Setting up the dreaded SD/SGK visit
Sigh. I knew it was going to be inevitable.
The dreaded time has come when I will have to spend SOME time with SD30, her DH and their two kids. We are taking a vacation to their location (several days driving) and my SO naturally wants to see them all. One of the grandkids he's only seen once and the other he hasn't met yet.
I disengaged from SD years ago and would like to keep it that way. Polite in person (when needed, and rare) but completely disengaged otherwise. I have not seen her in three years, thankfully.
We are not staying with SD and will have our own lodgings about 20 minutes away from her house. The trip to that area will be about five days in total.
Here's my plan and I hope it works. If anyone spots any flaws or has suggestions, let me know!
I will go to the initial "meet and greet" at their home when we first get there so I can do a little obligatory cooing over the two kids. (I have not met either of them.) I purchased a small toy/gift for each which is what I would do if visiting anyone else with kids BTW. I will sit there politely, not initiate any conversation and will make appropriate compliments about kids when warranted. Otherwise I plan to smile like Mona Lisa and say nothing.
I have friends in that area who are excited about my visit, really want to see me and I've already made tentative arrangements to meet with them. I have casually mentioned this to my SO, "Oh, Suzy wants to meet up with me. I will plan to get together with her while you spend that day visiting with SD and your grandkids!" What I have not told him yet is that this will probably extend to three friends - meaning three days I won't be around. At all.
My SO has set up one day at the end of our visit to go out to eat with her bunch for a birthday celebration. I will go to that. My plan is the initial visit, and the dinner at the end. Nothing more.
I'm just trying to figure out how to thwart my SO's eventual pouting that I won't be at his elbow the entire time while he gushes over his grandkids, worships SD and all the while, expects me to be nothing more than an audience to it all.
At this stage all I can think of is, "Oh, you get such little time with your daughter and your grandkids. Every minute is precious and you should focus on that. You don't need me there to take away even one minute of that time!"
Thoughts?
Sounds good to me!
Sounds good to me!
Me too!
Let's hope it works!!
I assume that you aren't able
I assume that you aren't able to tell him outright that while you support his relationship with his kids, you'd like to stay distant from them? Then yes, just go with the fact that you haven't seen these friends in years, and you'd like to spend time with them but don't mind a bit that he'd prefer to spend time with SD and her family.
Might want to sprinkle in a bit more contact if you can take it - like, I'll be with my friend all day but meet you guys for dinner one night, or whatever.
At one point, I did.
It was also a couple of years ago and something had come up and I just "clicked" at that point. I flat-out told him that he needed to face facts that his daughter does not welcome me and never will. It's been more than 15 years. I did say to her credit she has never been outride rude to me, nor I her, but that does not a relationship make. Her actions/inactions make it very clear that she has zero interest in me, could care less if I breathe another day or even acknowledge that I am important to HIM.
I compared it to how he treated her husband - although he doesn't really like the guy, he makes an effort to talk to him one-on-one and tries to get to know him better. He remembers his birthday, sends him cards. I said, "Why doesn't your DD do the same for me?" Of course, he had no answer to that and immediately went into martyr role and literally looked like he was going to cry. I honestly lost some respect for him after that. But I haven't brought it up again.
That's why I figure that two visits (initial and dinner) are about all that is needed. Plus, the logistics of where my friends live compared to where we are staying would make it difficult to commit to anything else on any given day.
Fair enough! I really don't
Fair enough! I really don't get why these men can't see their children even slightly objectively, even when given evidence such as you have said. Relationships are two-way streets.
My SS21 is not rude to me, and he liked me a lot when he was younger and coming for visits- but he makes no effort to have any kind of relationship with me other than a cordial one when we all get together a few times a year, and I make no effort with him. I sure as hell would not want to spend 5 days with him (but DH wouldn't either, thank god).
