD her. Which simply means she can't screw up for a year or she will go to jail. Don't worry she won't forget, when the year is done she will be back at it. Yes you are probably saying why the hell have u stayed this long. Yup I know.. lessons.. anyway due to the circumstance I have asked my real estate attorney to see if we can not have my name in the paper when I purchase the house if at all possible. They are going to see what they can do about keeping it out. I'm gonna write a book lol

mapap's picture

Gremlins were out of the house for a whole 24 hours. The peace was amazing . This is what I have to look forward to next week when I move. I unfortunately have to stay here Monday night as I will have no furniture, but I can take those handy pictures in that time. No word from dear old dad to me. Has had plenty of contact w the gremlins. The less contact from everyone the better!

Exjuliemccoy's picture

I so admire how you're handling your business. The drama these trashy people have perpetuated on you is shameful, and I hope your cowardly ex sups sorrow with a long spoon.

Please keep updating us, I'll be thinking of you.

mapap's picture

thank you so much, i appreciate your kind words.  When the kids are home I have completely disengaged. I say hello, and basically give one word answers to anything. I have just stayed in my own space and kept my peace. I am going to clean everything after I move my stuff out because that is the person i am, then i will take pictures to show how i left the space. If it gets destroyed, which I'm sure it will if not when I leave over time, but i will know in my heart I did the right thing. I refuse to feed into any drama from the kids, their mother, or any residual crap from their father at this point. By noon on sunday i can start moving my clothes and any other things that fit in my car, I can make a few trips and start to settle myself. Monday morning the movement starts. Its only a week away. I am really excited. I feel so bad for anyone who has to go through this, and many of you have had it much harder than me. I know i am not perfect, and I do understand the kids have come from a rotten narcissistic person who abuses prescription meds and is selfish. I try to understand that. But its dads job to teach them to be good people. They have been around us long enough to know enough to follow simple expectations and be respectful. I don't feel this is unrealistic. I never expected it to be perfect. But they have been brought into this world with a silver spoon in their mouth, they are so ungrateful and entitled, and obviously that is because both mommy and daddy told them they deserve everything and have to give nothing in return. Well, I am happy to say they can keep that twisted way of living going all by themselves

Winterglow's picture

When you start to move stuff by yourself, please have a friend sit in your space to be sure that nobody but nobodycan get at your stuff. Having an outside witness around might tame the weird sisters' antics down a bit.

mapap's picture

Well as I imagined the drama continues. The oldest brat has been texting daddy about how mean I am being.. I haven't said much I've completely disengaged, I'm minding my own business working, and the feeble attempts to talk to me I've kinda just one word answered here and there because they weren't saying anything of importance. At this point unless there is an emergency I figured we don't really need to discuss much. She sends dad a long long text telling him how horrible I am and that I've been rude and mean. Omg this can not be over with fast enough! I had a feeling they were going to start crying to daddy because I wasn't kissing their little bums. I don't feel I need to overly engage. I am happy to just stay away and mind my own business. But as usual they need to stir up some drama. Can't wait to see what dear old dad is going to say to me from his hunting trip miles and miles away! Omg this is ridiculous!

mapap's picture

Yes it is. The oldest one said I was rude and interrupted her when talking lol! She's only given me a run down of what her and her sister were doing. What was I supposed to do? Yes I'm done. By this time next week I will be sleeping in my own home basking in the joy of peace. I am so grateful it's on its way!

mapap's picture

I closed today everyone! Yay!! I agreed to give the sellers till Sunday to move out and they are giving me their washer and dryer. So Sunday the move begins!

mapap's picture

So the moving started today! Got almost all my clothes in the house. Tomorrow Movers are coming. I'm so excited. Been avoiding the gremlins like the plague. And they continue to complain to daddy about me and ask when I'm leaving. I just laugh to myself 

Winterglow's picture

I wonder what they think daddy is going to do about it. Lol

Good for you for being nearly there! 

mapap's picture

Thank you!! Yes I'm not sure what they think daddy is going to do about it while he is hunting in another state. Not to mention am I going to get punished? Lol I'm so over the attitudes! But yes good times await!

mapap's picture

I have reached freedom friends! After two days of moving stuff and a whole lot of work still yet to do, I am now laying in my new bed with my pooch in utter peace and quiet. I don't even have to lock and interior doors anymore! No dirty looks, smart ass comments, shit attitudes, filth, or over privileged crap! This is what freedom feels like. I finally made it!

