How do I go on after 9 years of the same old crap???
I found this site today. I was desperately searching for some support in my step parenting situation and maybe a little insight or advice. So I'm going to try unloading on this page, for therapeutic relief. If you read this and I seem to be rambling on, I'm very sorry. I'm just trying to help myself feel better.
I've been with my husband now for 9 years. He is a wonderful man however, I'm finding that the things that I loved about him so much in the beginning are some of the reasons I have problems with his kids. The main issue is he is VERY non-confrontational, so he stands up to no one and if he tries he fails miserably.
Here is my story:
My husband was married to his ex for 9 years but also dated her for 7 years prior to that. Every so often she would leave him because she found "something better". Then in March 2003 she left him one last time because she was dating two other men. He was devastated once again but had no idea she had moved on before they split. April 24th he asked me out on our first date. Everything was fine, there were no issue. The ex was happily dating and we were so in love. He introduced me to the kids (three girls ages 11,10,8), still everything was fine. The kids like me . Life was good! Then the ex suddenly found herself single and alone again. To no avail she did everything she could to try to persuade my BF at the time to take her back. When that didn't work she started talking bad about me to the girls. These kids are loyal and they have no idea they are being manipulated so they come home (by this time they are living with their dad and I) and start war with me. They yell at their dad telling him that it's my fault they aren't a family. She told them their dad cheated on her with me (not true!). They proceed to break my things, steal my things, get in my face and yell at me (not something you want to do). I couldn't have a conversation with any of them without them turning my words around and telling their twisted version of what I've said to their mom. She would get mad and then it would start all over again. Now let me tell you their mom was never stable. She couldn't be responsible enough to keep a job and pay her bills to maintain a roof over her children's heads so they had to live in my house 24/7. Every time she found herself in a bad situation (or just for the heck of it) she would call my husband and beg him to take her back, even after we were married. Then she started making these phone calls with the oldest daughter present (with her).
I bent over backwards for those kids. I made sure they had what they needed and some of what they wanted. I made sure they had really good Christmas's and birthday's and yet they continued to abuse me day in and day out. Now I will tell you this. I was never the kind of person who wanted the credit for doing things, so when I would do things for them, they were always presented as if it was their dad and I and they would just assume it was just their dad. I didn't care. They were kids and it broke my heart to think that their parents couldn't do for them, so I did it (I'm a professional college educated woman and my husband is a blue collar worker. I make over 3 times what he makes). Plus I didn't think it was right for me to spend a bunch of money on my son while they sit and watch. Now, I'm not perfect and I've had my moments over the years where I’ve lost it. For instance, the day that the middle SD picked up my $2000 stereo system and dropped it on the floor and then stomped on it (in front of me). I about blew a gasket. I went into her room picked up her boom box and threw it as hard and as far as I could into the front yard. Aside from that, I've never done anything destructive. I've yelled at them after they yelled at me first and I kicked them all out of my house just this past March. Although I will say in my own defense that I am at my breaking point. They are all adults now and I don't have to put up with their behavior in my house so now I don't have to. I now have key marks down the side of my car.
The event that lead me to this blog is that once again I said something they turned around but the oldest has been on a rampage to destroy me since March (the event that lead to them being kicked out of my house). So she is running around to everyone in their family trying to get them "on her side". She's making up stuff to make me look terrible. So last night my husband gets a text message from the oldest with a picture attached. Someone took a picture of one of my FB conversations with one of my family members where I was talking about how the SD’s think I am the most horrible step mom in the world.. I said exactly this “You know I'm the step monster from hell... or so they say... F***'em they are the only ones hurting cause they aren't hurting me”. The eldest’s take on it was that I said “fuck them” and that is just horrible. When my (and the hubby’s) take on it was that what I said was about me not them. Oh and by the way I said it during the time the issue in March was happening. Honestly, I think it’s my facebook page, I should be able to say whatever I want about anyone I want. I blocked them all (back in March) so if they happen to see something I said they would have to make a huge effort to find it, which is obviously what happened. So not only is she making a huge twisted deal out of something I said (again) about me but she’s going to great lengths to do it. Quite honestly, I’ve decided that I don’t need this kind of aggravation which is why I kicked all of them out of my house in March. I’m so over feeling like I’m being attacked all the time.
My frustration today isn’t really about what the kid is doing. It’s more about what my husband isn’t doing. Why didn’t he tell her to stop trying to start crap? I guess what I’m really feeling is if he doesn’t feel strongly enough about me to tell her to stop then he must be in agreement with her and at this point maybe we should part ways. I really hate this!!!
