Need Serious Advice on SD and DH - Please!
So this may be a little long, but I want to put the whole thing out there. I met my DH when my SD was 5, she is 15 now. Her BM passed away when she was 4. BM's family is of a different culture than I am. They resented me immediatley, and began causing problems for me and DH and SD pretty quickly. We moved to a different state when SD was 7. BM's family told SD that we were taking her out of the country and she would never see them again and that BM would be very upset about this. BM's family began telling SD that BM was sending money from heaven to buy her things, ect. SD would go see BM's family for about a month each summer and one week at Christmas. We had her the rest of the time. BM's family started making SD celebrate BM's birthday at the cemetary, they would tell her things like BM is sitting next to you right now "brushing your hair." ANY rule we had, they broke. SD was 8 years old and they were buying her tube tops, mini skirts, and knee high boots - among other things.
I legally adopted SD when she was 11. This was a mutal thing. She agreed, DH agreed, I wanted to. I really thought I was making the best decision. I had been raising her, I was bonded to her, and I thought that it would be a good thing. We did not tell BM's family about the adoption, we new they would freak out. I did not limit thier contact with SD (even though I wanted too, real real bad) In hindsight I should have.
Enter me and DH's 1st born child when SD was 7. BM's family starts telling SD that BD is not her sister becuase she is of a different culture. This bleeds into SD starting to resent BD pretty quickly. SD starts telling me that me and DH cant be married becuase BM is coming back from heaven to marry DH. BM's family starts telling me that DH will never love me like he loved BM and that I will never be good enough. Thank god we live in a different state. DH never sticks up for me to them, in fact he never talks to them. He leaves it all to me. I cry frequently.
My DH works a lot. And just started leaving SD with me as soon as we started living together when SD was 6. He would just go to work and leave her with me, which was ok, but not something we really talked about. I registered her in school, went to parent teacher conferences, took her to girl scouts, baseball, ice skating, eventually began going to the principal's office, picking her up from law enforcemnet, going to court. ALONE, no help from DH.
SD started sneaking boys into our house, "accidently" broke BD's arm, started a small fire in her room (buring notes), was getting multiple F's in class, numerous tardies (like every day), started shoplifting, triagulating, manipulating and lieing. So I tell DH that we should take a parenting class. Maybe we are doing something wrong. We take parenting class and learn some new things.
Well DH WILL NOT DISICLIPLING SD! In fact, takes her side over mine, when there is an issue. If I tell him SD has 3 F's she will say no, I have all A's and 2 B's. I show him report card. He says "I dont know who to belive" and walks away. SD started fire in room, and took a video of it. SD denied the fire, I found the Video, DH refused to watch the video and there was no disiclipne and no accountably of SD. SD steals our camera. Takes it to school, takes a bunch of photos. We cant find camera. I look in her room and find it, it is full of pics of her and her frineds. She LIES and says she DID NOT TAKE IT TO SCHOOL. DH burns her a cc of the photos and says nothing about stealing the camera or lying.
At this poing my marriage is a wreck. DH wont disiclipline SD. SD knows it. BM's family starts telling SD that she can come live with them, life will be so much better with them, Im mean and evil and I dont love her, and DH is a loser becuase he married me ect. SD says she is going to continue to get in trouble until we let her go live with BM's family. BM's family is telling ME that they dont want her to live with them, at the same time they are telling her she can "come any time". DH tells SD she can go live with BM's family. SD tells everyone I "kicked her out."
SD goes to live with BM's family she is 14. She gets kicked out of 2 schools in 2 months. She has no rules. She is bouncing around here to here to here. DH only gets SD's side of the story. Never BM's family's side (as much as I dont like them, I think DH should talk to BM's family about this) SD tells DH that she is doing great in school ect. DH does not follow up. We have yet to see a report card.
3 months ago BM's family kicks SD out. Tells her to go live with DH's family. This was never in the plan, we were never talked to about it. Now SD is living with DH's family. DH's mom works nights, DH's dad is disabled. SD is doing whatever she wants.
