how do you handle them secret txts and calls between skids DH and BM...or do you not have them?
How do you handle the secret phone calls and texts that occur to my DH from his BS16 and BS12 and the BM (ex bitch)?
I have in the past got really upset with the continueing calling, which DH rejects the calls in my presence, but they keep calling back. Then the txts start, DH may ignore or may txt back but I just feel they are all in a conversation about me or trying to organise more money from us, sorting out business which I feel left out of....I sort feel we should be discussing the weird behaviour of them three and togehter working out a plan of attack to get a better outcome....
I always grizzle openely about my ex and his lack of being a father or his pain in the arse behviour....???
Is it just me or does anyone else feel yuk over this scene...
And yes I feel that DH should be open and upfront by saying....blah blah wants to do this and skid 1 says Im not doing anything for him...etc etc, cos I would to him....or am I being silly requesting this?
How do you guys handle it?
I don't really mind if DH and
I don't really mind if DH and SS have "private conversations". It is never over the phone, but I don't think it would bother me if it was. HOWEVER, SS doesn't have a past reputation of doing sneaky things like talking poorly about me behind my back.
DH doesn't have secret conversations with BM, even if she WANTS to. There is nothing she can say to him that needs to be kept from me, I am his wife. DH wouldn't want me having "secret conversations" with my ex, her returns the respect. All texts are left in phones from each others ex's so there is no room for anyone to "he said- she said" and they RARELY talk on the phone. Not that we go through each others phones, but it is there if either of us ever feel the need to see whats going on. Which is rare. She never has anything important, educated, worthy of our time to say anyways.
text messages bother me
text messages bother me immensely- i'll tell you why: text messages are a form of instant communication and the person texting you most likely knows your phone habits and feels ignored if you don't answer within 5 minutes. my BF had this problem with the BM- she would text constantly and if he didn't text back right away she would call or send nasty texts like he was ignoring her- and the text messages were not an emergency. i put my foot down- i said tell her to stop texting you unless your kid's leg is falling off (in which case she would call hopefully)- everything else needs to be done via email. her texting is intruding on our everyday life and interrupting OUR time together. if she has something that important to say she can put it all in one email and send it and you can respond when you have time.
put your foot down. we got to the point where we almost had her number blocked because BF talked to her over and over she still wouldn't stop. finally after he threatened to have her number blocked she calmed down with the texting.
his daughter does text him but she is 10- the most she says is "hi" and "what are you doing?"- although she does text often- i think its just for her to fill time when she is bored. i don't mind and BF likes to check in with her.
I completely hear you with
I completely hear you with the constant texting and having to reply instantly or the calls come. But has definitly gotten better. Cause I explained that when you jump for her all the time she expects it all the time. The thing that really erked me was the texting at night when we were in bed. Cause then he'd get pissed cause she was bitching about something. or now its hard to get in the mood when now he's just thought of her and so have I. I just explained that to him and he understood and told her to back off especially at night cause it was our time. SHE was PISSED and said I'll text when ever I want. Well he started shutting his phone off. and she stopped. But she was so mad at me, cause she would never be in the wrong (insert sarcsm) and its always everyone else fault. I wish I could only be so perfect. (ya more sarcsm)
My DH did that to me once and
My DH did that to me once and when he beeped back I was long gone and boy did we have a fight that night - he also one time kept talking to BM and did not beep over to me (this was in the beginning of our marriage - we have been married 7 1/2 years and together 8 1/2 years) well when he got home that night there was a war as well - I told him I am the most important person in his life and if he ever did not pick me up or tried to go over to BM that we were through and he knew I was not kidding. Now sometimes when we are on the phone SS will call him and he asks me if it is okay if he talks to him and I say yes - also when he is on the phone with someone else he beeps over for me every time. He has learned a lot about me in the last 8 years - he knows I love him, will never cheat unlike BM, respect him enough to help raise his son for 3 years full time and will do whatever it takes to make the marriage work and can trust me completely but he also knows by now that I will not tolerate any secret phone calls or texts and he knows I check his phone all the time - my biggest reason for this is that I want to know what is coming down the pike and not be caught unaware by BM. To me knowledge is power!!!
I absolutely agree with the
I absolutely agree with the knowledge is power...thats why I feel like a mushroom when it comes to his once happy family....I fell like a temperary wife...like the second hand rose...Sure I dont care what he says to the horrible skids, but the little shits bad mouth me and I would really like to know the extent that he sticks up for me....