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That is a long time to live
That is a long time to live like that. I guess in some ways you have to ask yourself when its your turn to live the way you want to.
I found being single freeing. There are moments where its difficult of course, but once you get on the path and restart your own life - its amazing how wonderful it can be!!
My DH is also VERY non-confrontational - and indecisive - so worried all the time about disappointing someone - yet I do see the last one on the block he is worried about. He says its because I am strong so I guess that means I can deal best with being shit on.
He tried hard, but folds like a deck of cards when it comes to the kids. My skids are young, SS6 was caught stealing and planning to steal again from a store on the weekend - last night I tried to talk to him about it, he said, well I don't want to mention it to him, I don't want him to feel too bad. SIGH
You have to do what is right for you now. You have been doing what is right for everyone else and it hasn't worked.
Urgh 3familiesin1 I answered
Urgh 3familiesin1 I answered your blog on that incident. Cant believe your DH doesnt want to make your ss feel "that bad" by mentioning it again :jawdrop: The whole point of addressing it IS to make them feel bad, so they dont do it again FFS!!
I recall an occasion whereby I had had a tit full of my ss constantly ignoring me and being rude, he did something which I got really annoyed about. I just had surgery so am guessing I reacted worse because of that and because I had put up and shut up with too much. My DH was concerned ss could hear me being annoyed about what ss did because he was crying. My response? GOOD I am glad he can hear me because I am damn angry with him. He should be upset, hes upset me...
My DH soon slunk off as he knows when to leave me alone. As Phoebe in friends says "For God sake man dont anger it..."
Anyway, sorry back to the OP.
I think you need to decide what you want to do. When I finally had enough of my own situation I knew I had nothing to lose, especially since I considered leaving my DH. So actually I detached from ALL of the toxic people causing me stress, meaning I didnt want to hear about anything to do with them even from DH. Changed my telephone number, ignored all messages to me and blocked them all. Informed them if they continued I would report them for harassment, so kept all evidence of the abuse/threats...I then did report them. I am in the UK, and here we can make intelligence reports whereby the police keep your reports until you want to prosecute that person causing you harassment..maybe thats an option so you can warn that person, inform your DH and then if they continue you have given them heads up so no crying when you prosecute them.
My DH didnt like much of the above and did try to force the issue, but I just kept walking away from him while saying "I have told you my position. End of story. If you refuse to protect me, then I will. Its my right."
You dont HAVE to have anything to do with these horrible people, no one can force you to. If your DH's family bring it up, then make your excuses and leave their homes. Avoid them. Or if they are at your home, change the subject politely, if they continue to come back to the situation then tell them "sorry I really dont want to discuss this. These "children" are now adults and I have endured years of them destroying my things, my life because their mother wanted DH. That is not my fault. I have made an effort for years, but I am no doormat and enough is enough. They wish to continue as they are? Thats their right, however its my right not to condone it any longer. Anyway, end of story...So what have you been up to lately?..." and continue to do this. If DH's family refuse to "get it" then they arent invited around anymore.
I would stick to facts, be really nice and not emotive when saying anything to do with his nutty kids, because frankly when someone is that unhinged they end up looking like a ranting nut when they pursue their target so much they are prepared to either a) hack into your facebook account (as assuming this conversation you had was a message versus being on your wall?) or b) they are using one of your "friends" on fb account to read this or have been told by a "Friend". Personally I wouldnt say anything on my wall about them. I wouldnt acknowledge them, THAT will drive them crazy more than feeding their drama. Anything you do say, say it via personal message and to people you absolutely trusts. If possible I would find the leak.
Time to prioritise yourself and your sanity and completely cut these people out. Who cares if they want to badmouth you, have a prepared statement to say when you are told of their antics (by whoever) "oh really? Honestly, you would think they had better things to do than obsess about me....so how was your week?"
Put people right, by concise facts when you find out skids are spreading false rumours. There is no need to protect these adult's behaviour.
As for your DH, well you cant force him to change his behaviour, you can only change your reaction and how you have endured this. in all honesty I would be telling him "DH all the years your skids have targetted me so that BM can get you. They have made my life hell because of you and you cant even try and protect me? THAT disgusts me and tbh our marriage is falling apart and you dont care, not about me and my happiness..." then walk away.
Any chance of couples counselling?