DH now wants SD to move back. I cant not let her back into my house. I do not trust her, I do not want her around BD and BS. The issues around SD nearly ruined my marriage. Since SD has been gone my marriage has never been better. Now, just the thought of SD coming back is creating anxiety and stress in my marriage and she is not even here. I know that DH will not step up to SD ever, and It will be the same situation, repeated and intensified. She hates me. Im the only person that has tried to hold her accountable for anything. If she is in trouble she says "my mom died" and everyone just "lets it go." She does not remember her BM. But she knows that she has the "perfect excuse" to get away with murder.
BM's family and SD are giving DH major guilt trips about everything. I think this is why he wants her to come back so they will stop telling him he is a loser for "not raising his kid"
I want to support DH, but I cant live with SD. WHAT DO I DO? we are going to visit SD and DH's family in 2 weeks. I dont want to go. DH wants SD to move back when we come back. Im in tears as I write this. I feel like it will be the end of my marriage if she comes back.
I don't have any advice, but
I don't have any advice, but I can tell you that SD moving in is my "dealbreaker" as well.
Have you told your DH?? You are just going to have to be brutally honest. I also have to say that he let his own daughter be moved around and didn't keep up with her. He didn't do anything about her grades or the fact that she had no boundaries. She shouldn't have been allowed to leave in the first place. She had no right to go live with anyone else. I'm sure it was hard on him, but its his daughter not the BM's family and not DH family. All of that should have be nipped by him and he didn't do it. He didn't stand up to anyone and now he has a daughter who is out of control.
He has to take responsibility for that. Not you. You have to be responsible for your own children. If he is going to raise his daughter, he needs to get his own place. I wouldn't allow her back either
If your DH wants her back he
If your DH wants her back he needs get an apartment and the 2 of them can live there. Do not let her back in your house and if he does not agree you will have to kick him to the curb. Its your responsibility to protect your young children and you know they are not safe with her.
@alwaysanxious, I totally
@alwaysanxious, I totally agree. I think that he sees that now, that BM's family is giving him a guilt trip, but I dont think that he will change he just wants her back here so they will shut up.
@nancyL, you are right, and that is pretty much the only conclusion I have came to. I can not live with him and SD. and my little ones can not be around all that either. I really just see the end if she comes back. Its heartbreaking becuase he is an amazing father to BD and BS and a really good husband to me. I dont know what the issue is with SD....guilt maybe??
I actually have to agree with
I actually have to agree with Kris on this one-if she wants to think of her as her sd then she can, but legally she is just as responsible for that child as her dh is. This child has two legal parents and while I get that the op tried to step up to the plate at one point-she abandoned that because her dh didnt back her. If my child had those sorts of problems, I would step up to the plate whether my dh supported me or not. Perhaps what the girl needs is some psychiatric help-will it be beneficial at this point? IDK. Probably not- but it is worth a shot.
I agree with the legal issue!
I agree with the legal issue! Its not that I do not want to accept responsibility for her. and I would have pulled the plug on her seeing BM's family BUT DH was against it. I did try to limit thier contact with SD, but SD would just give them her friends' cell phone numbers and she would talk to them everyday that way. That was something I could not control. I could have gotten a protective order, but I would have had no proof that they were violating it. SD would tell DH about her contact with them via the friends' cell phones - not me.
I did put her in counseling before she left. I work full time, have two small children, and could not take her to EVERY SINGLE SESSION alone. DH would not/could not take her. He also would not/could not go to principals meetings, the cop shop, baseball practice, ect. I was the only person doing any of those things. And when SD would get in trouble, she would lie to him and he would believe her. I felt like dirt.
IF she does come back, the contact with BM's family will not stop. SD refuses to acknowledge that I adopted her at this point. They did totally poison her. I knew it was happening and I tried to talk to DH about it, but he will not stand up for me or SD to them.
I dont know what to do.
I posted on here for advice, not bashing. So if your gonna BASH me for putting my feelings out there, please skip along to the next post.
At this point and at her age
At this point and at her age I would also have to say that moving back in would not be an option. You have to think about your marriage, Which comes before ANYTHING, and the other kids. She sounds like a true safety issue.
