confused, hurt and frustrated
dh and i were both off this morning, and ran around together doing errands, having breakfast, and just talking. it felt pretty good and i almost felt a sense a relaxation from all of the tension recently. we came home, got our coffee and sat down to talk. he mentioned that he had to talk with me about something important, and its gone on too long without addressing it. this is how it went (for the most part)
dh: i need to talk to you about ss17's food issues. he is underweight, and you know that he doesnt really eat unless you make a big dinner
me: yes, i know, its been an issue for a long time
dh: yes, well we talked about it and ss17 says its because of the orange juice thing
me: what orange juice thing?
dh: you know......two years ago, the orange juice thing
me: when i bought a gallon of orange juice and he drank the entire thing in one day and i asked him to be considerate of others, and have one glass a day?
dh: yes
me: he doesnt eat because of that?
dh: he's scared
me: scared of what?
dh: that youre going to tell him that again
me: i totally do not understand, where are you going with this?
dh: well his nutrition is important so i was thinking that "we" will buy our own groceries and put them in the old fridge in the garage, and you can buy youre own groceries and keep them in the house fridge. everything is separate
me: dh, i work at an organic market. i get tons of free fruits and vegetables, plus a huge discount on everything else. it doesnt make sense for you to do that
dh: yes i know, but he doesnt like what you buy and plus he's scared he's going to eat too much
me: you've got to be kidding me
dh: no
me: so all of your talk about wanting to bring us together as a family results in this? i feel like a line has been drawn in the sand and i've been shoved to the other side for telling a 15 year old to be more considerate?
dh: i'm just trying to fix things so that everybody is happy
i'm sitting here feeling like some kind of monster. i'm not a horrible person. i've tried to bite my tongue, look the other way, not care that sd has stolen from me or that ss destroyed my garden. i've tried to stand by dh on his choices, encouraged him to stand up to bm and FINALLY get some child support (which has never happened). i've listened to their problems, helped them with homework, driven them to school, paid for their school fees and clothes, and done all of the things that bm never has. i've backed off in the last year because i was tired of being the maid, chauffeur, laundry person, chef, therapist, and teacher, but not having any say so in any kind of structure or discipline.
but because i said something two years ago, ss is refusing to eat and this is my fault? i just sat there and started to cry. i didnt know how to respond or what to say. dh followed me around the rest of the day before he left for work saying "i love you, what's wrong??"
i need to think about things. i am more unsure of myself than ever. am i taking this all wrong or too hard? is this weird? how come i cant even tell what a "normal" family is like anymore? all i know is that i feel hurt and confused and frustrated.
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I just have to leave a
I just have to leave a comment. I am dealing with the same issue...no advice but I know how you feel. it is like having 2 circle...him and his family in one and you all alone in the other. I deal with this daily and have for almost 5 years. My 8yo SD is manipulative and conniving when DH is around and he can't see it. She feels she can talk to me any way she wants and that is ok. If not careful you start getting bitter and resentful no matter how hard you try not too. Wish I had some advice. Being a Step is hard is all i know!!
Right off the bat, I sense he
Right off the bat, I sense he doesn't support you, because anybody could see that this is a phase the SS is going through, and blaming you is likely a way to get between you and your DH. Very unsupportive. Let him do that and disengage. You acted like a normal person, I assume, and that is overlooked.
Let him do his own groceries, hell, if he wants to go halfway with groceries, why not everything else? It's stupid.
To be defensive about it would make him (them) right. You will feel less hurt and frustrated if you disengage. Possibly even more independent.
Good luck
You are not wrong to be
You are not wrong to be upset!! I would be upset too if he told me we're going to have seperate groceries. I would think this is real life not college roomates. What about instead of seperate groceries tell SS17 or have DH tell SS that he can eat whatever, but if it's in excess ie a gallon of oj in a day, he (SS) has to go out and purchase another gallon for the house. That way he will take responsibility for his actions. Another thought is have him have input into the meals, maybe give him a day to buy groceries and cook the meal.
Big Hugs!!
Ok, if it were me I would say
Ok, if it were me I would say Yippee! Let him buy his own food and stock the fridge. Take advantage of it, don't resent it. Chances are after a month of this he will be asking you to do the shopping again because it's "just too hard". Honestly, I would shake his hand, give a big smile and say "Great idea honey!"
I think both sides have
I think both sides have points. However, I would like to say that this is just game-playing on SS's side - AGAIN -- wah wah she scolded me now I'm on hunger strike? A bit much isn't it? No, it is not normal. A normal dad would tell him not to be a hog. He only eats if you make a big dinner? DH is going to take that over. Should be interesting.
You are not a monster - the
You are not a monster - the whole reason for him not eating is completely ridiculous and DH should have never even approached you on it - he should have talked SS a long time ago and straightened him out. Almost seems like SS went on a hunger strike to prove a point to you which is so stupid because you did not even know it was your issue.
