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afcarl's picture

last June I married a wonderful man (his 3rd, my 2nd) and I knew he came with a 12 year old step-granddaughter from his late 2nd wife. She's pretty good overall and has no father and a very lazy mother on welfare, so my husband has made it his life's work to give her a good life when we have her, which is every weekend and vacation. By itself, that's ok, but she is extremely manipulative and has him wrapped around her finger. Last week, she has invited a friend over for the weekend without asking - we found out when we were told by her that we had to pick her up for the weekend when we picked her up. I flipped out in private to my husband and his first reaction was, is this your house or our house (he moved in with me and she has her own room here); he said she feels comfortable bringing her friends here. I flipped out about her not even asking and said that she is not in charge here and that we are. After a while, he said she should have asked (NO SHIT!)

He is constantly at her beck and call - he drove 40 miles round trip each week during the school year so he could wash her sneakers so they would be white for cheerleading practice and earlier this week he reconnected with his ex sister in law, which is fine, and posted pics for her to see - all of the granddaughter and the house - none of me. WTF!

I'm getting tired of doing everything the granddaughter wants and not being consulted and beginning to feel like a 3rd wheel here and that he only married me to make her life better. Am I just being a bitch here or do I have a legitimate concern?

godess-clueless's picture

How long was your dh married to his last wife? How long ago did she die? What was his relationship with his past wife's child and the gd like before you became his wife? Most wives would not be happy about playing the holiday and weekend parent role when in reality they were grandparents.

If your dh established this relationship of being very active in the child's life , he may not know how to change the established routine or lessen the amount of time without it feeling as if he is abandoning her somewhat. He may feel his involvement in her life has and in the future will make a difference . As a grandparent, whether this child is blood related or not, it seems they have a strong bond, he cares and loves the child.

afcarl's picture

Hi - please see my description of the child's home life above. And yes, DH established this pattern almost 9 years ago, when his late wife died when the child was 4. BTW, her room is a shrine to her grandmother, who I've told her I'm not trying to replace. And honestly, I understand the reasons he is so involved but its the fact the she's become manipulative and starting to make the decisions around here without asking or even including me that's making me feel like a 3rd wheel in my marriage and my own f'in house! And that he's allowing it! I understand that he wants to give her a good life but at this point, she expects the world to revolve around her - I've already raised 2 teenagers and know from experience its only going to get worse and I want to put a stop to it before it does and I get so frustrated I throw them both out!

godess-clueless's picture

Teenage girls, so glad those days are long over for me. Mine did their best to manipulate, and insist on doing as they wanted without consideration for my schedule or plans. They would have liked the world to revolve around them if given the opportunity. In the real world " it's all about me" doesn't fly. Parents need to set the boundries, teach consideration of others. Maybe discuss with dh the importance of preparing her for real life in the future. Sounds like he has her best interests in his heart or he would not be so involved, most grandpas are not very involved. Now she is a teen and there are new expectations, and life lessons to learn.

afcarl's picture

Oh my lord yes, I never dreamed I'd be going through it again at this age lol! And I agree, she needs to be prepared for a world that doesn't revolve around her. The big question is how to do it without alienating one or the other or both? I guess I'm really part stepmother and part step grandmother here, and I know my own daughter finally became human again around 22 - I guess its foolish to expect anything less in this situation but I really need his support or it won't work. I like your suggestion about giving her some real world training and set the boundaries and expectations and mostly consideration of others. If you have any tips I'd love to hear them and thank you so much for keeping me sane!

godess-clueless's picture

Every household needs rules and expectations met in order to run smoothly. Time to have dh sit down with you and gd to decide your household rules.

afcarl's picture

I totally agree but need to get DH to agree first to those rules and expectations. At this point, he's trying so hard to make up for her shitty home life that he's letting her get away with everything and frustrating the hell out of me.

afcarl's picture

Now I'm wondering if DH just doesn't want to see what's going on. We had a discussion this mornings about not making and not allowing SGD to be the center of the universe and make decisions for us and I cited an example: My birthday was in May and I had said I wanted to try out a new restaurant near us. So why did we end up in the local steakhouse? Because SGD wanted to see the waitstaff sing happy birthday to me. DH said he gave final approval and I pointed out that it was her idea to begin with and he just agreed with it, and stupid me just went along. So it really was her decision and had nothing to do with what I wanted at all. His excuse was that it brought back memories of when he asked me to marry him (it was there) but I don't buy it because we went to the restaurant I wanted to go to for my birthday on our anniversary (and just the two of us!) So I've decided its time for me to grow a pair and we'll see how this weekend goes.

