Help!!!!!
DH and I are on 50/50 court ordered custody schedule. I had a birthday party to attend today (our week starts tomorrow). DH went to SD soccer game and was coming to the party a little late. SD knowing the party was happening because it was on the calendar and she had already thrown a hissy fit about having a game, asked DH if she could stop by and say hi to everyone after her game. DH says its not my decision you aren't supposed to go with me. (IMO he should have flat out said no). DH says goodbye and leaves the game. He comes to the party and lo and behold 5 minutes later SD walks into the party. BM just dropped her off and left her there. Apparently she asked her mom if she could go. And apparently BM said yes. She didn't contact us to see if it was okay. Just dropped her off and left. I'm livid. How do you handle this situation where BM just calls the shots. My family and I make a lot of plans and have annual trips. One trip is determined by my fathers employer so we have no control when it's scheduled for. It is not on our week in July and BM already told her she can go without finding out if she's even invited. I'm at the end of my rope with this shit.
Dad should have driven her
Dad should have driven her RIGHT back to her mothers place.
As for the vacation, just tell her the numbers for the trip are not up to you or DH and as this is on her mother's week it works out well as this will involve a business trip as well and you are sure her mother will have something planned.....
Thanks for all the responses.
Thanks for all the responses. I apologize for not being clear I was ranting & in a long drawn out discussion with DH about this. I wish I could use the business trip excuse but its a company picnic at an amusement park. Its a day trip were no really business will be done. My SD is 10. I transferred all the activities in my phone calendar and destroyed my physical calendar (which is much more helpful to visualize) to avoid her crashing anymore events. It is hard because we do Sunday dinners at my parents house. My younger sisters talk about plans every Sunday. It's hard because I don't want to silence them or have them running around to whisper behind SD's back.
Dh needs to tell bm that she
Dh needs to tell bm that she needs to contact you all before dropping her off where ever and whenever. This is so you are prepared for her and not trying to get hings done at the last second. Honestly I find you very lucky to be able to spend so much time with your sd. My ss is 5 and the last time I saw him was July of last year and before that February of last year. He lives in a completely different state and it makes things very hard. I honestly can not tell if you are mad cause you get her so much and even when it is not scheduled or not getting a warning. Maybe you should ask yourself that.
I'm mad that SD is beginning
I'm mad that SD is beginning that phase that she runs behind everyone's back to get her way & BM facilitates it. (Not saying its bad. It's typical for a kid. I remember asking my Dad to do something, getting a no & trying to get a yes out if my mom). It needs to stop because she's only 10 now, and its minor stuff. She should not have crashed the party. She has already asked BM to shave her legs and got a no. She told me it happened. Then turned around and asked DH and he said yes, SM will show you how. I had to explain to DH and SD that BM already said no and no is no. She's not going to circumvent BM on my watch. At 10 she's not smart enough to know not to tell my BM already said no. We're getting to the point where she's knowing how to get her way and it needs to be nipped before its seriously things like boyfriends, sex, and alcohol. (Well BM let's me drink, when she doesn't.)
Thanks for the response. I
Thanks for the response. I was ranting in my post. The issue is when SD did this to BM, chose to want to live with DH full time, BM flipped out & filed for custody (we were operating on an EOWE no custody order schedule prior). She claimed to DH that she can't make her own decisions, so we have to get a custody order so she can't do this to either one of us. Makes sense. The problem is we do the right thing. Custody order was just signed by the judge. It's 50/50 and any family events will be accommodated by the other party with advanced notice and time proposals on how long we will have SD and when the other party's custody will resume. SD runs the show with BM. She called during our last custody week and SD told her cancel my hair appointment, I want InNeedOfGuidance's mom to cut it. (My mom is a hairdresser). She didn't ask me or my mother if that was even a possibility. I demanded that DH contact BM and make sure that this was okay because it's not SD's decision to make. BM told him it was okay, but I didn't get the impression that it was so we agreed that if she came back with long hair then BM was really okay with the free haircut and my mom was already on board to do it. BM cut her hair this week, which tells me she wasn't okay with it but won't say no to SD. I know she doesn't like when these things happen to her, and I do everything in my power to make sure she's not unilaterally overruled by SD. I just want the same courtesies. She knows how it feels to be powerless. SD has taken that power from her more than once. It doesn't happen on our watch. It shouldn't happen to DH & I on her watch.