I have said over and over, that there shouldnt be any reason for secret conversations or txts or phone calls but he sneaks off to the bathroom or outside to ansa them....Like Im not that stupid...I know what he is up to...
I completely trust my hsband as he does of me but I have tried to put my foot down and nothing seems to work??
I really need some ideas on what to say...
I went thru his phone a couple of saturday nights ago as I was going to change the BM's name to slag slut bitch...but got too involved with wondering why all the texts were deleted????
I dont know ? It all sounds odd to me...
I have 3 biological children
I have 3 biological children who phone me at home or on my mobile. If my husband should pick up either phone my children will talk to him, about sport or whatever ask about work or his health if he has been ill. He will then pass the phone to me and I will have my conversation with them......right there in front of my husband. However, up until August this year when they have stopped calling except during working hours when he is at work, whenever either of his sons called (which was rarely) my husband would just take the call like a normal person, when his daughter called, well you could see the fear in his eyes when he say her name come up on the mobile. She would not ring at home in case I would answer, she tried ringing home twice and both times I answered and both times she hung up, and yes I do know it was her because we have caller ID. Anyway getting back to how he responded to his daughters calls, he would answer as he was walking out the back door, then he would go down the back of the yard to talk to her or if it was too cold he would leave and go into another room. This invariably led to huge fights between us because I could not understand the need for privacy and secsrecy every single time his daughter called, and I also felt not only was he being rude to me, but he would do this when we had visitors even friends he had over from work. It was embarrassing. However he would always refuse to acknowledge it was rude, and always, always, always turn it around and say "You just don't want me to talk to my kids." There was never any acknowledgement from him that I never had a problem when he spoke to his sons, because he didn't do it outside or behind closed doors and it would be normal for me to wonder why he felt the need to speak in low tones and usually outside only when his daughter called. This practice didn't make me mad or angry it infuriated me. He has sat back for years and allowed his childen to ignore me completely to not include me in anything and to act as though I didn't exist and this type of conversation was to my mind just him doing exactly the same thing to me as his childen were doing. I know him well enough to know if I was taking sneaky calls out in the backyard with my kids he would be livid. Also, I guess apart from the rudeness the fact that this type of behaviour only occurred with his daughter was creepy to me, it was almost as if he was having an affair with another woman the way he behaved with her calls. Still as time has gone on I have come to see that he did that because she talks really loudly in person and on the phone because she likes to be the center of attention, and she constantly demands things from daddy, so I guess he was just protecting her because I had told him on many occassions I did not think the way she yelled at him and verbally abused him whenever she spoke to him, was not right especially since she was always tryinng to get him to do something or buy something for her. I thought she needed to ask and speak politely, he always defended her and said she did not yell at him Yeah right. So I think he took the calls outside so I couldn't hear what her next demand was each time. Long story short - it is rude and it is wrong.
I have 3 biological children
I have 3 biological children who phone me at home or on my mobile. If my husband should pick up either phone my children will talk to him, about sport or whatever ask about work or his health if he has been ill. He will then pass the phone to me and I will have my conversation with them......right there in front of my husband. However, up until August this year when they have stopped calling except during working hours when he is at work, whenever either of his sons called (which was rarely) my husband would just take the call like a normal person, when his daughter called, well you could see the fear in his eyes when he say her name come up on the mobile. She would not ring at home in case I would answer, she tried ringing home twice and both times I answered and both times she hung up, and yes I do know it was her because we have caller ID. Anyway getting back to how he responded to his daughters calls, he would answer as he was walking out the back door, then he would go down the back of the yard to talk to her or if it was too cold he would leave and go into another room. This invariably led to huge fights between us because I could not understand the need for privacy and secsrecy every single time his daughter called, and I also felt not only was he being rude to me, but he would do this when we had visitors even friends he had over from work. It was embarrassing. However he would always refuse to acknowledge it was rude, and always, always, always turn it around and say "You just don't want me to talk to my kids." There was never any acknowledgement from him that I never had a problem when he spoke to his sons, because he didn't do it outside or behind closed doors and it would be normal for me to wonder why he felt the need to speak in low tones and usually outside only when his daughter called. This practice didn't make me mad or angry it infuriated me. He has sat back for years and allowed his childen to ignore me completely to not include me in anything and to act as though I didn't exist and this type of conversation was to my mind just him doing exactly the same thing to me as his childen were doing. I know him well enough to know if I was taking sneaky calls out in the backyard with my kids he would be livid. Also, I guess apart from the rudeness the fact that this type of behaviour only occurred with his daughter was creepy to me, it was almost as if he was having an affair with another woman the way he behaved with her calls. Still as time has gone on I have come to see that he did that because she talks really loudly in person and on the phone because she likes to be the center of attention, and she constantly demands things from daddy, so I guess he was just protecting her because I had told him on many occassions I did not think the way she yelled at him and verbally abused him whenever she spoke to him, was not right especially since she was always tryinng to get him to do something or buy something for her. I thought she needed to ask and speak politely, he always defended her and said she did not yell at him Yeah right. So I think he took the calls outside so I couldn't hear what her next demand was each time. Long story short - it is rude and it is wrong.
