I'm am so mad right now...
DH just pissed me right off.
So my ExH is having a kid friendly halloween party (we get along great and so does DH and ExH) and since I have the boys and DH has the girls, we decided we would all go. I also invited some other friends.
Then, BM's sister inquires to what we are doing that night because she wanted to go trick or treating with us and her daughter. I let her know sure and let her know that we were all heading over to the boys' dad's house for the party so we would only go for a little bit. So she then proceeds to invite herself to the party. I was like, "sure, whatever".
So then DH gets a call from BM asking if it would be a problem if she shows up too with her sister. DH said he would have to ask me first.
WTF?!?!
So I talked about it with some friends and they all said I should put it back on DH and let him tell her that HE would be uncomfortable and that it wasn't a good idea.
So we discussed and he thought I should call her and tell her she's not invited. He doesn't think it's a big deal and thinks I'm silly for letting her ruin the day. Why should I care? He doesn't let it bother HIM. My thoughts are they can all just go without me.
GRRRRRRR....I am so pissed off right now, I don't even want to go home.
Am I completely off my rocker here? Or is this just plain ridiculous???
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oh god, hell no....I
oh god, hell no....I wouldn't want to hang out with the BM...or BM's sister for that matter, but thats just me. I'd make him tell her that neither of you want her to go! Its his ex-wife, he should be responsible for keeping her out of your life.
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If she goes, there will no doubt be some type of drama!! Drama drama drama, it's like she feels that it is her place to be anywhere your dh is.... I'm sure you dh really don't want her there, but like most men-act like they just don't care-that is what ticks me!! So, he wants to blame it on you, that you are the one who don't want her to come, but it's ok with him... Ge'ez
You can go tricking...when they go treating, hmmmmmm.
Stepwitch
Thank you Disney for portraying a positive image on all stepmothers!!!!
Drama...
Now there's the understatement of the century.
"For every ailment under the sun....There is a remedy, or there is none;
If there be one, try to find it; If there be none, never mind it." ~ W.W. Bartley
Ok, so your DH is OK with a party @ XH's but .....
you are not OK with the XW in-law going? I am not quite sure if I get the issue here. I understand that you, DH and XH all have a decent relationship. What is the issue with the BM joining the great big happy blended family circle.
I am sure there are issues with the BM that you have posted on and I certainly understand wanting to limit her presence in your life. However, the extended nature of the party and the focus being on the kids maybe it is worth calling a truce for one evening?
This is not the easiest thing for me to do because in our case Bio-Dad is a worthless moron and I for sure would not want him anywhere near the party if it was my situation you describe. But, our family and his family to not ever blend except that SS belongs to both families.
Your husband making you the bad guy though is certainly an issue IMHO.
BTW, I think it is great that you, DH and XH all get along well. It has to be a good thing for your kids.
Good luck and best regards,
You're right, Rags, you don't "get it"
"you are not OK with the XW in-law going? I am not quite sure if I get the issue here"
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The BM has caused issues in the past, and "inviting herself" along with her sister to this party is just plain wrong.
While it would be nice to play the "Can't we just all get along?" game, it's clear, from her past pattern of behavior, THIS BM (as MANY of the BMs in our lives) is totally incapable of doing so. And having the sister along for the ride, egging her on, there's bound to be drama.
I'm guessing Colorado Girl is just regretting her decision because she knows the other shoe is bound to drop at some point if she and the sister come to this party.
No, some people just CAN'T play nice- not even for one night!
"If you have never been hated by a child, you have never been a parent."
-Bette Davis
Thanks 5teens
It seems when I present the issue to the people who know me and her and the whole situation.... they are all looking at me puzzled and saying, "why in the hell would she want to go?!?"
So there's the issues? Why in the world would she want to go? I can only guess her intentions...one has to be crazy to understand crazy.
"For every ailment under the sun....There is a remedy, or there is none;
If there be one, try to find it; If there be none, never mind it." ~ W.W. Bartley
Ouch...
Rags is giving tough love, but in a way I get it here. I remember when my sons' SM had to pull the plug on her son coming to my house, because he told his BP father about it, and he wanted to have my sons over too. I had to bite the bullet and it was unfair to the kids, but now that SM's ex has been arrested for murder (yes you read that right) I am thankful she nipped it in the bud. The fact that you're attending your exH's party but don't want his exW there, no matter how justified, is likely seeming confusing to her, and to DH perhaps?
Why don't you have DH tell her that your exH feels uncomfortable in that situation. Maybe that can be your out.
