Pre-emptive strike disengaging? And to what extent?
Dear everyone. I am new here and also new when it comes to having a partner with children.
My boyfriend has three daughters (2yo, 4yo and 11yo) from two previous marriages. They are lovely and sweet and each of them very keen on claiming me for themselves which I suppose is a good thing. However, I never wanted children. Not for one single moment of my life. And now, it seems, that I’m getting them anyway. Part time at least.
The thing is; I love my boyfriend, he’s a good guy all round, and he respects that I don’t want kids – well in fact he doesn’t want any more himself – but he doesn’t really seem to grasp the concept of not wanting ANY children. He keeps saying things like ”yes, I realize that you don’t want your own kids, but MY kids could over time become very special people in your life”… But that’s the thing, it’s not just that I don’t want kids of my own – I don’t want kids period. Not anybody’s kids. I realize his girls will always be there. I realize they will be there a large portion of the time when are living together, but I will not have them as my responsibility. At all. And not in any way. Not financially, not emotionally, not practically. I allow for them to be in our life of course and I will be – as I have been all along – kind and good to them, but they are not mine and should not and cannot be my responsibility. – And he doesn’t seem to get that. When I say these things to him, he will say something along the lines of ”but you’ll be an important part of their lives” or ”But it’ll be natural (he loooves using that word) that you become an extra caregiver to them” BUZZ! Sorry, the answer is WRONG!!! – I will NOT be an extra what-have-you. I’ll be me. I believe that the two adults in the relationship should be the centre of - and the most important people in - the relationship. The whole ”the kids always come first”-bullcrap may be the holy grale for some people, but not for me, and I fear that if I don’t make that absolutely crystal clear I’ll end up having drawn a very short straw. There has already been a quite a few examples where I went an extra mile for his kids without experiencing any real gratitude from him. So all of this finally leads me to my question:
Since my boyfriend seems to think (although he’d never say it straight out) that I will end up being an extra set of hands, an extra heart, head, bank account, driver of children, birthday party thrower, night time water-getter, diaper changer, breakfast maker-type person when we are living together, should I disengage or semi-disengage now rather than later and to what extent? And does anyone have a plan/recipe/strategy for such a pre-emptive disegagement? – or, if not, then what should do instead?
I normally believe in giving everything, giving all of onself – but in a way this is myself. Kids don’t interest me. And yes, I know that I knew from the word go that he had kids, and maybe I shouldn’t have started anything with him because of that. - But then he also knew that I didn’t want any kids in my life, so maybe he’s the one who shouldn’t have started a relationship with me! Anyway, here we are and we are good together I just don’t want to slowly slide into the background and sacrifice my own life and wishes not to mention my personality for these kids that I never wanted so advice is very welcome.
You and your BF seem to have
You and your BF seem to have very different ideas and expectations as to your role in his kids' lives. I think he really does want you to share in the responsibility and care of them and he is trying to convince you that you should. And I totally understand that you don't, I never had or wanted children, either.
I think you need to disengage now and see how he handles it. He needs to know that you are serious about this and will not change your mind over time, which is what he's always been betting on.
You may find he is not the one for you.
These kids are young. If you
These kids are young. If you don't want children at all? I say cut bait. He's pretty hell bent to make you "momma2.0" you are resisting, and the kids haven't even hit pre-teen awfulness.
OR
If he is a great guy otherwise? just date him. Don't move in or anything like that. Then on days he has his kids, you are just unavailable.
are you cool with every other weekend for the next 16 years?
I agree with the other
I agree with the other posters who say, reconsider. I was just like you before i had my kids:
not interested in children at all, found kid-obsessed parents excruciatingly boring. But there is no way to get around it: kids do suck up a humongous amount of energy, time, money, thoughts.. etc. Your BF's children are so young.. there will be all kinds of milestones when he will want your active participation bc to parents it matters a whole lot that their significant others share in the pride, glow, good vibes that kids generate.
My husband has a very good relationship with my kids, but if for some reason he is not interested in something they did/said/looked into, i feel somewhat offended - irrationally. I do not act offended but there is a little twinge of bad feeling stirring in me. A parent's thinking invariably goes, "How can anyone not be into MY kids? He/she has no interest in GENERIC kids, and neither do i, but these are VERY special kids and no one will be able to resist their charms!" But their charms are THAT special to me bc i am related to them, i see them as an extension of me. To people who are not related to them, they are totally average.
I think all those concerned will avoid a whole lot of resentment down the road if you part company. You will be better off with someone who is childless, and your BF and his kids - with someone who is into children.
Thank you all for your advice
Thank you all for your advice and comments! They have helped me come up with a sort of approximate game plan:
a) I will be (even) clearer with my boyfriend and tell him that no, I don't want to be an actual stepmom as such (and certainly not a momma2.0 with the responsibility that comes with that role. But yes, I will still be kind, warm and calm with the kids.
b) I will stop doing all those little things that I have been doing so far to help him out with the kids. - All those little things that he has come to expect rather than appreciate, and
c) If he can't be with that version of me - the actual me - I'll have to leave him.
I must admit that right now, as I'm writing this, I fear that leaving may very well be what I end up doing. Over the last 24 hours I've tried engaging him in serious practical planning of the future; of how our life together should and would be, us living together, focusing, of course, mainly on what he thinks my responsibility towards the kids should be. Well he hasn't been wanting to be clear at all regarding that topic, each time dodging with frases like "as long as we're positive, it's all going to be fine!"....Hmm real usefull, Darling. He also said "I think you just need to change you're point of view when it comes to being there for my kids" I of course asked him - seriously (as imjusthereforthecookies suggested (thank you!)) - what "being there" for them would imply exactly - he then circled back to the whole being positive-gospel. So, as you might gather - that(long & to no avail!) on and of-conversation has left me a bit deflated about the whole moving in together-situation - and even to whole him&me-situation.
Well, maybe his attitude to having kids and being in a relationship just isn't sufficiently aligned with mine. Like anadiller1 I - as I mentioned in my opening post - also believe that your partner is the one you should focus on since your relationship with him/her is the one that is for life. No adult man or woman would (or should!) accept being second, third or fourth in line in the eyes of their partner. If my boyfriend doesn't see things the same way, I think I'll have to find someone with an idea of love and relationships closer to mine. It breaks my heart, but then again, I've always been a fairly realistic person.
Again; thank you all so much for your time and thoughts!
Get out and leave. Seriously.
:O Get out and leave. Seriously. You will end sharing everything and you will take of children more than him. I encourage you to read the forum Teenage Stepchildren. It is tough having to care for children that are not your own even when you love them as your own. I love my two SDs dearly, but I cannot tell you how many days I have reflected back on my single days a bit too wistfully. I wanted all of this that I took on...I just didn't know it would be so hard and that you give all of yourself. You can't reserve any part of your former life. It's all or nothing. Best of luck in your very tough choice.