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Question on visiting Daugther at ex wife's house/Easter Holiday

runnergirl4's picture

Hi, New to this forum, but need help to sort out issues in my relationship with my boyfriend, his very soon to be ex-wife and his 11 yr old daughter. I am also in process of divorce (separated for a long time, held off because my ex is on my heath insurance). I have 2 children, ages 7 and 10. I was married 18 years, he was only married 3 years (they did not get married when she got pregnant) and were sometimes dating others before they got married. I am dating him a little over a year, just shortly after he moved out. I have not met his daugther. In fact, this past Saturday was the first night she stayed with him at this apt. She was "allowed" there on a trial basis to see how it went. At first she would not agree and he told her he would file a court order. She changed her mind and he didn't file because he thinks its better if he doesn't have to go that route. The daughter did just ok. I do not live with my boyfriend. I was informed several months into our relationship that the Mom never allowed my Bf to take the daugther to his place for weekends and he always spent time there at her place. He would pick the daughter up in the am for daycare, then drop her off after work, wait for the Mom to come home. Sometimes stayed for dinner, etc. The daugher only met 1 prior GF one time and the Mom went nuts.

I was trying to tolerate this thinking I was giving all of them time to transition with the divorce, etc, but imo, this is just getting ridiculous. BF told he will have to see what will happen in 2 weekends when it is his weekend again. Also, he sees her Monday night, Wed night and Thurs night. He drives an hour to pick her up at school and then goes to the Moms house until about 9pm. He says just the 2 of them go out for dinner then back hom to do homework. I'm not crazy about this either. Easter is this weekend and he asked how I felt about him going over there about 1pm for the day. My kids will be with their Dad. I'm really hurt. I understand he wants to see his daugther for the holiday, but don't feel he should be spending it like a family, since they no longer are in one sense.

How much time do other ex's spend at their ex-wife's house? What types of things do they still do for them? I ask because he has mentioned marriage and I forsee a long road with the ex-wife here. If he doesnt do what she wants, she tells him he can't see her at all. I have nothing against him seeing his daughter. My only issue is that it is always at her place. For example, the daugther is off from school today and he drove there to stay with her (school holiday) today and will be there tonight until about 9pm. Mom is at work til about 6pm. Please any advice or input?

runnergirl4's picture

I agree the BM is using visitation as a control tactic. The divorce won't be final for a few months, maybe less. My bf would like 50/50, but not practical since they live an hour apart. He wants to see daugther 2-3 times a week, plus every other weekend. He does this now, BUT it is always at the BM house. We have discussed this before because I did not agree with it and he then lied about having his daughter at his place on 2 other weekends. So I have that issue (trust) going now as well.

If I thought the divorce being final would change the BM position, I may feel better about waiting it out. The fact that she was so controlling on this even before they got married concerns me greatly.

Maybe I am just being negative and looking for problems. Don't know

stormabruin's picture

I agree that he is sending poor messages to his daughter with his behavior. She's 11 years old...old enough to understand & accept that her parents aren't together anymore. I'm certain she has a number of friends at school who are in similiar situations.

Your BF needs to go ahead & have a vistiation agreement written up. As much as they want to keep it out of court, it is SO important to have a court order that outlines the visitation & child support.

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Jsmom's picture

He should not be in her house at all. There doesn't appear to be any boundaries. When he finally does stop this behavior, all hell is going to break loose and it is going to be directed at you. BTDT. You will be the bad guy...

He needs to read the book Boundaries...you need to read Stepmonster. Maybe you can preempt some of the problems coming your way.

runnergirl4's picture

Thanks..I would actually be fine not meeting his daughter for a while yet, IF he was spending time with her Dad at his place and not with the ex. If he is always seeing his BD at the BM house, how would we ever be able to move our relationship forward? I am really torn over Easter. The thought of the 3 of them celebrating over Easter dinner makes me a little angry and resentful that BF does not stand up to BM. He said if I was not ok with it, he would just stay home. Guilt anyone? How do you handle that. It just seems like a no win situation. Plus my kids come back home at 5pm and then he is alone the rest of the day (my kids have not met him either).

stormabruin's picture

Your BF has no reason to spend Easter with a woman he is no longer with. If he wants time with his daughter...Easter or any other day...he needs to do it at his place. He needs to stand up to BM. The child is as much his as she is her mothers.

He needs to stop his time with the ex, & show his daughter that she can have a relationship with him that doesn't involve her mother.

Absolutely NO reason for him to be sitting around a dinner table with his ex-wife. Maybe she can eat Easter dinner with her mom & then come to his place to have some Easter time with her dad. If mom won't agree to that, he can spend Easter with you.

Like I posted above, it is so important that he get a court order for visitation. That way the time is his with his daughter, regardless of what BM says.

twopines's picture

>>How much time do other ex's spend at their ex-wife's house?<<

When DH still lived in the same city as BM, no time was spent in each other's house.

>>What types of things do they still do for them?<<

Dear gawd, nothing. Ick.

confusedsm11's picture

I know it sounds odd that he visits at her house but I have a DD and her Biodad is BAAAAD news. Well, I think he has settled down now but has been in trouble in all kinds of situations and thats the reason he did not file for visitation. That is the reason he is only allowed to come to our home to visit DD and maybe sometimes take her to the park or out to dinner. It drives DH nuts and I know her biodads girlfriend hates the situation too BUT he never filed for visits and that is the only way I feel comfortable with visits happening with his history and no court order. Are you sure there isn't something he is hiding, another reason to not file custody papers? Without custody, BM runs the show and can do/move, etc whereever she wants and leave your FDH in the dust. It seems odd that he would risk that if he loves his daughter