afcarl's picture

Well several months have passed and I no longer let things stew. And all it's done has gotten me labeled by them as OCD. Is it really OCD to expect SGD to pick up her room before she leaves on Monday mornings - I'm not just talking clothes, I'm talking candy stuck to the dressers, and dishes and cups with left over fast food drinks sitting in her room. Is it OCD to demand that she not use my razor and $25 a bottle moisture cream to shave her legs? Or that when her mother borrows our spare car that she not return it full of trash? Or that you take your trash with you when you get up and not leave it for me? Or that you put your stuff back in your room before you leave for the week? I worked damned hard to get this house and all the furniture before I got married and had all this stuff - Is it really OCD to ask that my stuff is not up for grabs without asking and that my stuff be respected? I have talked to DH about it and all I hear is "Chill Out" or I'll talk to them and nothing ever happens. I've addressed it with SGD and now I'm a bitch. Well yeah, I feel walked on. Can someone tell me if I'm truly being a bitch or my feelings are valid? I was brought up in a clean house and was taught to respect stuff, especially if its not yours. Am I crazy?

Rags's picture

Reread this comment. Holy Shit!!!! Time to give DH some clarity. The POS BM does not borrow cars or anything else. The nasty SGK gets shit for nothing since she is a manipulative POS just like her mother. If she does not leave her space pristine, she does not return. Period.

"Yes DH, this is your home as much as it is mine. But it is my property and I will not have it abused by anyone for any reason, ever. So, either you get your nasty SD and her spawn under control, or I will and you nor they will like that one bit. But I oh so will like baring their nasty asses in the most brutal and embarrassing manner possibl. }:) Don't test me. Fix it. NOW!"

If he fails, bring the pain. I would.

afcarl's picture

I agree - I just sent DH a text saying that this is all about respect and courtesy, and that neither BM or SGK are entitled to anything, we give out of the kindness of our hearts. But if it's abused, it stops. And that giving and taking are two very different things and that needs to be clarified - NOW. And that if he won't do it, I will and it won't be pretty. We'll see what he says.

afcarl's picture

So I got text back saying that his SD is now all upset and sorry she's such a loser and has to even ask to borrow the car and didn't realize it was full of trash. And now everyone is upset because I was pissed. Once again, I'm the bad guy. WTF. But I got my expectations across and right now all I can say is let the chips fall where they may. I'm tired of this BS and it stops NOW.

hereiam's picture

Let them be upset that you are pissed off by their lack of respect. If they don't want to be upset, then they shouldn't do the inconsiderate things that piss you off!

My DH has told me more than once that he thinks his daughter is intimidated by me. Good.

hereiam's picture

Nope, not OCD and not crazy to expect some common courtesy and consideration.

I am sure my SD has grown up thinking that I am a bitch and I don't care. Now she has 2 kids of her own and I do not let them run wild in my house and suck on my sofa pillows (yes, this was an issue) so I'm sure she still thinks I'm a bitch. I still don't care.

afcarl's picture

Suck on pillows? Oh God lol. Good to know I'm not crazy and oh yes, kids, including my own in their 20's, can be assholes. The problem is that DH and SGD think that I have the problem and have to change in order to keep the peace. And I totally disagree. Any advice?

hereiam's picture

Well, my DH did not parent from a place of guilt, thinking he needed to make up for the things that were wrong with my SD's life. He did not let her call the shots, she was the child, we were the adults. Of course, he's had weak moments but overall he has not let her manipulate him.

And he knew that the person he wanted to keep the peace with, was me and that is also true now. SD is 24 with 2 kids but very immature (and lazy) and co-dependent on her BM. I will not allow her to be dependent on us and my DH does not want that, either. He tried to raise her to be independent but BM won out and fully enables her.

SD pulled the friend stunt once when DH went to pick her up for visitation. Friend jumped right in the car with SD. DH knew how that was going to go down and told SD, "Nope, not happening."

Your DH has to realize that he can't "make up" for anything. And in trying to do so, he's going to make life harder for her in the long run because in the real world, she will not be coddled or have things just handed to her. She needs to learn responsibility.

afcarl's picture

Well it continues - DH got home tuesday (he's a part-time trucker so is gone one or two nights a week)and we had a pretty good discussion (meaning I didn't lose my temper). He feels his SD is slow and needs things physically shown to her. My question is why he didn't physically point it out to her when he picked up the car, knowing that its condition would upset me. I also found out that when we went away to visit a sick friend of his 2 weekends ago, and his SD and SGD stayed here to watch the dogs, that he specifically told his SD that she shouldn't have anyone over. And of course she did. Rather than reprimand her, he explained that if someone got hurt on our property, we would be responsible. Does that sound like an explanation you would give to someone who's slow?