Y'know Tog,
sometimes I wonder what is worse: A skid who NEVER accepts you (for no reason) or one who actually liked you and then dismisses you. If he is 21, perhaps there is a chance he may come around again when he matures. At 21, I think there can still be a glimmer of hope.
When they get to my SD age -30s - it's game over. They are supposedly mature adults at that stage and neither they nor your relationship with them will change. I know that for a fact!
Fallback
If all else fails, your stomach could be acting up again or your migraine has come back. Lol.
LOL ... Sinus!
I can actually develop sinus in that geographic area so I have that excuse at the ready, too!
My situation is very similar.
My situation is very similar. DH's kids don't live nearby, so when we do go visit it's a whirlwind. Fortunately I have family in the area to spend time with.
His kids are cordial, occasionally friendly. But they'd rather not have me there. Nobody cares about that except for DH. He has a particular notion of "family" and this isn't it.
We've had frank discussions about it. I am not going to make myself miserable for his comfort. I tried that because I thought I "should" and it was a miserable failure full of resentment.
So I see the kids/grandkids a few times and do my own thing most of the time. It works.
Glad to know!
I'm hoping my strategy/tactics will work, too. I am very grateful that we live far away so at least I don't have to go through this that often.
He set up a five night stay at DD town
Then it's on him to play GF by himself. Spending five days with people you don't like it's a little or a lot too much.
He knows you don't like his DD. But he's submitting you to five days of torture, I hope you are staying at a great hotel with a restaurant, room service, bar, night club.
The lodgings are fine
But my friends are often generous with the lunch/dinner/bar tab! LOL
OP
Just read this thread.
Can you update us how it went in a new blog or forum?
Hope it went ok for you and mr pouty pout didnt pout that you made other palns. Which was dang smart BTW.
Also interested in your
Also interested in your update? How did everything pan out?
Yup, I am interested too! We
Yup, I am interested too! We are going to be in OSD46's town for a wedding in a few months so I have this to look forward to.
The plan is sound.
The plan is sound.
Since you have friends in the area, you should make an effort to see them. If you didn't have friends in the area, I would change the Mona Lisa smile plan a bit. I would change the part of the plan for when you are all together.
IMHO no one should wilt or play wall flower when they are with their mate at an event. There is no need to dominate it or make it about themselves, but being present, confident, and notably involved should be the default state. My preference is to rock the event confidently on my mates hip and if she is at my event then I love having her on my arm and participating radiantly.
If I were you, I would make a point to beam your happiness on your mates arm, and clearly demonstrate how happy you and he are together regardless of how toxic the rest of the players in the event may be. Living well is the best revenge, being confident, present, and involved.... sets the tone for how you are to be treated and addressed by others. You will likely also find that having his bride be radiant, confident, and at his side will have a strong positive impact on your DH.
Enjoy your trip.
My mom is my SS's primary GM. When we have had integrated events with my extended family and my DW's extended family the difference in demeaner between my mom and my side and that of my IL's side... is very interesting. My DW's parents and the extendeed IL clan are comparitively reserved and slightly distanced from the group interface. My clan and all of our friends, hers, mine, and ours, all mingle, engage, meet each other, talk, etc....
At our vow renewal on our 20th, 7 years ago, I found this a little strange since we purposfully had our renewal at a winery not far from where my DW grew up so all of my ILs and the extended IL family could attend.
After the event my ILs all talk about how much fun they had and how great it was, but.... there is this odd perspective of superiority that they express. Odd because they are all hanging on to the edge of insolvency, bankruptcy, foreclosure while our friends and my half of the herd are very successful.
It is strange that being struggling marginally educated agriculture workers makes them some how superior in character and the solvent successful people are shallow and pedantic.
In the pics... one group is sour faced and separate, the other is smiling, laughing, engaging, and having a great time. For our vow renowal, this drove the photographer nuts. They had hell to pay to get the video put together and the photo spread layed out because getting any pics or footage of my IL clan looking happy or smiling was a challenge.