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Teachers -- Do you send skids to daycare and keep bios?

SteppingUp's picture

I was a teacher before meeting my DH and becoming a step parent. We moved and I couldn't get my foot in the door at any schools, but now I finally have a teaching job again! It's been going really well but I'm starting to think about summer vacation and I'm extremely torn. I have to keep my BS3 in daycare half time to keep his spot. I'm excited to save some money there and of course, to spend quality time with my son.

We have my SD9 and SS6 every other week, from Sunday to Sunday. This may sound awful but there are a few different reasons why I do not want the skids to be MY responsibility from 8-5 M-Fri all summer long. But I know I'm going to be made to feel really guilty about this and that I'm going to have to defend myself against both the skids, the BM (who by the way, would likely LOVE to have me watch the skids for her -- for free -- so she could get out of having a full-time daycare bill all summer), AND my husband.

I know I'm going to hear from the skids, "But you don't have to work, so why can't we stay with you? Why does SON get to?"

Any other teachers in this predicament? What do you do???

I'm not really concerned about our "off" weeks. But on the other weeks when we DO have the skids, I'm simply not sure what explanation I should give to them that they can't sleep in, and that I'm dropping them off at daycare but not my son. I don't want to hurt their feelings but there is also no way that BM will pay me for watching them. However, I'd hate to blame it on that and throw her under the bus and start a little war -- then have her say that she WILL pay me and then I'm stuck. They're always fighting, my son is always the one that gets hurt or is crying. It's not fun…not to mention the extra costs of feeding them and trying to get things done or do activities, etc.

Andddd…I think my husband still lives in a little fairy tale land that I would WANT to have them the whole time so I'm crossing my fingers I won't hear any comments from him on not keeping them. I don't think he would do so to be mean, but more naively say, "Well why don't you just keep the kids instead of rushing to get them to daycare?" and then I'll feel like evil stepmother if I don't do that. I'm totally open to having them maybe one afternoon a week or something and making that our "fun day". But I REALLY don't want to feel OBLIGATED to do this.

I'd like to hear how other teachers handle summer vacation with skids and bios!

I appreciate any thoughts.

just.his.wife's picture

Explain to hubby you are a teacher, not a babysitter.

That in your 'professional' opinion his children will retain far more of the information learned during the school year if they are in a structred/ educational envirnment. You can also pull the line of "It is not healthy for their psychies to have more face to face time with their step parent than with their actual parents, it can create conflicts in loyalties and lead to their having emotional issues and acting out.

Now, your son is your son. He is not school aged so 'retention' is really not an issue and additionally it is far better for a child to spend more time with their parent than the day care.

Granted, most of the above it utter BS that I just made up off the top of my head. Put a little thought into it, make it convincing.

Or tell him BOTH he and BM have to pay you to keep the kids. Name a price that is 2x their currently weekly rates.
If they elect to pay: Collect the $$, take the kids to day care and pocket the difference, explain later to BM and DH that you were teaching them a both a lesson in convenience vs practicality and they both failed.

askYOURdad's picture

I kind of have a crush on you Wink lol!

This is fantastic advice!

I like it way better than what I posted.

askYOURdad's picture

I'm not a teacher, so outside perspective here, but I do work and I found quite a few summer day camps in the area for my bios to do this summer while I'm at work. They were cheaper than daycare and have field trips/swimming and stuff my kids are interested in. I wonder if you found a few of those and then maybe committed to one or two weeks to being with the kids if that would be a good compromise?

SteppingUp's picture

This is a great suggestion and of course I have thought about this. The problem is that BM would never pay for any of that.

Also, they already go to after school care (a private daycare we've used for years) and that would just transition into full time during the summer. I'd LOVE to get them into some longer camps and such, I think it'd be great. But it would come down to spending money on that…which would actually cost MORE per week than daycare, in most cases that I've looked into around our area.

Disneyfan's picture

Are there any Boys and Girls clubs, Salvation Army or Beacon programs in your area? They had free or low cost day camps that are not based on income.

DF has tried to pull the money card on me a few times. So I searched around for camps that he could afford. Kinda hard to complain about something that is free.

askYOURdad's picture

I figured the cost might come up as an issue. Sad It just stinks because I really feel like it would be win-win. For whatever reason daycare has the perception of "I don't want to watch you" where summer camp has the perception of "you get to go do something fun today and dad will pick you up after"

tabby yabba do's picture

Not a teacher, but a SAHM here.