Yes it is rude I agree. Isnt
Yes it is rude I agree. Isnt it funny how something like this can be so hard to deal with? I believe my DH takes the calls in secret bc the little horrors call constantly... What I mean by that, if the golden child soon to be president cos he is just so smart and fugly ss16 wants to get his horrid points accross, he wont care what his father may be doing, or what time of night it is...or if his father is in a meeting, having dinner, at a luncheon with his wife, or doing busines, the brat will call, and if no one answers he will keep calling and calling and calling and calling...then he will proceed to txt, then txt more...so you see my DH's phone light up, then light up, over and over again, usually will go like this for say 2 hours if the brat doesnt get answered....then ill say to my DH, oh ss16 keeps calling....sweetheart you better call him immediatly as it must be very important....so he will make that call in front of me...and its usually the ss16 requesting his father buy him something or buy nfl tickets to take him to a game....
When I accidently went thru DH's phone one or maybe two times, I noticed that ss16 will do his spastic calling regime, then the other ss12 has a go, then if they both dont get a response they tell the bm to call....and so she goes thru a calling regime....all up about 50 or so calls had been made along with 20 or so threatening txts
no kidding folks.. Oh and we pay for the little darlings phone which incidently can be as high as +900 bucks a month....but then thats another rant
why the hell cant DH take a call - in front of me - then get off the phone and say "oh that was wots his face wanting blah blah...or say it was ss16 he was telling me about this thing he did today in school" wots wrong with that....thats the way I take my kids calls....
Think ill start answering the DH cell phone - huh imagine...?
If you have to TELL someone
If you have to TELL someone that you're the most important person in his life, doesn't that mean you AREN'T?
He has to ask you for PERMISSION to talk to his son??
I really, truly don't get it. I can't imagine DH would stick around if I treated him like a nutless child. :? :? :?
Oi Vey I don't have to tell
Oi Vey I don't have to tell him I am the most important but I do remind him from time to time because I am the most important person in his life and yes I have him completely whipped drives you crazy as BM doesn't it??????!!!!!????? It works for us and I quite frankly Idon't treat him like a nutless child and I don't treat him like you treat everyone on this board who is not a BM loving person. So please don't try to make me feel bad just go back to feeding your rabbit named thumper who is part of your blended family!!!
And seriously if you have nothing constructive to say to me and want to only start trouble do it to someone who has not been on here over a year because I am not afraid of your 2 edged sword of a tongue!!
yeah who is this oi
yeah who is this oi vey....
is she your BM in disguise creeping around on step talk???
she sounds like a bit of a stupid bitch to me.....
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Um, ok... I have no idea what
Um, ok... I have no idea what half of that rant was about.
I don't care if your man is whipped. Different strokes. I said that "I" don't want a man like that.
I also don't need to remind the people that I'm important to them. That makes NOOOOO sense to me. Matter of fact, it should be THEM reminding ME that I'm the most important person in their life.
Yes, I have biokids. So do you.
My DH and I have a very
My DH and I have a very wonderful and loving relationship and have always had one - he and I discussed before we even got married how we would handle my SS and how he would back me up completely in all things regarding SS - that is why it has worked wonderfully for the past 8 1/2 years - he and I both realize how important our relationship is before any other relationship that we are involved in - as I always say the husband and wife must be healthy in order for the family to be healthy
And I find it ironic that the only line you can pick up on is that I told my DH I am the most important person in his life and not the fact that knowledge is power and that we as SM's need to know what is going on - but you being I suspect a jilted ex wife can only pick up on the negative things that anyone here on the board talks about - if you ever notice you cannot say one thing nice or even agree with any thing that a SM writes which leads me to believe that you are a BM only and if you are a SM then the children do not come to your home very much!!