As far as the trip, she went last year when it was her weekend. (First time in almost 5 years it fell on her weekend). She simply invites herself along and BM approves it. I agree that communication needs to be better between the two of them. I and DH have done everything reasonable to assure that SD isn't running behind BM's back and dictating . BM just allows it, and I don't know how to cope with it. To me, if BM left the soccer game and SD told me she was allowed to go to a party for BM's cousin, I would have told her no or confirmed with BM that it was true (otherwise BM would have stayed to take the kid with her). It is more a matter of not letting a 10 year old run the show. I live having her around and truly do love my SD. I always strive to do what's best for her or what's in her best interest. I was drinking at this birthday party. My whole family was drinking (not drunk as it was the middle of the day) but I don't drink in front if SD. I don't spend my time with her glorifying alcohol (I.e. drinking looks fun). I was certain she wasn't coming because we made no arrangements for her to be there. Sorry for another rant, I just feel that dropping her off whether she lied and said it was okay or not is irresponsible & perpetuates this manipulation that can not continue. That's why I place some blame on BM. She wouldn't appreciate us dropping her off when she had other plans because "SD said it was okay to go home and work on x." Luckily in this situation DH wasn't drinking, but we occasionally plan bonfire/drinking parties at my sister's where we park the car for the night & crash in the spare room where we have no way to return SD home if she's just dropped off. Additionally this custody order is enforceable by police, by order of the court, and there's no limits to BM, she called the police without a custody order before. Therefore just to protect ourselves, this cannot happen.
Thanks. I've removed my
Thanks. I've removed my calendar from the house so she can't find out when events are happening without her. In this case SD wasn't begging us to go, in fact she didn't mention going at all. I guess I'm just figuring out BM is a loose cannon because prior to this we were EOWE and we made had always made all arrangements in advance. Now that I know I will try my best to protect information. DH and I have to develop plans for these scenarios in the future. It's hard to not have control and decision making power. I'm going to have to buck up and let something's roll off. That's going to be an interesting transition.
Eeehhhh the girl is 10. I
Eeehhhh the girl is 10. I cannot imagine two bio parents arguing at a party over who has to take her. BM should have called first, DH should have called her on that immediately, but to have the child picked back up is going a bit too far IMO.
Loose lips sink ships. He needs to stop telling his plans to a 10 year old. My son is 11 and has no clue what goes on and who goes where-even after I tell him. Nor would I ever drop him off at a party without consulting my husband or some adult at the party. That is ridiculous.
And how on earth does BM know about your annual family trip? Why would anyone tell her that?
SD was nosing around my
SD was nosing around my hanging calendar looking at what events I had planned so she saw the trips were planned. I don't make plans for these trips. My parents do it. The one is scheduled by my dad's employer and the other is scheduled around my sister's college schedule (she's at a D-1 school do we schedule around home football games do she doesn't miss a game. The issue isn't so much whether we want SD there. Myself and my family include her in everything. The issue for me is more that she noses around and feels entitled to be included in everything. She threw a hissy fit (threw herself on the ground crying) that my mom, sisters, and I went to the movies during my youngest sisters spring break (which fell on he off week). We didn't include her (when she was at BM's). It's making me like I am right now. Had SD known about it BM would have just dropped her off. She knew about this party because of the calendar. She was reminded if it when DH dropped her off at BM's and was talking to SS20. SS works where they were throwing the party & DH was asking SS if he was going to be working. Nosy SD was listening in on the conversation. SD had ample time to ask to come, and we more than likely would have discussed it with BM and accommodated it. Instead she shows up to everyone drinking and there not being a chair at our table for her. I had already advised my extended family that she wasn't coming. So in essence a 10 year old crashed a 30th birthday party.
I meant we include her in
I meant we include her in things they would include their own grandchildren in. We don't include her in random lunches and spur of the moment plans. However when family vacations are planned they are planned with SD in mind. My extended family asked if she was coming. They all understand she's not my kid and not always around. The entitlement is new. We have gone to musicals or movies without her in the past (more mother daughter activities for me and my sisters) just recently she's exhibited these feelings of being entitled to be invited to those things too.
To clarify she's missed many
To clarify she's missed many birthday parties on my family's side. They always know there's a possibility that she will be there for parties (birthday, graduation) but always on our custody time. I never made special arrangements to have her for my sister's birthday, let alone my cousins. They ask for her because they don't know our custody schedule. It's all so new to me. She never cared when I had a birthday party on my calendar before.
BTW, you guys are great!!
BTW, you guys are great!! Thanks for taking the time to respond. This is just something I'm not used to. It's a newer development that comes with the age and I just don't know how to stop BM and/or SD from unilaterally making decisions that affect DH and I. Talking it through with you has made me realize it wasn't do much this particular situation so much as a breaking point from a build up of situations. Thank you! Anymore advise is greatly appreciated as BM or her attorney will have to get a letter expressing that this behavior without approval from the other party has to stop.