Perhaps its time to schedule a nice holiday for yourself also, with your phones off (I wouldnt put up with hearing his kids ringing him in my presence...again I would be prioritising my sanity. Let him ring them if needs be, FAR away from you!).
P.S. Your DH should never have taken the thanks for the things you did. My DH has done this and I went nuts. WRONG.
Thanks for the wisdom. I
Thanks for the wisdom. I really wish I could turn my emotions off.
I'd avoid having
I'd avoid having conversations of that nature on FB. Instead have them in private messages or chats. My FB tends to be very superficial, I post what I don't care people see. But I rarely give insight to anything personal going on in my home. As far as the skids go, be happy they are out of your house & pay them no mind. Like you said "fuck them." Dealing with a DH with little or no backbone is tough. My DH is one of those passive people that will do whatever it takes to avoid confrontation. It isn't always the best method in dealing with kids or ex's. All I can say is feel free to vent on this board. I have been in my step situation for almost 12 years. Had I not found this board I'd be divorced by now. It is a great place to sound off, get feedback and cool down. Welcome & best of luck.
I know this is subject that
I know this is subject that there is a lot of debate on. However, I really feel like FB is my page and I should be able to say anything I want on it.. Honestly, it wouldn't matter what I said on it, they would make something out of it. I once posted something asking if anyone knew where I could find a step parent support group and OMG you would have thought I was killing them. I really try not to say anything about them. I just sometimes need to talk it out to feel better... Now that I've found this site I will try to keep my step parenting issue here... I feel safe and I also don't think they could find out who I am... YIPPEE!!!
You should unfriend them and
You should unfriend them and anyone that can take your posts back to them. My FB is locked down tight just for these reasons. My issues aren't my Skids, it's my evil in laws.
They were never my friends.
They were never my friends. I had to unfriend anyone I know that also knows them and had to block them all so they couldn't see anything I said or did...Luckily for me my MIL and FIL actually like me and are on to what the kids are doing..
Wow! It surpises me that a
Wow! It surpises me that a professional, college-educated person wouldn't be more careful about facebook postings. People have lost their jobs over Facebook postings. I constantly remind my students of this. I agree with the poster who suggested that delicate issues (and foul language) be mentioned only in private messages and chats.
Sorry that your DH won't take a stand for you. I have only been married 3 years, but as Bill would say, "I feel your pain."
This sounds like it's gone on
This sounds like it's gone on far too long for you to expect it to get better. The only thing that you can take consolation in is that you have now gotten them out of your house. Your husband has to be the one to step up to the plate...honestly, after 9 years of this are you surprised he hasn't done so?
Your only hope is that the separation of the kids from your home will temper the situation and allow your marriage to heal. Maybe over time your husband will come to realize that you are most important to him and that the kids are not. Unless he makes that realization, things will never get better and the kids (even as adults) will continue to work their ways on him against you. I'm sure that you have told him this, but if not it needs to be said to him. His passiveness is an endorsement of their behavior and bitterness towards you.
Probably the best thing to do is to get into marital counseling over this issue. An independent and objective voice may be the only thing that turns your husband around. He needs to "man up" to you and you need to feel his "manhood" in protecting you from the kids.
You are preaching my sermon
You are preaching my sermon sister!! I tell him all the time that people only act the way you allow them to act. So if he stood his ground she would stop. I've kind of made this seem like he never stands up for me and that isn't true. He will get to a point where he has had enough and he will blow his top at them. He just cools down and then doesn't stick to his guns. That's why they get by with it. I think he and I are definitely going to have a long talk about it whether he like it or not. Aside from the kid issues... he and I get along great. I've never met a man like him. He is truly a wonderful man and I would be a fool to think I could leave him and find anyone better. I just need to know that he has my back, no matter what... and I don't feel like that right now.
He says I can take care of
He says I can take care of myself just fine because I am strong. The problem is that I've been fighting this battle by myself for the last 9 years and I don't know if I can be strong anymore. They have left me virtually defenseless. If I say anything to the skids then it's me starting it.. and I'm just supposed to "leave it alone"... it's in my nature to defend myself. To top it off, I don't really feel like this is my battle... all of this is their BM's problem. If she'd just wake up and look past her own nose enough to see that all she is accomplishing is making her kids miserable all would be great. I thought a parent's job was to protect their kids, not send them to fight the parent's self-serving battles. What a horrible excuse for a mom!