If this has been an issue from 2 years ago - the kid should have spoken up before - are you sure that the being underweight is not from a medical condition or using drugs - just saying - most teenage boys I know would not care what their parents said about eating and would just eat.
And it is utter crap that Dh waited this long to talk to you about it - first off tell him to grow a set and second off I know you were not telling him he could not eat for 2 years - the whole conversation would have just pissed me off. I say let DH buy his food as someone mentioned above he will get tired of it and it will go back on you. Husbands seem to think that running the house is easy until they have to do it.
Speaking of cutting off one's
Speaking of cutting off one's stepnose to spite one's stepface, what a little jerk!
If this were me, I'm afraid I would have no choice but to tell DH that if he went through with this, he would have to make other arrangements for SS17 when DH was not available to parent him. As in drop his manipulative little ass off at daycare or hire a babysitter.
That is NOT bringing anyone together as anything. It's terrorism, and in YOUR house. Unexcusable.
I just read this to my SS12.
:jawdrop: I just read this to my SS12. Even HE thinks this is ludacrous. This from the kid that I have to limit to one package of Pop Tarts per day because if he had his way he would eat ONLY Pop Tarts and not have a balanced diet. I'm so proud of him for acknowledging that it's because I CARE if he is a puny pantywaist, not because I'm hoarding Pop Tarts for the apocalypse.
I'd run with his idea
I'd run with his idea actually:
While you're keeping the food in separate fridges, make sure you have your own cupboard. And the next time the skids are there, make sure your DH cooks THEIR meals with THEIR food, and you make your own. Be sure you clean up after yourself ONLY - your DH can wash their dishes/tidy up after their meal. And don't forget dessert! I'd buy myself a BIGASS cheesecake, and right when they're all sitting aroud, pull it out of YOUR fridge, cut a nice slab for YOURSELF, and eat every.last.crumb. }:) I'd do this for a few days, and I don't think the "theirs and yours" fridge will last too long.....
But that's just my opinion, and I'm bitchy like that
This is such BS. SS is
This is such BS. SS is obviously trying to be manipulative and get DH to side with him on something that is (imo) utterly foolish.
I wouldn't allow the separate food thing to happen. We are a family and have to be considerate of everyones feelings. In my case SD12 has decided not to come anymore because her silly games of trying to wriggle in between dh and I were not working.
Families that are supportive of each other do not have separate fridges and DH's that are supportive of their wives wouldn't go along with that.
i went for a walk. have some
i went for a walk. have some red wine. talked to my sister for a short time. thought a LOT about what dh said. read your responses and please please do not apologize for being blunt. i need your perspective and it helps so much to see things in black and white, as opposed to how murky things get at our house.
i do not like this idea one bit. it gives in to ss17's manipulation and allows dh to continue to baby him. it reinforces that i'm the bad guy. it separates our house even further. it forces us to spend money we don't have. it puts me back in a place where i have to walk on eggshells around a 17 year old so i dont upset dh. it is setting us up for further arguments when we nickel and dime each other to death when we try to make dinner. and finally, its ridiculous. the whole thing is simply ridiculous and i'm not going to be a part of this.
i am angry. it feels like everything from the past 8 years is bubbling to the surface and i am really angry. my sister started laughing when i told her all of this and said "really? seriously? that kid has been skinny since the day you met him, but now you've caused him to have an eating disorder? wow, dh is so freaking terrified of losing this kid, that he is resorting to this??"
she's right, she totally nailed it. dh IS terrified. i spent HOURS researching therapists to find one who a) specializes in blended families and b) we can afford. i sent the links to dh and asked him to choose one, and i will call for an appt. he never did it. i'm fairly certain that he loves me-truly honestly does, but i think he's more afraid of his kids. i dont really know where that leaves me in this, and thats a scary place to be.
ps i DO love the cheesecake idea. i will do that anyways
I also think the 'ours' and
I also think the 'ours' and 'yours' fridge is incredibly symbolic and very negative. It's divisive and the crazy idea of a desperate man who has lost touch with common sense. What's next, a cabin in the yard for DH and SS to sleep in together, and you sleep in the house so you don't have to have any conflict over chores? Maybe separate gardens so no arguments over plants being ruined by games. Hey why not get separate houses, oh wait, why not get a divorce. A therapist is a great idea, I hope to God your DH gets on board with the idea.
the separation he is creating
the separation he is creating is what is upsetting me the most. if i step back and look at the big picture.....the fact that bm has suddenly shown up again and is calling ss17 constantly with her "family first!" crap, in addition to ss17 graduating this year, along with our conflicts about step parenting has to be scaring dh to death. i feel like my normally sane husband has lost his mind. however, i'm not going to be pushed aside from his fear. this is ridiculous, whats next? ss17 not wearing shoes any longer because i told him to stop going through the carpeted house with his muddy boots on?
i love dh very much and i want to reassure him, but i cant do that if he is alienating me. and i wont. we havent talked about all of this because we've been on completely different work schedules the past few days. dh has been texting me like mad saying "i love you, please talk to me". but how can i talk to him when any and all skid conversations automatically translate into "i hate his kid" ??