Also you are right I have a biokid - but my relationship with my husband still comes before the relationship I have with my daughter - I love her an incredible amount but I still love and cherish my husband more - how can all these children from divorced families learn what a good and loving relationship looks like and hopefully one day find that relationship and just maybe the divorce rate may go down someday -- but this cannot happen if they never see a good and loving relationship -
Now quite frankly your barbs and insults and talking down to people bores me and this is my last post about anything that you will ever write following me on ST - I have to say I truly feel so sorry for you that your world is so sad and bad that you need to put everyone down on this site to make yourself feel better - I will say a prayer for you that your family situation gets better!!
Triple like and you too are
Triple like and you too are an inspiration to me as well - I don't really think I could handle a smelly adult skid in my house without getting a divorce or being put in jail for life for homicide!!!
One of my elderly clients, a
One of my elderly clients, a very wealthy lady nearing the grand old age of 92, mentioned to me one day as I enjoyed a cup of tea with scones at her house....
She was upset that her daughter and husband were splitting up...as this old lovely lady had a very high position in the United Church, I asked her how her faith sees this divorce...she explained the following to me .... I have since lived by this rule its very similiar to what you say caregiver1127:
The most important thing that you can teach your children is how to love....But you cannot teach that if you are not in a marriage where there is tru love....IF children see their parents not being nice to each other, running each other down...then they will not grow properly and when they take on their own marriages, they will repeat what they have seen....so you and your children are much better off without that, but if you can find someone who you really love, and they really love you, the kids will see this and you will teach them how to treat someone you really love. You will teach your kids the greatest gift in life.....
bit mushy I know but it has impact on me even today.
I was going thru a divorce at the time, and all i wanted was the love of my life who I had met 10 years before.....needless to say I have since got back with that love of my life....& I seperated from my husband straigh after hearing these very wise words....
oi vey.....I dont think you have our issues....if you did - you wouldnt say what you say, as you would feel differently.
It would bother me. I get it
It would bother me. I get it right in front of my face though! SD will tell DH to come to her room - she NEEDS to tell him something?? WTH can't she just say it?? Like I care. He played into it at first - but now he tells her to get her butt up and come to him.
How do I handle it? At first
How do I handle it? At first it was with bad grace, and now I ignore it. I finally had to decide it wasn't a hill I felt like dying on.
So I just come on here and occasionally complain during vents/rants how SD has to go whisper things in SO's ear. He knows she's wrong to do that when other people are in the room, but he chooses not to do anything about it. I only get the mild satisfaction that it bothers him.
I recently changed our home phone # and BM doesn't have it. I know she still calls SO's cell phone, but it has at least removed the aggravation of the phone ringing constantly. It bothers me that I don't know what they're talking about, only because I know that SO is probably giving in to favors for her and requests for money that I would not be happy about, all under the guise of "helping the kids". Again, I had to decide to get over it. My trying to talk to SO about it only made him talk to her behind my back.
I don't think your'e being
I don't think your'e being demanding about any of this. He should be sharing info with you, the skids, you and him are a family unit at your home. Have you tried having this conversation with him? I think expressing your feelings to him and use the "I statement". (I feel this, when this happens.)may help :?
Try to see if he is willing to set some boundaries with all the texting and phone calls. If there is an emergency, he can always get the message and call back if need be. See if he will shut the cell off or silence the texting.
The spending thing can be tricky. In our situation my hubby will tell me things about what the skids want to buy. Most of the time we agree but the times we don't..he will sometimes sneak it by me. This is something he learned to do when he was married to his 2nd wife, aka: The Slut. She treated his children poorly and would not let him spend a dime on them, so he would sneak it by her and tell the kids not to tell her. I have assured him that I am not like her and that I try to look at things objectivly.
I get really pissed off if he
I get really pissed off if he gives her more money....Goddam it...thats called divorce...you no longer have access to this mans wallet cos you are now divorced....