Not your monkeys, not your circus.

You are under no obligation to parent any children this summer who aren't yours. If you choose to do care for children that are not yours, that's another thing.

You don't owe your DH an explanation of why you "don't want to" - these are his children and he needs to find reasonable accommodations for them this summer.

I don't have my DD11 2-3 days/every week during the summer (goes to her BFs). DH knows those are days I'm "free" of kids and he has to either negotiate with me to watch them, or find other arrangements. I'm not the fall-to guy for free child care. Some days I am willing to take them, usually I am not. We work it out in advance so my DH isn't stuck last minute scrambling.

But I know I'm going to be made to feel really guilty about this and that I'm going to have to defend myself against both the skids, the BM (who by the way, would likely LOVE to have me watch the skids for her -- for free -- so she could get out of having a full-time daycare bill all summer), AND my husband.

Until your BM starts watching your kid for free, or until skids start paying your mortgage, or until you expect your DH to parent your child 24/7, then there is nothing to defend. You only feel guilty because you believe the skids, BM and DH are right in assuming you're supposed to act like a doormat. Why do you buy into their assumption?

hereiam's picture

Stand your ground. Say what you are going to say, whether it be what just.his.wife suggested or something else but then be done. Don't keep defending your decision, that just gives them more chances to argue with you and try to poke holes in your reasoning.

And truth be told, you do not need a reason other than "I don't want to" or "I don't think it's a good idea" or "That doesn't work for me". You don't actually have to give a "why".

People want the "why" so they can try to counter and talk you into seeing it their way.

SteppingUp's picture

Yes, you are SO right. We often hear the same responses from BM about random stuff…"That doesn't work for me." so I DEFINITELY need to use that.

Disneyfan's picture

I deal with this every year. For some odd reason DF, thinks I will change my mind about having SDs9&6 stay home with me during the month they are with us each summer. No, nope ain't gonna happen.

He says I should be OK with them staying home since they are only with us for one month. "You still have all of August to rest and relax."

"No, I have the whole summer to do what I want because your kids are going to camp." }:)

onthefence2's picture

I was a teacher many years ago before I had kids. It literally took the WHOLE summer to recover from putting up with others' brats for the entire school year. I couldn't imagine putting up with someone's brats in my home all summer on top of it. Just say no, and tell them far in advance. You will likely have to bring this up since they are likely just assuming you will do it.

SteppingUp's picture

I know, right? I need some major time to recuperate! Having kids and teaching is HARD. I feel like I'm going to need 4 weeks just to sleep and repair damaged brain cells.

Willow2010's picture

DH: So you will be watching the skids this summer right?

Stepping: Oh No. Didn't I tell you? Since I am working now, I figure I get rewarded with my time off, so I will be taking my time off for ME, not babysitting.

DH: But but but...you will have bio so no big deal right?

Stepping: hmmm..I must not be explaining this right. No DH I will be unable to babysit the skids this summer. And PS..I do NOT babysit MY bio.

DH: So unfair!!!!

Stepping: I am sorry you feel that way.

DH: So you will watch the kids?

Stepping: NO. NO. NO. Repeat as called for.

SteppingUp's picture

Thanks everyone! I appreciate all of this, and I can definitely hold my own with DH and BM.

It's the kids giving me the sad faces that I will have a hard time with…My SD9 is VERY argumentative and always wants to know WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY, but WHY? So I know this is going to be interesting.

I think I constantly feel like because BM doesn't care about spending time with her kids that I should be picking up her slack. And I feel like maybe I'm going to be judged the same way by people who know us, that we're so judgmental of how BM never spends quality time with her kids and takes every opportunity she has time off to go do something WITHOUT her kids, that I'm going to look JUST as bad if I do the same???

tabby yabba do's picture

Of course you'll look bad. You're a SM! Everything you do will be judged by someone as bad, not good enough, worthy of blame, selfish, mean, unreasonable, non-maternal, unloving, wrong.