he def knows because the last
he def knows because the last time we talked, it was about the food thing, and i was crying, and he had to leave for work. he kept asking then what was wrong and saying "i love you" and i told him i really needed to think about all of this.
he switches back and forth from nights to days, and sometimes we dont see each other for a few days, especially if my schedule really clashes with his. (he's at work right now)
i havent answered his texts at all.....i'm still at a point where i'm hurt and angry and not ready to discuss this, especially by text. i want to sort things out in my head and be clear. i did see him for a minute this morning before i left for work and i told him i love him.
got a glass of wine as soon as i walked in the door tonight. thanks, blender
i "keep complaining" because
i "keep complaining" because this is a place to vent, sort out feelings, give and get advice and just talk about our lives as step parents. i feel like i have lost myself along the way and am trying to find myself again. this forum is so very valuable to me, because i get the support, information, and shared stories that i need, to help make decisions and move forward. its a slow process.
i sent the therapist information to dh and he has not responded, for whatever reasons he may have. but it IS a step forward on my part, and as long as i continue to take steps forward, i am good with that. continuing to share stories, listen, hopefully give good advice to and with other step parents is part of that process. are you a step parent, sueu?
did this guy really lock you
did this guy really lock you out of your bedroom before your birthday? or was that made up? because i am not sure how you could stay there if he did that...
yes, he did do that. ss tore
yes, he did do that. ss tore up my garden, i confronted him on it, dh sided with him and suddenly, no birthday present and i'm locked out of our bedroom. although we have a guest bedroom, what dh did was wrong, and he knows that. the "always taking the side of ss" is why we have issues, and why i'm on here. no relationship is perfect. if i listed my dh's good qualities, they would be a mile long. but when it comes to our skid situation, it gets ugly. which is why i'm taking everything into consideration.
wow!!! i would confront the
wow!!! i would confront the kid and be like "is this really the reason for all this? " and get his story... ur husband should be more considerate on ur part by realizing how much uve done and stick up for u over something so little, not against u!
Ridiculous! your ss is full
Ridiculous! your ss is full of crap-I just cant believe your dh buys into it-i would confront dh and ask him if he truly believes that one comment you made 2 years ago about him drinking excessive juice is responsible for his eating issues. It's just the blame game again. Let's blame sm for every possible thing because it's just so convenient. I get onto my kids ALL the time for drinking/eating all of something right away. In fact I rarely buy juice period because my kids will drink it all in like an hour.
My ss, 12, hardly speaks to me (basically only when spoken to) but dh will occassionally try and say it's because he's afraid that I wont respond to him. I confront this bs immediately as soon as he says it. Really? SS is afraid I wont answer despite the fact that each time I see him I start conversations with him? Or maybe he thinks that because I've directly encouraged him to speak to me and that I want to hear about him and his life? Whatever. I think your ss at 17 is old enough for you to confront himself as well. I would go to him and let him know how sorry that you are that he is so scared. (you would think he would be embarrassed to be such a wuss). And that you didn't know that he was so frightened that you might ask him not to drink or eat something excessively. Assure him that you never wanted him to be so scared, frightened,and terrified but that you only didnt want him to become ill from overeating/drinking and that you also wanted to make sure that there was enough for everyone. You could also suggest that he get some professional help for his fear issues.
I would think if you are really over the top-he will feel like an idiot-which he is indeed acting like. And perhaps that will shut him up.
agreed actually. not crazy.
agreed actually. not crazy. just not in understanding of what is "normal" behavior. this is not in the range of normal. no way, no how. not for ANYONE.
Grayskies - this is yet
Grayskies - this is yet another example that you need to point out to your SO about helping SS reach adulthood in a way that won't alienate him from other people. For example, some kids go to college and live with other kids where they share food or all put $$ in a kitty for food and buy communal groceries. Some kids go to college and buy their own food, and everyone eats their own. Either way, SS needs to learn the value of what is purchased, how to make it last due to budgetary concerns, and how to respect communal property.
That's not a skid living at home lesson. That's a life lesson. In my non-college-educated opinion, I truly believe that you need to stay the course of "every thing I am trying to correct this skid on is from the point of his future well-being, his future relations with other people, including co-workers, girlfriends, wives, etc." You really can't be accused of not having his best interests at heart if you stay consistent with that message.
As far as your SO locking you out of your bedroom on your birthday - that was heartbreaking to read, and I am so sorry you went through that. I have to say that your SO sometimes acts like a spoiled child, and it will be difficult to get his children to learn any other lesson, if he continues to treat you that way. I'm sorry that happened to you. I really wish it could be better. DH here used to shut down. He wouldn't speak to me, if he was angry and he would pull away. I am the complete opposite. I need the blow-up, the argument and then it's over and move on. We each had to adjust our disagreement styles. I am thinking that you and SO may need to work on that together as well.