And I told him that I have moved his SGD's stuff out of our bathroom into another one so she is not tempted to use my stuff anymore. Apparently now I'm selfish, even though he's talked to her twice about it, once just 3 weeks ago.

And he left this morning for a one night run and after telling me he loved me, he made the statement that maybe I'll be over my mean streak by the time he gets back. WTF - this tells me he's just not getting it or doesn't want to. Or my feelings are just not that important.

afcarl's picture

Here's the latest chapter. This weekend we were sitting in the hot tub when SGD decided she wanted to make a running jump into it. As my robe and slippers were next to the tub, I asked her to make sure they didn't get wet. The response I got from SGD was that I shouldn't put them there. Excuse me? I held it together and simply said Don't jump into the hot tub. Well, she got in and moved to the other side and wouldn't even look at me or talk to DH. When she got out, the went straight to her room and I made a remark to DH that she was sulking. His remark was that it was due to how I said it. Double Excuse me? I was thinking that I restrained myself by not yelling out And just who the f*ck do you think YOU are? I was pissed and didn't sleep all night - got up early the next day and explained to DH why I was pissed and he understood and we agreed that I would have a talk with SGD. He went to the store and I sat down on her bed and told her that what she said was extremely disrespectful and that if she wanted to continue to come to our home, she would have to be respectful of me, DH, our property and our home. Never raised my voice and think I got my point across even though her eyes never left her cell phone and she continued to scroll through facebook. Later they were working in the yard, and I asked to help and got sent to the store. When I came back, I asked what I could do and was told by DH that THEY made the decision that I could stain the wood lining the walkway. Again, excuse me but THEY made the decision? Brought that up to DH and he responded that it wasn't they but him and he wanted me to do it because I'm a better painter. I asked why he didn't just say that and his response was that he didn't think he had to. And this morning when he was downstairs waiting for her to get ready for school (she stays Friday, Saturday and Sunday nights and he takes her to school on Monday), he was banging around doing laundry and starting the dishwasher at 6 am when I don't have to get up until 7. I went downstairs and probably wasn't real nice about it but DH's response was that I make him feel like he doesn't do anything right, instead of just apologizing or saying something like he didn't realize he was so noisy.
Now, most of the time we get along pretty well, but all of this is really starting to get to me and I know I'm becoming really bitchy. Can someone please confirm that I have reason to be or am I just seeing and overthinking here?

afcarl's picture

HELP PLEASE! On my comment from yesterday - I woke up this morning and asked DH that instead of him just saying that me and his GD need to work it out, that he take some responsibility too since he essentially raised her and she is pretty much a mini-him when it comes to attitudes. He has always treated her as an equal and a best friend and that is part of the problem - basically saying that he created this monster and he needs to be part of the solution. Well, it just went downhill from there because of course it is my problem and not theirs because I don't love her enough. And that maybe he should move out. In my mind, a grandchild is just that - not an equal and certainly not a superior that runs the roost. He wants me to talk to her again and ask her flat out what her problem with me is and then work on it from there. That's fine, I can do that, but I think he needs to make adjustments too. Am I really off base here? Please help!

LikeMinded's picture

I think you want someone to tell you that you're right and that they are wrong. However, the problem goes beyond right and wrong.

The problem is this:

You do not have a partner. You have two monkeys on your back that you are housing and feeding. They are using you.

DH is blaming you in order to manipulate you, and you are terrified of being seen as the bad guy, so you're easy to manipulate. He has shown you over and over that this girl is more important than you are, and you don't want to see that.

But you will stay, because in your mind, two bad monkeys are better than being alone (btw, you'd be better off alone).

If I was on here complaining about two room mates moving into my house, taking over, using my stuff and telling me I was the problem and that I was "mean", you'd be tellling me to kick their a$$es out, no hesitation, right? But in this case, you "love" this man, even though he's treating you like doo-doo, so you're judgement is clouded, and you're questioning if you are the bad guy or not.

you're right to be angry and to be wanting respect. You're wrong to put up with this situation.

If he says "you knew what you were getting into", well the reality is no, you did not know that he had his head so firmly up this kid's butt.

afcarl's picture

Unfortunately, I totally agree with you. It's hard to hear but you're right. I appreciate you putting it into perspective for me.