Get over it. Smile And come here for the occasional tune-up when you believe that BS.

hereiam's picture

Don't look at them and wear ear plugs. Smile

I definitely can relate to wanting to pick up the slack of the BM, BUT they are not your kids and there's nothing you can do that makes up for a negligent mother, not in the long run.

I think us SMs just have to get past what others think about us. They just have no clue. I have been judged by my own sisters.

Needalifeboat's picture

I agree with Willow, you need to stand your ground. Teaching is a demanding (and often thankless unfortunately) job and you deserve your summer for YOU and to spend time with your bio. To do whatever it is you want, make plans, relax, ets. It's the parents responsibility to figure out the summer plan, not yours.

I have a bit of a different, somewhat relatable situation. I work from home. Summers are especially stressful for me because of having my 3 bio kids who want to go out and do stuff all the time, not understanding that I have to work. It's like, "Hey you're home! Take me to a friend's house, lets go to lunch, I want to go to the pool." Frustrating but I haven't been able to afford summer child care so it's what I deal with. I overheard SO telling skids that they'll be able to spend extra time here this summer because I work from home. Ummm...sorry? No.

I still have to deal with my situation, but I'm not home to watch skids, I'm working. They are not my responsibility.

jumanji's picture

Tell the kids they will have more fun with kids their own ages than with you and the baby. But if they insist? You'd be more than happy to set up a summer school so they don't forget everything they learned and will be ahead when school starts up again.

StepLady's picture

Honestly I think it is just stupid to pick up kids and enroll them in care. If no one wants to be around them, leave them at home, where they may be wanted and where they probably have neighborhood friends etc. Let them stay with their mom. Taking them to your home and shipping them out in nonsense. You know it will create waves. Maybe talk to BM and only bring them on weekends. I would not bring my skids here to farm them out. When my ex takes my dd for the summers, he takes a lot of his time off, and he brings his parents to stay with him and care for her. It is a special time for all of them. If she were in day care I would not send her at all. Why would I when she could be home with her friends and family?

SMto2's picture

I was going to post this initially, as it was our rationale for not getting my SSs for all 4 weeks in the summer when my DH really could only be off of work for one week. However, I think what makes this situation different is that these folks have 50/50 custody, one week on, one week off, so it's not visitation but a permanent living arrangement. Seems much more problematic to just leave them at mom's all summer because they're not in school during the day, but I agree it is not a good situation to bring them there just to have a few hours with dad during the evenings.

SMto2's picture

I never said she was under any obligation to provide free daycare, so your post really is not responsive to me. If you're saying that you believe she has the right to spend her vacation anyway she wants, then I agree with you. While I won't be as crass as you, I did understand that she wants to rest and relax a good bit of it, which is understandable, but it usually does involve sitting on one's back side. Wink Unfortunately, this is not a black or white issue of whether she tells them no or not, as there will be fallout that could damage her marriage and her relationship with her step-children, as I discussed below, which I think she recognizes, which is why she is so torn.

SMto2's picture

"Andddd…I think my husband still lives in a little fairy tale land that I would WANT to have them the whole time so I'm crossing my fingers I won't hear any comments from him on not keeping them."

This is the part that would concern me most if I were in your shoes. I would not care one bit what BM or anyone else thought, but I would want it to be ok with my DH. I don't envy you. It sounds like your DH wants you to treat the SSs like your own & he will clearly realize that is not the case when you want SSs to go somewhere else for the day while your bio stays with you if you can't convince him otherwise. That has the potential to drive a real wedge between you, as unfair as it is.

Plus, it sounds like you don't want the SKs to be disappointed in you, either, but if you don't keep them, it will be abundantly clear to them that you don't love them like your own son. (I don't expect you to, but for the sake of a peaceful step-family, there are things you do if you want to have a good relationship and you refusing to keep them at all during the summer seems to be one of those things that will cause hostility and resentment.) (And believe me when I say I totally get why you don't want to do it, and I surely would not want to, either!) That's why I think the best solution is to agree to keep them some and send them to camps some, which you can explain away by saying you don't want them to be bored around the house with you and the little guy and you want them to have fun. Then perhaps you and your DH can take them on vacation a couple weeks as well.

