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hailtocasaer's picture

I've been married to my husband for less than 1 1/2. He has two adult boys 25,27 and I have two 21,23----three out of four are doing fantastic..His youngest (25yrs)did not finish high school and has not done well in life so far. When I married I didn't know this 25 year son was going to be our down fall. I didn't know the extent of my husband's co-dependency/enabling till NOW.His son can't keep a job(he seldom works),sleeps till 3pm daily (I know this because he's lived with us when he gets kicked out of his co-sharing apt/housing). He sleeps till 3p. doesn't do a damn thing and very honestly his father is okay with it unless I complain (I NOW often do). He remains in his fathers pocket. His son knows that his father has money and won't stop asking for money, money, money. His mom/family members are out of the picture as they don't want to deal with his him (their all cordial but none want to help him or live with him. My husband justifies all of this because he claims that his son has an illness..(blah,blah,blah bi-polar,etc)..My husband keeps a separate account of thousand dollars a month for what he told initially was to "SURPRISE ME WITH GIFTS"..yeah,right..it's to give to his son each month. He finally reached the end of all his friends relationship and ended up in our house AGAIN. if we don't take him in he would be homeless...Did I mentioned that prior to his new arrival "again in our home"...on his previous stay he stole my TV and my money (his dad and i weren't married yet and it was clearly my stuff he stole)...1 year 1/2 later he admitted he stole the tv and the monies and his dad didn't do a damn thing..I didn't call the police because I thought his father was going to handle it and he didn't. He is not living at our home but staying at a hotel at OUR EXPENSE OF $1,300 A MONTH!!!!!!!!!! he is finally moving out of the hotel just to move into MY property (mine before marriage-paid in full)--my husband said he is not moving inside the house but build him a room outside near the pool area!!! I told him how does that help anything..he will still need to come in to go to the bathroom,shower,watch cloths...NOT TO MENTION---when we leave town this damn 25 year old kid will know we are gone and STEAL again...he can break in (I have zero trust in him, I believe I hate him). Not to mention the time he consumes of my husband is unbelievable. He lies and manipulates my husband and as smart as my husband is--it's hard for me to see him act so stupid/dumb/weak and I'm not sure I'm not loosing my mind.

My husband has bought him a car that he immediately sold for cash (I might add the car was only worth 3,000). His father gave him a couple of guns for Christmas--no worries...this 25 year old boy already pawned this too for cash...you think that it's over?? NOPE...my husband goes back and buys the car back...he hasn't gone back to the pawn shop to buy the guns back but he WILL. Anything thing given to him he will PAWN..he smokes alot of pot...but I KNOW it's not pot that's doing this..he has to be on something stronger...

I'M LOSING MY MIND...I'M CRYING ALL THE TIME...his son is like a storm coming my way and the only thing I can do is get out the way...PLEASE, I absolutely know most of what y'all say...please say it so I can WALK....I need the strength to leave this wonderful man that loves his son more than me..He just won't ever let his son go homeless..I"m hoping something I read will give me strength to not wait for him to build something on my property for this kid to still from me (my husband doesn't show much concern about his stealing)..Please no Abbreviations as I don't know what hh,SS or anything of these abbreviations stand for....

PLEASE HELP ME..I"m going crazy..I can't stop thinking about all the problems I'm now in...I'm ashamed and embarrassed to end a relationship after only 1 1/2 year..we get along 100% fine zero problems until his SON is involved.

bearcub25's picture

My bio son was like this.

Its called tough love. When I kicked out my bioson, I also kicked out my 3yo grandson and could have never seen him again..
Its been 7 years and my son has finally grown into a man and things are good.

twoviewpoints's picture

If it's your home and property, why do you walk? DH is the one to go if anyone leaves. In the meantime, he does not have permission to build anything on your property. Nothing. I'm going to assume your area has ordinances and would need a building permit. You inform the office that they are not to issue permit.

Stepson didn't get this way overnight, obviously the stepson was and still is exactly who he was when you first said 'I do'. don't know what's taken you so long to get fed up and realize that it's only going to get worse, but that least now you're there. Inform your husband his son is not welcome on your property, in your home or anywhere near one dime of your personal finances. Don't just use it as a threat. Say it and mean it. Your husband has no intentions of ever being 'free' of this troubled adult child. Call your lawyer and get the ball rolling. Your husband has made it clear he will not stand with you and your marriage, so out he goes. Both of them.

Merry's picture

I almost ended my marriage after about the same amount of time you're talking about due to circumstances somewhat similar to yours.