@katrinkie 2....the family
@katrinkie 2....the family counseling is something that I think is a great idea. The only problem is that SD lives in another state. Its impossible for us to have any counseling prior to her coming back. I think a slow gradual return would be possible, and ideal, but I dont know how to make that work. I did think about me and my kids moving out, letting SD come back. Getting SD in counseling, getting SD and DH in counseling together, and getting family counseling for all of us. But again, im not really convinced that DH would go for ALL of that.
Katrinkie, I wasn't referring
Katrinkie, I wasn't referring to you with the bash comment. I like your ideas! And thanks for the hugs!
@krisnkids....seriously? yes,
@krisnkids....seriously? yes, legally speaking SD is my daughter. I adopted her at the age of 11. She knows I am not BM. IF the contact with BM's family was not as intrusive as it is the situation would be different. AND I DID do everything I could to help SD. I went to bat for her all the time! However, when she started endangering the lives of the rest of my family and DH would DO NOTHING what the HELL WOULD YOU HAVE DONE? do you work full time? I DO! is your DH home on the weekends? MINE IS NOT! Do you have a family support system around you? mom? sisters? I DONT! so please dont bash me.
Stepaside, thank you for your
Stepaside, thank you for your story and I think you nailed it on the head. DH does not want the guilt trip from the other sides. Life is much better with her not here. Thats all there is too it. I'm fine with her visiting ect and sending money for stuff. I think my DH knows life is better but he's at a cross roads too. It's frustrating because we have a good marriage for the most part but as soon as SD is even brought up, we are like strangers.
Sprout1 - this kid needs a
Sprout1 - this kid needs a swift kick in the ass by her dad..seems to me you have done your fair share of trying to raise her, you even adopted her.. I mean it's clear to me that you love this girl...
This kid is screaming for attention and your husband is failing miserably. This young girl is very confused and she is acting out. It would be very dangerous to have her live with you again unless she is in counselling and you and your husband have a very structured routine and rules in your home.
My gosh she accidently broke your BD arm?? what?? OMG all hell would of broke loose. She has boys sneak in your home and she set a fire in her room... these are serious situations that could have severe consequences. Your DH needs to wake up or he will loose you, the kids and his daughter..
I am so so sorry that your DH is not more supportive, but you need to stand tall and tell him the way it is and do no waiver from this. He needs to step up and deal with this issue with his daughter now or the worst will happen.
I do wish you all the best....gosh it's tough isn't it... hang in there..
Z
Z, I do love her, and you
Z, I do love her, and you right, she needs her dad to step up to the plate. As far as structered routine, that is a great idea, and we did try that in the past, but im the only one that enforced it. DH always gave SD the "benefit of the doubt" about everything. As far as DH dealing with the issue I think that he just does not know how to deal with it, so he sees her coming back here as a way to deal with it.
The best part is that he is pushing HER to come back. Im not sure she really wants to. She knows that I will not just let stuff fly. right now she has no rules. DH is giving her TOTAL control as to her coming back or not. ITS ALL UP TO HER he says. He hasnt even asked me how I feel about. His words are "I told SD she can move back whenever she wants, and that I want her to come back" I dont even know what to say. Ive been silent about it becuase Im hoping she will say she does not want to come back. I just didnt know what to say. but I think that you are right, and a few other people on here. I have to protect my kids, and my marriage. and if DH is willing to throw us away to save her It will just have to be something I deal with.
I really hope it doesn't come
I really hope it doesn't come to that, but if he leaves you no choice you will have to protect your own.
Problem is he does not have a plan in place and because of this it's going to fail. As you stated he has given her total control..why??? why??? and why??? this is a recipe for disaster..you do not give a kid card blanche when they are out of control..that's like giving a drug addict drugs...you just dont do that. He is the adult, the father and he needs to guide her.
She more than likely does not want to come back to live there, I mean come on as you said she has no rules right now.
Wow this is a tough one, maybe chat with him in a calm manner and tell him what your needs are and what your intentions are should she come back to live with you. Make it very clear to him..
Z
My SD15 has left this house
My SD15 has left this house and she is not welcome back. If DH wants her back, I am gone. Easy enough for me. I will take my BS16 and go. I will not watch this house self-destruct again...He knows that I am serious and doesn't want another divorce, so I am pretty sure she will never be welcome back...
You do what protects you and your children. If that means moving out, do that. They need to come first. Not these demon children....