Sounds like this year will set a precedent, and I can see this getting harder and harder when your bio is older & in school in a couple years, since you won't be able to say that you're just "holding the spot" for your son. I guess I'm lucky I never had to deal with this. My DH was entitled to 4 weeks of visitation in the summers with my 2 SSs and he never got to take it. We are both lawyers who work 50+ hours a week with basically one week off in the summer (if we're lucky.) In the early years, we could not afford to pay BM $1200/mo CS then $300-$400/week for a babysitter for the SSs those 4 weeks. (Our 2 DSs together have been in child care/school for 10 hours a day/5 days a week, their whole lives, which is the breaks of having 2 working parents.) Also, I felt like the above poster, that it seemed ridiculous to have them at the house all day while DH was at work and would only see them a few hours in the evening. My DH agreed, which is why we compromised and only took them when he could actually be off of work. Whatever you do, I think it is key that your DH is on board. good luck!

StepLady's picture

I agree she is under NO obligation at all to care for other kids, then leave them to their mother, who is obligated. My neice was taken from mom one week each month over the summer, no one took time off for her, she was sent to a babysitter that ended up calling my sister and telling her the child is lonely and bored and cries for mom and sister often. Dad and smom felt that was just "too bad" since it was "their" time and could spend it any way they pleased. I just think they kids lose out when that happens. If it is a fifty-fifty schedule, maybe she can do a bunch of free things around her town. We have a library program that runs each day, parents have to stay but it is free. We have a free zoo day once weekly in our town, we also have city workers that hang out at the parks, keeping them clean and safe. They bring toys and games and once a week a free lunch. Maybe she and her husband can have the kids less but do more with them? I no longer work outside the home. My husband owns his own businesses, he can take some time off for summer travel etc. I am not obligated to do anything for my skids. But I do care about them, and I enjoy their company most of the time. No one is perfect they annoy me and I them I am sure of that. But we try to juggle everything and keep the peace. If the kids are really troubled maybe use the time with them for some counseling etc.

GoodbyeNormaJean's picture

I'm not a teacher. I work from home. One of the biggest mistakes I made initially was allowing myself to become the "default" simply because I am home.

Train your husband starting NOW that he must not assume that you will accept responsibility for HIS children with someone else.

You have no parental rights when it comes to these kids. The upside to that is that you get to choose what level of parental responsibility you allow yourself to be saddled with.

That said, if you choose to put the kids in daycare, it may impact your finances by creating a situation where he has to pay to have them in care full time during the summer.

Still, I would be crystal clear in that he and BM should ALWAYS ASK me about stuff like this in the future, not assume that I will keep the kids during the day simply because I will be home with my own child.

Disneyfan's picture

When in the world did enrolling your kid in summer camp or day care become farming your kid out??? My son went to plenty of camps when he was a kid. He went on awesome trips with his camp friends and hung out with friends on the block in the evenings. We did family stuff on the weekends.

lili77's picture

IM not a teacher but I work as a Instructional Assistant so i get the same time off as you. first of all you should make it clear to your husband. those kids have a mother and a father, so they both have resposibilities with them, they are not toguther so it goes half and half, so why in hell should you guys have those kids the whole summer, im sorry my dear but i didnot open my legs to have those kids and no body asked me if i wanted to have them or not, on the other hand you married your husband knowing he has those kids, and Im assuming he would support you if one of your family members need your help, so you are helping your husband with his responsability which is half not the BM, so start by asking your husband to keep them only half of the summer. and if thats the case then it would be unfair for you to want to send your skids to child care and not yours, bc then you are not supporting your husband. would you want to have ur mother or any other family member who's coming to ur house and your husband saying send them somewhere else i dont tnink so, so why would you do that?? there are more questions too. does his kids respect you? do they help out? the 9 year old could easly do some chores, also tell your husband if he wants you to be there for them, he has to make them respect you, help you and appreciate you. i have a 9 year old SD she helps around when he comes, i told my husband if he wants me to be there for her, i want something back, respect help and appreciatio, she helps me out with small things like washing the dishes doing her own bed, picking up after herself, watching my 2 year old for a little bit while i get stuff done, and about making your little one cry tell your husband to talk to them about it, and if they dont listen their punishment would be to go to child care all day long, if nothing of what im telling you gets done then u have the righ to send them to child care all day long, bc is nt ur responsibility they have a mother