I'll spare you the details of my story, but everyone (except my husband) knew his son was using drugs. Thousands of dollars (including MY money) went to "support" this kid at college (failed or dropped most classes). But there was always an excuse, always something my husband could use as "truth" to continue to send the kid more and more money.

End of the story was that I was done with the marriage if he didn't stop enabling his user son. The kid needed HELP, not money. But my husband just couldn't bring himself to leave his son stranded -- flat tire (right), roommate wouldn't pay share of rent (uh huh), another flat tire (mmmm, yeah), too broke for groceries (that was the best one). Eventually the kid got into rehab, has done very well, yet is still unable to hold a job so we're still sending money (which is contrary to the lessons learned in rehab -- he must be completely responsible for himself -- and I worry about that). But it's not anything like the money sieve it was.

You have to decide your bottom line. If this is intolerable to you, what can you do about it? If your husband won't change, then you need to change. And if that means living apart, ok. If it means divorce, ok. But you can't continue to live as you are. Your future is being sold out from under you to support this son who will never amount to anything unless he learns how to take care of himself. And that might mean falling as far as he can fall before he's willing to do anything about it. Maybe he needs to be homeless.

Will he consider counseling? He is damaging this manchild by enabling his bad behavior. All he is doing is teaching him that daddy will always bail him out.

Oh, and the other kids are resentful, whether they say so or not. My stepdaughter is wildly resentful of the money dumped on her brother while she worked her butt off to be a successful grownup.

hailtocasaer's picture

None of the other Adult kids know (they are all living in dependent lives..No one know the HELL hole I'm in. It is my home before marriage (it's paid off). My husband makes alot of money and this MANCHILD KNOWS very well how much he has.He uses every single excuse under the sun to get money and his father opens his wallet constantly.my problem is I'm retired now and my husband for the most part is the bread winner. He is at least giving his son as much money as possible/time/gives him presents like a child (obviously, undeserving)--I've lost and I know it.I've told him we can buy his son a trailer and pay for rent on the trailer...My husband won't have it because he will have to walk to far to work (a job he has only 1 day at for the 100th time) he doesn't last in any job.I'm crying and crying and I don't know where mind is at...I guess I'm upset that I did not know this would be our downfall...while dating him (yes, I knew his son was in his home) I just thought it was temporary...then he sold his house and moved into my home with his son...and then my troubles began..he moves in...he moves out..he steals..he moves out...he is now not even a mile from our house waiting to be brought back in again. As I sit here crying and typing

sandye21's picture

Since you own the house you do not have to walk away. As hard as it seems right now, you know in your heart you have to put your foot down. Period. Three years ago I was in a similar situation, treated like crap and unwelcome in a house I owned. I banned SD from my home and told DH he could leave if he wanted to. I discovered that the real priority in DH's life was his OWN financial and social comfort, not SD's, not mine. And I'll bet this will be the case with you too.

onthefence2's picture

Present this idea to your dh. Give your ss one month to get a job and/or a place to live. At one month, give him a tent, sleeping bag, and a gift card to the local grocery store. If he did not find a place, he now has one. He does not NEED a shower. And if he wants one he can figure it out. He will not be homeless. He just needs to find a place to put up his tent. And tell dh if he doesn't go along with this idea to move him along, he can go ahead and leave with him. This is CRAZY ridiculous, and honestly it is my biggest fear. I plan to marry my boyfriend when the kids are older and out, but I've seen stories like this and it scares me to death!

hailtocasaer's picture

it's 5:13am and we had a big fight last night about this. Yes, we live in My house (that's paid for). yes, I'm retired and I have saving for my retirement (enough to last me a long time). My husband is makes a six figure salary. He too has a lot of money in saving for retirement. We are both financially set for the future...so one would think. It's the money that's presently coming into the house that his son is tapping into with my husbands permission. The majority of the money comes into "our checking account"...however, my husband has insisted since we met (and refuses to close down the account nor for me to even see that checking account)to keep a separate checking account....I know for a fact (because he show me through his paycheck) that only $1,100 per month goes into this separate account to take care of his son.