Winterglow's picture

Congratulations! 

I predict a slew of calls about stuff they claim you took. 

Exjuliemccoy's picture

Winning in steplife isn't about winning over skids or competing with the ex. It's about PEACE and ACCEPTANCE.

You accepted the situation wasn't going to change, and chose the solution that guarantees you peace. You are an absolute boss as well as an inspiration for other SMs. Brava!!!

mapap's picture

Thank you so much for your kind words! I thought maybe I would feel a little sadness or regrets when I got here but not one! This is heaven! I have lots of unpacking to do, but screw it! I'm not even worried. I'll have a glass of wine after work tomorrow and get after it!

mapap's picture

You know I bet I will get calls about it. lol. My grill was accidentally delivered there today. I'm going to grab that tomorrow fast before it's held hostage lol

mapap's picture

Full day two in my new house. This is so amazing. If anyone here has any doubts about leaving if you are in a crappy skids situation.. Don't! It has been worth all the moving, all the unpacking, and stress. The drama is not worth it. Especially if you have a disney parent or mini wife situation. The support here has been incredible. I hope I can help others who have endured this because although there are worse situtions, this one has been no fun. The lies, crappy attitudes, manipulation, stealing, and all of it tolerated by the bio parent. Now its all behind me!

mapap's picture

I am absolutely having a glass of wine this evening! I am looking forward to it!

mapap's picture

So I've been living in my own house since Tuesday and I have to say I have never been happier! This is amazing! Dad comes home from his hunting trip tonight. I'm curious the condition he will find the house in. Funny part I took 40 pictures and sent them to him. So if anything is busted oh not my fault. However I am still expecting some stupid phone call lol

Exjuliemccoy's picture

It will be interesting to see what your ex does now that you're gone. Often we SMs are a buffer between father and skids, absorbing all the blame while bearing the brunt of skids' poor behavior. Once we remove ourselves from the equation, daddee gets an unimpeded view of the ugly little darlings, who often turn on dear ole dad. Please let us know if/when you hear from him; I'm curious to know what he says. 

mapap's picture

I anticipate exactly what you said. Now that there is no one to play "mommy" and clean, cook, and take care of the house, things should start to get really interesting. I do anticipate hearing from him at some point in the next month. I guarantee it!

mapap's picture

It's been almost a week of peace and quiet and I can say I am so very happy. I discovered the little catty girls blocked me on social media, which i could really care less, I hadn't done so yet just because I had been so busy. Additionally, I stopped at the house to grab the mail and noticed EVERYTHING I had given them to use in their space was out in the garage waiting to go to good will. So I sent there dear old daddy a text. I said the next time you wanna blame me for your piece of sh&t kids, just remember how THEY wanted me out of your life so badly they blocked me and got rid of all the things i gave them out of the kindness of my heart. He told me well i didn't let them decorate anything. I said thats so funny, if I had taken all my stuff out of the space they used you all would have thought i was a selfish jerk. So good luck with that. I gotta be honest, that really really burned my a$$. So I was here to vent. That just solidifies that I want nothing to do with these disasters of children he has or his tolerance for them. 

mapap's picture

Hi everyone, so I got a phone call from my ex or whatever I am calling him these days. Just to "check in". I tried not to blurt out how happy I am but I'm sure it came across that way. He told me when the middle gremlin was home for thanksgiving it was a bit "hectic" which to me is code word for a sh&t show. So things are already breaking down.. no surprise. Additionally their bio mom scum that she is has decided to emancipate herself from the kids. She wants nothing to do with then which basically stems from not wanting to pay for anything anymore. What a disaster. I feel a bit bad because their mother is such a loser but I feel now he will feel even more sorry for them and spoil them more. Good news for me.. I don't have to be there! Alleluia 

Elea's picture

Bit of a rant: These Guilty Disney Dad's are so dumb. I always think there are enough lonely women with low self-esteem (or they don't see the warning signs until it is too late) that these men can scoop up a new target pretty quickly. It seems the available middle aged woman to man ratio is off balance. 
If he continues to allow his young adult mini-wives rule his life he will end up destroying every relationship he has and alone even when he is with someone. Shame

mapap's picture

Yes he absolutely will. I'm not even sure why he called me. I mean why bother? And clearly u are telling me things were "hectic" when the middle gremlin was home which is code for it was overwhelming and you had no control. I'm surprise he even told me that. I just shook my head, said thank you for calling and went back to my peace and quiet