My DH pays more than he has to...which is gunnu be cut soon too...and she still thinks that he has to bow to her and give her what she requires...I have actually said to DH today this:
"how dare that slut think she still has access to your wallett for wen ever she is running short.....you are divorced...thats what divorced means...no more access to the ex husbands money....tell her no...and you can tell her I said so'! 'Pay her what the court order requires and not a bloody cent more' she can go work two jobs if she loves her kids so much that she wants to give them everything....but no...its just easier to call you and make you feel like Guilty Dad so you will give in...well not anymore...and wheres your lawyers phone number so I can give them the goss on her PAS and her slander towards, me, you, your family, and my kids.' and then hopefully we can take her to court and make her repay the money she owes from the court order to pay the 20k worth of your Credit cards....
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phew....and then he showered and went to work....
cant wait to see what comes next.
My BF cannot stop thinking
My BF cannot stop thinking about skid for a second. It pisses me off to no end when we are on vacation (maybe a total of 7 days per year) and BF is constantly texting skid. We went to a tropical paradise and BF spend the entire time taking picture on this phone and sending them to skid. I asked him to please enjoy our time together, and of course that made him mad and he said that whatever would make skid happy was what he was going to do. Basically, said I could go to hell. He spends most of his days pampering skid in person, falling over himself to buy him things and massage him, and quiz him endlessly about the details of every moment of his day (he is 12 by the way). After I deal with that...he can't focus on me and us for a few vacation days? Makes me puke. I imagine my stupid boyfriend thinks that when skid grows up, and is on vacation with his girlfriend, he will be texting pictures to his daddy buddy? Right.
BM rarely calls or texts. I
BM rarely calls or texts. I don't like the texting between SD and SS because I always feel like something is coming or I'm going to be "surprised" by bad news. SD always has some stupid drama going on. Most of the time SO tells me.
BUT there are things he isn't going to tell me because its no big deal or he doesn't want to admit it. I handle it by reading his texts when he is in the bathroom. I mostly never find anything interesting so my curiosity is satisfied if I miss some.
One day, I was really angry and lost some respect for SO. He texted SD15 some whiney stuff about being sad when he dropped them off and he had to drive around for a while because he started crying. How he still feels like they are down the hall in their rooms. :sick:
Of course, I never tell him or let on that I know these things.
alwaysanxious...your
alwaysanxious...your great....I wanna hug you...so funny...
we were in bed early the other night...lying there...bit of hugging going on, bit of kissing when next thing the bloody phone went off...
so DH looks at the phone...OMG its the golden fat boy calling (SS12)
He was say goodnight daddy...(i cld hear the talk)
DH asked what he has on for school tomorrow and had he done his homework (I was starting to puke at this stage...)
Then DH was about to say goodbye when ss12 interupted him saying stuff like "Daddy mommy wants to know....blah blah blah...." I couldnt hear much or decifer the rest...so now Im bugged...
I was thinking that bitch is going to try and dumb the brats on us for our wedding anniversary
oh no...it appears that the ex BM slag has told the skids that she cant afford the christmas presents that they wont and has said....ASK YOUR FATHER PERHAPS HE CAN CONTRIBUTE TO SOME OF THE PRICE''''
wtf.???....hang on....aint this a nice little spicy way to make me look like the bitch cos Ill be putting my foot down...now...I cant say anything to DH yet as I snuck a look on his phone and saw the txt off the ss12 saying 'well can you tell me how much you can put in for my xmas present'
so guys, wtf do you think of this crap?
Actually i find this the most
Actually i find this the most disturbing....
"we were in bed early the other night...lying there...bit of hugging going on, bit of kissing when next thing the bloody phone went off...
so DH looks at the phone.."
exactly.... Its Very
exactly....
Its Very annoying!
Ugh! gross. I know for a
Ugh! gross.
I know for a fact that SO has gotten texts or call from skids during "initiation" and if he'd turn to his phone. I'd just to go sleep. Huge mood killer.
(((((hugs to you)))))
oh...UPDATE... Apparently
oh...UPDATE...
Apparently after calling his father re the xmas present.....(i have since found out it wants a laptop) he then called his grandma...DH's mother and asked her if she could buy him one.....
what should one do about skids that do that....?
Ignore them.
Ignore them.
Thats what I plan to do -
Thats what I plan to do - ignore all the requests for gifts from now on. You think BM is so freaking wonderful? Great - she can buy you a new laptop. I'll save my money to buy fun things for me and BD2.