In a year 1/2 my husband and I get along/happily/loving and can't get enough of each other...his son is like a bad penny that keeps coming back at the age of 25 and my husband refuses to do anything about it..He has his son has mental illness (never really putting a name to it however, he does mention one of which I've heard before was Bi-polar. As mentioned I don't trust his son because he has stolen from me personally. My $700 dollar TV and monies I had in our bedroom. Last night my husband was going to start building a room for him in our back yard so he could live there---(being that his son is at IN-TOWN SUITES at $354 a week (yes, we are paying for that)...so we don't take that expense he thought he would bring him back to our home. I told me I don't like the idea because WHEN we leave on vacation or out of town...his son "WILL" break in and steal again. You can't buy this Manchild anything. His father gave him two guns for christmas....I found the two receipt in my husbands stuff where his SON has Pawned the guns his father gave him. He's had over 10 guitars (plays music)..all pawned...His father bought him a cheap $3000.00 car--yup his sold it WITHOUT A TITLE. His son gave the person who he sold the car to his father's phone number...and guess what his father did???guess....his father bought the car back from this man for $1,500.--he had every intention to give the car back to his son but I intervene (at a high cost I might add)...I usually get told his not my concern..My child is my problem. Blah, Blah...Anyways, I just started therapy two weeks ago and my husband is coming too...it's moving very slowly and clearly my husband has changed alot of his positions once he was put into the light (in the dark--he knew he could get away with it). My husband is a very smart man and knows what the therapist wants to hear and yes, some things have changed..I am now able to talk about his son openly and for a year in 1/2 I couldn't (again, he kept saying it was HIS problem and not mine).

I'm not happy--did not get any sleep last night. My fear is we are fairly well (both of us in our 50's)..I'm scare this manchild will stick around till we are old or until his father no longer knows what he is doing (as he does now--ONLY AND ONLY when it comes to his son) and give his son much more money that belongs to us for retirement--as well as the other children.

Both my husbands parents (grandparents), my husbands family members including his other son want anything to do with either than a quick "hello, how are you?" when they see him and nothing more. I'm moving slowly away from this only because this man is brilliant in every other facet of his life. He is lost in his son...all that comes to mind is that he is a major ENABLER AND VERY CO-Dependent on his son. His son has mentioned that he will commit suicide to his and that is my husbands fear. I'm telling you this kid doesn't miss anything.

Again, my husband says it's his mental illness with bipolar..I think it's DRUGS. he is very skinny. maybe he is 6'0 and about 100lbs (if that)...anyway, Heading back to bed...got up because I could stop crying. Thank you all for responding--I don't know y'all and I wish I did. Your helping more than you could ever know. Typing what I'm feeling is helping me sort out my own personal feelings.

I've rejoined Lifetime fitness and planning on spending most of my day over there as I did before I met my husband. My stress lever is high and I don't need a stroke...My blood pressure is bad and I know his son has everything bit to do with it and don't mention that to my husband.--cause I don't think it do any good.

When is son is not in the picture--our lives are perfect..However, My husband said he will forever provide "monies,home,food/shelter" for his son for the rest of his life (so, I just now feel I'm in the way). It will be a slow transition but my first step is the gym to get motivated to make my next move..WISH ME LUCK!!

Frustratedlady's picture

OMG I can not believe how much your story fits my story! Ditto on being married for only 1 1/2 years and ditto to dealing with a dysfunctional druggie thief of a stepson. I so feel your pain, frustration and tears!! Like the above poster stated it's time for you to GET ANGRY! That's exactly what I did. I got pissed and left all the while telling DH and his rotten kids to kiss my lily white a$$! Don't get me wrong, I tried everything in my power to make things work. But there is only so much you can do when it is one sided and you don't have the support of your DH.

I am personally here to tell you it was the best decision I could have made. Every since I have left that home, I realized that for the first time in my life, I am at peace in my heart, mind and soul. Little things that use to bother me, I am able to let just roll right off my back. I won't lie, I miss my DH a lot (or I should say I missed what we once had). So there are days of loneliness true, but I quickly am able to remind myself of what I do have and who I still have in my life that do care about me.

Please keep in mind that you did not raise this son of his. You are not the one that created the monster. Why are you being the one that has to feel all this pain and tears? How is that fair to you? Also ask yourself, if this were one of my kids acting this way towards DH, would he put up with it?

Chin up! You are stronger that you realize!

Merry's picture

Has your SS ever been evaluated for this mental disorder? If not, that's just cruel. Medication can be a huge help, including bipolar. I agree with you, this is no doubt a codependency situation and your DH is getting something out of this. I hope you can explore this with him in counseling.

We were also afraid that my SS might try suicide. It was a legitimate concern. He fortunately never did, not to my knowledge did he threaten it. But if he had, we would have immediately called a suicide hotline or other authority for help. They will do an evaluation, perhaps admit him for observation. It's not the kind of thing to fool around with -- he threatens, take him seriously every single time and call the emergency folks to intervene. You should hope that he has to spend some time in the psych unit for observation and evaluation. He needs it.