I'm so sorry, as I know you were really excited about the party, and having to deal with her drama will likely take away from the evening for everyone.
Hopefully, DH will step up and realize that your exH is NOT the same as hanging out with BM.
OOOOhhhh....maybe you should tell him that the reason it's different is that hanging out with BM for you, would be like DH hanging out with BS's BF? That's a more comparable personality.
"Om Tare Tutare Ture Mama Ayurpunye Jnana Putin Kuru Svaha"
~Sita Tara Mantra
I thought...
you'd understand better than anyone.
How would you feel if your exH and wife were throwing a party and because SD was there...BM thought she could go? I know you can say it would never happen...but what if?
It makes the party revolve around her actions and reactions.
I'm uncomfortable and that should be one of the factors of why DH should of said no. Isn't that important to anyone? Or is it ALL about keeping the peace between DH and BM. Don't I sacrifice enough? Or does it now overflow into MY family functions with MY friends?
Whatever...he's not going to call her and neither am I so....it is what is.
"For every ailment under the sun....There is a remedy, or there is none;
If there be one, try to find it; If there be none, never mind it." ~ W.W. Bartley
But I do...
Sorry if I didn't express that well. My Sita/Zen expression skills are lacking lately.
"Om Tare Tutare Ture Mama Ayurpunye Jnana Putin Kuru Svaha"
~Sita Tara Mantra
I understand the hypocrisy theory here...
I really do. And I appreciate the tough love...I promise.
BUT...it's not the same. DH, exH and I all excercise proper boundaries and mutual respect. BM doesn't understand boundaries and she is in her upswing cycle right now where she has latched onto DH. DH is notorious for embracing the inappropriate idolizing behavior towards him because he detests the other side of her bipolar spectrum.
My girlfriend said it so right last night....DH needs to realize that we should not have to live our lives based on her mood of the day...if she was acting like she was two months ago, the question of whether or not she was able to attend would be absolute.
Again, it seems her mood swings are defining my life once again.
"For every ailment under the sun....There is a remedy, or there is none;
If there be one, try to find it; If there be none, never mind it." ~ W.W. Bartley
OK, OK, I am beginning to develop clarity on this.
CG et al,
I call Uncle on this one. I just thought I would ask from the perspective of a less than fully informed third party.
I have a very good friend that has two XW's and two blended families (3 kids with XW1 and one with XW2)who gets along very well with his second X but despises his first X. For some reason the second blended family can do the joint holiday thing with all four kids, boyfriends, girlfriends, neighborhood riff raff, etc ...... Any time XW1 gets involved all hell breaks loose.
I guess your Halloween Party situation is kind of like his deal. When the XW In Law shows up is when the trouble starts.
Do I have clarity yet? :?
I just thought I would ask.
Good luck and best regards,
I think...maybe...
and I DO appreciate the "other take" on the situation at hand.
The relationship comparison between myself/my ExH and DH/his exW is like comparing apples and oranges.
I don't go to sporting events, P/T conferences, band recitals, school plays, or whatever because SHE prefers me not to go. I sacrifice these things so she can enjoy her children without MY intrusion, and the girls can enjoy a happy mother instead of the miserable beast she mutates into just at the site of me.
I think the bottom line is that REGARDLESS of the reasons behind my discomfort, don't I have the right to enjoy a Halloween Party by MY friend (who happens to be the father of my children also making him MY family) without the intrusion of BM? I have to endure her on a regular basis when it comes to the majority of my day-to-day life.
I don't know how to make it more clear to DH. He insists that he cares but just doesn't want to rock the boat since they are getting along so well. He has a vision of having a relationship with BM like I have with my ex. I can't make him understand that it will never be possible because of BM's inability to function in a relationship while excercising proper boundaries. It's the same pattern he had while they were married...she always gave him hope while in the euphoric stage of her mania. I, on the other hand, accept her manic behavior and understand the need for distance to help HER sanity as well as ours.
"For every ailment under the sun....There is a remedy, or there is none;
If there be one, try to find it; If there be none, never mind it." ~ W.W. Bartley
Your statement says volumes
"I can't make him understand that it will never be possible because of BM's inability to function in a relationship while excercising proper boundaries."
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I think a lot of husbands wonder this very same thing when they see their current wife get along with her ex-spouse.
And in my case, my stepdaughters wonder the same things, too! They often see me and my ex have very pleasant phone exchanges, and not the heated, nasty exchanges their parents have.
