Insulting on the premise of caring - the good part is at the end
BM and I had a chat last night and this morning. She keeps insisting that if BF really wanted what was best for SS that he'd drop the whole custody thing because it's "not what SS wants" and is "pushing SS away". She never has understood that just because she says SS feels a certain way doesn't make it true and doesn't make us believe her, especially when we're told straight from the horse's mouth that what she says isn't how he really feels. I wish we could record the conversations that we have with SS where he tells us how much he can't stand his Mom, and when he talks about how much she hurts his feelings and tries to make him feel guilty about enjoying his time with us. I'd like her to see videos of when he cries because he has to go home and holds onto his dad for dear life before they leave to make the trip to her house. I'd like to see what she thought about that. I asked her if she honestly believed that everything SS told her was the truth and everything SS told us was a lie, because that's what she's asking us to believe. Why is it OK for her to believe SS when he tells her how he supposedly feels but BF is expected to not believe SS? He's his son. Who wouldn't believe their own son? Then she told me that he should just drop the petition because it's "based on allegations that are totally untrue." I said that the only allegation BF has made is that she's unemployed. If that wasn't true and she had a job, there would be no petition. She said that she has a weekly income so in the eyes of the law she has a job. I said that if she had a job then I would think she would provide proof of that to BF's lawyer since she wants this dropped so badly. She said that in the eyes of the law, getting paid unemployment is the same as being employed because you still have a steady income so therefore it is seen as the same thing. I said it was oxymoronic to consider yourself employed as unemployed, and that there was a difference between working for your money and sitting at home getting paid to not work.
Then because she realized she was getting nowhere with me on that point, she started in on how "BF never took interest in SS from the beginning" and if he really cared about SS then he would just walk away completely. She actually said that sometimes doing the right thing meant walking away. What? What kind of a father would that make him if he was to give up his rights to SS? BF took a very big interest in SS from the beginning but unfortunately because BM decided to take a year off from work after he was born, BF had to work 60+ hours a week to make ends meet. Then when BF got home BM wouldn't let him feed, change, or even spend time alone with SS. But yet she claims he never took interest and uses that as an excuse to call him a bad father and say he should "just walk away" now.
Then, this is the kicker. She says that if he was to give up his rights to SS that he would be able to focus on me and my child, and that my child would be entitled to everything from BF and it would make things easier on us. WTF? Why would I ever, ever want the man that I love to give up his child? I can't believe she even thought that that would sound appealing to me. She actually asked if I would ask him to do it! I'm sorry but I don't just run away when things get tough and I'm not just in this for an easy ride and some extra spending money. I go to work every day and bust my ass to bring home my livelihood, and I'm proud to have made it to where I am on my own. I am 23 and own two homes (on my own, BF doesn't own any part of them), I'm department head at work in a salaried position with commission and benefits, I have a wonderful boyfriend of four years and a baby on the way. How would BF giving up his rights to SS help me out at all? And what kind of person would that make me if I asked? "Honey, I'd really like it if you would give up your rights to your son so that you can better focus on raising our daughter." Uh, no. Sorry BM, I'm not selfish like you!
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first, I applaud you for
first, I applaud you for trying to have this conversation. It sounds like you are left talking to the wall when trying to reason with her though! I was explaining to SD a couple of weeks ago how some people define the world around them by their own self image. Like yours, our BM sees her self as the ever suffering mother who is put upon by everyone, my F, her daughter, etc. She is ALWAYS right, and everyone else is trying to attack her family. F is a deadbeat who has screwed her over repeatedly, and who doesn't give a damned about SD except as a way to mess with her. Anything that happens that does not conform to that world view is either a lie, or is spun by her to be for some totally insane justification that gels with her perceived image. It doesn't matter how much your BF tried to hold the baby, tried to care for the baby, after working 60 hours, he DIDN'T, and that's all she's going to aknowledge ever.
I try to feel sorry for BM b/c of this. thinking about all the things she's missing in life b/c she's so small minded. It's hard though, when she impacts SD and F, people I love, with her hurtful insanity...
As far as giving up rights, just more evidence. Even if he did it, she wouldn't be happy. It would just give her the "evidence" she needed to be self righteous and bad mouth him until the end of time. No mention of it being what she wanted and demanded, ever!
She's crazy to think he'd do that, good for you for standing up to her!
from my SD, the reason we're going through it all....:
o, btw, my dad and *northernsiren* are the best family a girl(and boy) could ever hope for. Thank you for helpping me through these hard times.
Can you say
mentally ill? Sounds to me like she needs professional help. I would request a mental evaluation during the custody hearing! Good luck...
Nyhm...
you are AWSOME! BM knows it, and it intimidates the hell out of her. Of course she wants BF to walk away.....she knows she's gonna lose! It's alot easier for her to have him drop everything, and let her "win", than what she fears she has coming to her, a huge reality smack upside that empty head of her's You keep pressing on, that sweet chid needs you & dad, & his future sib. . "~waiting on the world to change~"
HaHaHa!
I love to read your post cause I swear our BM's sound the same! She tells H all the time she will be glad when we have a kid of our own so we can leave hers alone! WHAT? H is not going to disregard his son b/c he is having another child! And secondly he is not a piece of property! Our BM says that we could have gotten our child support reduced via welfare department instead of going through this whole custody ordeal....Get a clue it is not about the money it is about getting more time with SS. She says the same things that your BM says about SS does not want us, he hates us etc. And God love his heart the best thing by far about ss is he loves us all despite how some of us act (his BM!). Hang in there. Expect more of this crap from her to try and talk you out of it!
Exactly!
BM has said those exact words to me I couldn't tell you how many times. "If you want a child, have one, but LEAVE MINE ALONE!" or "I can't wait until BF gets you pregnant so he'll leave me and MYYY son alone!"
What is it with these women that makes them think men are only capable of caring about one child at a time?
And the money thing, she's said the same thing to us as well. She said if BF wanted so badly to avoid paying her CS then he should just give up his rights to SS instead of trying to get custody of him. Uh, sorry but getting custody is going to cost BF a lot more money than what he's paying you now in CS. Why is it always all about the money? Why can't she understand that he wants more time because he cares about SS?
*~So sayeth Nymh~*
Manipulation
There see, she DOES have a career!