Well he already signed the one on her FIRST mortgage because it was 6k in the hole and "Your kids will be on the street if you don't". He is on the hook for that shit for THIRTY-FIVE years. It also would have left a foreclosure on his credit, so he was screwed either way. This is her SECOND mortgage. It will save her all of a hundred dollars, but "Your FAMILY needs a place to live. WE need this hundred dollars". She is a f*cking master manipulator. She can rot on the curb for all I care.

Yeah, you are right. His lawyer said the first step is getting stuff in writing from her. It actually already says in their order that neither parent will trash the other one to or in front of the children. You know, the rules don't apply to her! She is "special" and "chosen" and "entitled". I'd like to give her what she's "entitled" to.

Thanks:)

UPDATE: He told her the first condition was to apologize to me for threatening me with a restraining order and she said "No", and he said "Okay, then this conversation is over". Now she is sending bullshit trying to convince him to sign it. She is so narcissistic and selfish.

AHHHH!!! Exactly what I say, but "their lives will be disrupted" and "it is THEIR house, with their rooms". It is so f*cking dysfunctional. The guilt trip is long with many pit stops and souvenirs. And she has the kids PASed into believing that he is the biggest d-bag on the planet because he doesn't give her the $4200 a month he was giving her. He believes that her losing her house and them having to move would send a message to his kids that he doesn't care about them and has chosen a woman, or as two of them have stated in the past, "pu$$y" over them. It is the most messed up situation, ridden with guilt at every turn. This woman is a master manipulator.

Besides that, there is the practical aspect. Two of them are in high school and one of them is in 8th grade and will be entering high school, and we live 6 hours from them. They do have rooms at their Grandmother's house though. They have their OWN ROOMS. This is the same woman (their Grandmother) who called me a horrible mother in an e-mail to me because I let my mother take care of my Autistic child (after leaving an abusive relationship) so that I could finish school. I didn't ask my ex for more money. I did what I needed to to keep my son's life as stable as possible. ME. These people are dysfunction's incestuous hillbilly siblings for sure.

No! It isn't illegal. She is a raging Bible-thumping Fundamentalist (when it suits her). Evidently FDH and me cannot swear at all, drink so much as a glass of wine, or yell at all. Stuff like that.

What he meant when he told her that was that she needed to understand that I am quite a bit younger than her and where she is making this enormous deal out of the fact that I told her off and used 6 cuss words in the e-mail, that it is not the end of the world. It is the end of HER world because she has isolated herself and tried to isolate her children from this annoying thing called REALITY. Reality says that sometimes people call you on things that you do wrong. She is so entitled she cannot even understand ANYONE calling her on anything that she does wrong. She is used to people being just as much of a judgmental lunatic as she is, or just rolling over to her demands. When met with opposition she wants to get a "restraining order".

I have had three lawyers (one my own mother) tell me that she WILL NOT get the restraining order. As far as I know she hasn't applied for one. He is trying to get her to admit that she is asinine for even suggesting such a thing. I have never threatened or laid a hand on her in any way ever. She has no merit.

The other stuff is already included in their order. He will be getting anything she agrees to in writing and the order will be amended to include it. It is important to mention here that their jurisdiction is in Louisiana, which is under Napoleonic law. Their court system is vastly different than everywhere else in a lot of ways.

Also, he is doing the Skype because he doesn't want to send her anything in writing at this point because she has been allowing his children to read the e-mails. Anything she agrees to on Skype, she will need to send to him in writing and then he will contact his lawyer.

You are right though, I do not want him to sign this, not even a little.

And you are also right in that I know that he needs to say enough is enough and quit giving in to her demands. She will just demand more and he will just feel guilty and the cycle will never end.

That is the thing, we can't. THAT SAID, he will no longer be putting anything in writing and that will get really annoying for her because when she calls, even if the kids are with us, he rarely answers the phone. Just tells the kids... Call your mother and see what she wants. When they aren't with us he waits for her to leave a message and if it isn't about one of the kids and an emergency, he doesn't call back. She is one of those people who can talk about HERSELF for hours where you cannot get a word in edge wise. She should definitely join over-sharers anonymous. F*ck join, she should be the freaking President. She has no idea what the concept of reciprocated conversation even is.

Anyway, Skype attempt number two should be tonight. I wish he would get it over with, the "anticipation" is stressing me out. She has e-mailed him like three times today (he has already told her he will not be putting anything in writing) AND she e-mailed ALL of his e-mail accounts this morning. LOSER.

I love that too. Unfortunately my FDH doesn't see it that way. He says that he knows his kids (military has moved them a bunch) are done leaving their friends and starting over. Therefore, it is his job to make sure they are provided for, and if a casualty of that is that it benefits her, so be it. His kids shouldn't have to suffer because their mom has no ambition. FML.