They have seen my ex (and his new wife, as well as my ex in-laws) at my home, and know I have been to theirs- all without WWIII occuring. They know I speak often to my boys' stepmom cordially, because I make sure they hear me .
And they often ask their father, "Why can't you and 5teens get along the way she gets along with her ex and his wife?"
And the answer is SO simple! Because I'm not CRAZY! And neither is my ex or his new wife.
See how nice it can be when all the parties involved are emotionally stable and reasonably mature?
"If you have never been hated by a child, you have never been a parent."
-Bette Davis
That's just it..
and that is what makes it hard for us stepmoms who know that it can ACTUALLY be done!
It seems so crystal clear to the rest of us.
"For every ailment under the sun....There is a remedy, or there is none;
If there be one, try to find it; If there be none, never mind it." ~ W.W. Bartley
wow... MY friend (who
wow...
MY friend (who happens to be the father of my children also making him MY family)
so by your logic, BM is your DH's family because she is the mother of his children...I wouldn't go there!
But they are...
and I think your logic and my logic will never be in sync.
We have very different views on many different things.
"For every ailment under the sun....There is a remedy, or there is none;
If there be one, try to find it; If there be none, never mind it." ~ W.W. Bartley
What you're experiencing is very similar to me
I have issues with the bm ingratiating herself into our life. I blame H because he allows it and doesn't put his spineless little foot down because he doesn't want to rock the boat. Well, unfortunately sometimes the boat needs to be rocked.
When an H allows a bm and/or her family to be intertwined into his new family, he's creating confusion all around. Case in point...my H had allowed bm unfettered access to our home before we were seriously involved. As we got more serious, bm was unable to grasp the concept of "you don't live here anymore" and it has and still causes huge problems for us. H wants to be tolerant of bm for the sake of the kids, BUT he does not fully grasp the depth of HURT he's causing me and our relationship. It seems to be true for alot of steps...we feel icky inside about having to deal with bm and all her people. I feel alot of times like the runner up...miss ass-face 1998 couldn't perform her duties so she had to give her crown to the runnerup...me. It makes me feel crappy alot of the time because as steps are fully aware, we are always confronted with baggage from our H's past life. What we as the new wife, gf, fiancee, whatever want, is to build a new life with H with as little baggage as possible. Of course none of us want H to give up his kids or not be a parent. What I personally want is just to put the past in the past and go forward with a NEW life. That means no bm in our life. Yes they share kids, yes they co-parent, but that is IT...PERIOD! There is absolutely no need for any contact beyond that which involves the kids. Having some big group Halloween or Christmas or birthday is just weird and confusing. Case in point, my H has been doing separate birthdays since his divorce. SS12 says he wishes his dad could come to the amusement park with everyone for his birthday...I tell him that his parents are divorced so that isn't how it works...you get two birthdays instead of one which is kinda cool...but I understand it must hurt to not have the same things you had when you were a little kid. SS understood and realized he was lucky to get twice as many gifts now. But this all would have been avoided had H been firm in setting clear boundaries in the years past...explain to the kids that they are divorced and there are new rules now. They are not stupid, kids do actually get it. What confuses them is when parents pop in and out of one another's house like they still live there, even though they've been with a new partner in a serious relationship/marriage. Kids need consistency and to understand things and you are not doing them favors by saying mommy and daddy are divorced, and remarried to new people, but it's still ok for them to go running around in and out of each other's house. It's sending them the confusing message that maybe one day they'll get back together and gives them false hope.
It's just easier for everyone involved to just keep firm boundaries. Stand your ground girl!
Hugs
BM tries to involve her self with everything SD does
BM thinks she comes with SD as a package deal and feels that even though it is your time why can't you all just go together. My FH's ex is like this and even though she they have been broken up for 16 years she thinks she should be included in evertyhing. Nobody wants her around. Seperate households, seperate lives. I don't believe in playing this we all get along BS. I know some people will do that for the sake of the kids but I don't act fake. I'm sure BM is scary enough to have a good halloween by herself. DH should just email her and tell her that you guys are doig your own thing.
DH is being fully uncooperative...
But I'm getting over it.
I have quite a few friends who are coming (including anahibik from this site!!!) and the rest are my ex in-laws including his two sisters who absolutely adore me...
If she feels the need to be uncomfortable amongst MY family and friends...that's her problem. DH can bug off too at this point.
"For every ailment under the sun....There is a remedy, or there is none;
If there be one, try to find it; If there be none, never mind it." ~ W.W. Bartley