I cannot agree with you on
I cannot agree with you on this post. These are now young adults and they are responsible for their own actions and behavior. Sure, the BM may have started all of this but the kids are old enough now to own this as their behavior. The BM may not be the best mother, but neither is the father (your DH) who has allowed this to go on for such a long time.
I don't intend to sound mean or insensitive, but quit blaming the BM and start dealing with those who are the actual responsible parties to this mess...your DH and his kids. Like I previously said, his silence is paramount to justification of their behavior towards you! As a husband and father, I am livid that he has done this to you.
Thanks. They were never
Thanks. They were never taugh to be responsible for their own actions. They listened to their mom blame everyone else in the world for her problems so they do the same thing. I know I'm blaming her again. You are right he had something to do with it to. I wasn't "allowed" to be a parental figure to them. They know (because of how my son turned out) that I would have never put up with the crap they pulled. If I could have disciplined them they would probably be different.... but was told that it wasn't my place because they weren't my kids. So now we have 3 grown monsters who think it's grown up behavior to act like they do and that I'm the one who needs to grow up... Point taken though. I know he is a huge contributor to the situation.
Since you didn't ask for
Since you didn't ask for advice/comments about the step daughters, I wont go there.
You mention that your DH is non-confrontational and that is the reason he hasn't said anything, but you need to communicate to him how his silence is affecting your relationship. Let him know that you're not asking that he not have a relatinship with his daughters but that he needs to let them know that he cares about you and them but when they do the crap they're doing that he won't stand around and allow it to hurt someone he cares about deeply. Just try to communicate to him how important it is to you that he shows them that the two of you are united in this and that he doesn't have to give up his relationship with them but that their own actions will dictate how the interactions will be between he and the SDs.
Basically, communicating with your DH is the most important thing to try and help right now. Since he has that type of 'calm' demeaner, he will most likely respond more positive if you can have a calm discussion but still let him know how much you are hurting becuase of his silence. I agree with the above poster that said he is not showing you love and respect by his silence and that this is affecting your relatinship and feelings about him.
Please, feel free to say
Please, feel free to say whatever you want about the SD's. I'm so at a loss I don't know which way I'm going..
I am not an authority on
I am not an authority on dealing with rebellious adult children (mine are still in the teenage somewhat rebellious stage). But, I have friends who have been a blended marriage for about 30 years. The wife of that couple was the mom to her husband's children (like your situation, the BM wasn't responsible). However, the BM inflicted PAS upon the children even though she wasn't the one raising them. This continued on to adulthood.
My friend (I'll call her "Alice") was emotionally abused by the kids as teens and into early adulthood. But, she kept to the high road and didn't fall prey to vindictive behavior. To his credit, Alice's husband stood by her and they eventually forced the kids out of their home and onto their own.
Once that happened, the kids basically cut off all contact with both of them for quite a few years. After those many years passed, the kids finally began to occasionally make contact with them. It became more frequent to the point that they apologized for their toxic behavior. She says that they have finally accepted her and have even called her "mom". She says that one even thanked her for her continued love and support when the kids didn't deserve to be treated with such love and mercy.
She cries every time she tells that story. For all of the pain and suffering that she went through at the hands of those kids, she loves them now and they love her back.
I guess what I'm saying is this regarding the kids...maybe they will come around one of these days. Only time will tell. But, you can feel good about yourself by the way that you've handled yourself in the face of great adversity. In time, maybe they will see it, too (possibly whenever they have rebellious kids of their own).
I think the thing that hurst
I think the thing that hurst me the most is that I thought we were already past all this stuff.. When BM remarried about about two and a half years ago we were happily living a wonderful life. These girls even told me the loved me and they (tearfully) were very sorry for everything they did to me in the past. Then BOOM one day BM decides she isn't happy with her new hubby and all of a sudden I'm the bad guy again.. only this time the attachs are longer and harder. It's like they are driven to ruin my life and my marriage now. I'm not vendictive. I won't retaliate (as much as I think I'd like to). I know the high road is the place for me. The only thing I can hope for is that Karma works for me this time and they end up in a situation exactly like mine (or worse). Then they might truly understand. I just can't believe that they have no conscience about their behavior.. They are basically attaching a defenseless woman. I guess genetics really do have a lot to do with behavior.
OMG I cant believe your dh
OMG I cant believe your dh isnt saying anything to these POS's. Yes it started off as BM's fault for putting all the poison in their heads about you BUT they are now of the age where they are responsible for their own actions. With your dh not saying a word about it, in their eyes he is condoning their appaling behaviour against you. I would take action and now.