Valeria's picture

I am hoping I understand this correctly. Your husband has said he will support his son forever. He has the money to do so. You have a great relationship as long as his son is not in and around your home. His son shows no signs of being responsible for himself, ever. Your husband is OK with that as is demonstrated by his enabling.

Would a possible solution be to have your husband set up a trust fund for his son using his own finances under the condition that he never ever live or come into your home? Your husband needs to understand from you that it is YOUR home. Unless and until your husband makes arrangements for his son, with his own finances, that does not involve his son coming into your home for any reason, your husband should find other living arrangements. You do not have to be angry when you present this to him. It will mean much more if you are dead calm and logical. And mean it. You need to protect yourself as it appears your husband won't.

If your husband has not seen a therapist, he sure needs to (as long as he is willing and will listen). You probably need a therapist as well to help you and also an attorney. The most important thing is that you protect your assets and keep them separate from your husband.

His son is a dangerous person given his addiction and his probable associates (others who will steal and hurt someone to get what they want---a fix). I know all too well this scenario. It appears that you have very few options, the best one for yourself at this point is removing yourself from the relationship even if temporarily, because of your husband's relationship with his son. You need a breather and some time alone to think things through.

P.S. I have a couple of friends who have difficult adult children whom they basically pay to live elsewhere. They can afford it and it gives them peace of mind.

dadsnewwife's picture

I am amazed at how many SMs are out there who have experienced the same thing as you have AND I have! Luckily, SS21 after finishing rehab last Fall decided to live at a halfway house. I reached the end of my rope last summer after 3 years of his drug use and dh's enabling and wanted to walk, but, like you, my condo is mostly MINE. I thought if ANYONE should leave, it's SS21! Anyway, stand your ground. It's your house and let dh know you will tolerate no more! I know what it's like to love a dh, but still want to end it due to a loser, drug addicted SS. UGH Luckily, he's gone now, but it took a while for dh to realize I was disengaged and he didn't like it. He still wants to talk about his son (loser), but finally has "gotten it" that the ONLY thing I want to hear about his son is that he has either gotten a job or joined the military! He keeps saying how his son is mentally ill (whatever). I asked my counselor if he truly WAS ill after giving her details of what he was like and she said, "No. He's a drug addict which usually stems from having mental issues." So, there IS a difference. He is now on medications for those 2 things, but still isn't working. He managed to get a job just to lose it in TWO days! Dh thinks I should be more compassionate and understanding (blah, blah, blah), but I've had enough. I have my limits and told dh if I had to go through what I went through last year, I'd leave. Plain and simple.

Best of luck to you. Stand your ground and I agree with the others, if your dh HAS the money to pay rent for his kid somewhere, let him do it. We don't have that kind of money, so that wasn't an option for us. But, at least your marriage would survive, but if it's your dh's enabling you also can't stand, then that will effect your marriage anyway. Dh actuallly asked me if I lost respect for him last year and I said unequivically "YES". I had seen him do the tough love thing with his son before and last year wasn't doing it. It WAS effecting my feelings for him.

Keep us updated. You are by far not alone.

Valeria's picture

Back to add: Of course if this guy had mental issues and addiction issues he should get help. BUT he is an adult and you cannot force him. If he does not ask for and want the help you are wasting time, money and emotion. Studies show it takes an average of 10 times through re-hab for it to "take" and that is if they person really wanted help.

My step son was the same way, ended up in prison for 7 years at the age of 19, he has been on parole for 14 months now and still is not much better. But HE DOES NOT LIVE HERE. I would rather my (guilt ridden) husband help him out enough to keep him out of the house than to have to live with him. Just my opinion and it works for me.

I hope you find a solution that helps you get some peace.

Pilgrim Soul's picture

Have you tried hooking him up with social services? Does he have a treating psychiatrist who could help? He could do well in a group home, possibly, with supervision, he could be taking meds and enjoying quasi-independence.

Try NAMI, or your county or state mental health agencies. It might take some doing but it is better than constant aggravation.

hailtocasaer's picture

His son refuses help completely. He will not see a therapist. His father has insurance for him being he is still not 26 years old. He wants screamed at his father that he is willing to take a drug test to prove he wasn't on drugs (I bet money he won't take it and it was just something to say to get his father off his back)...I will try and push this a little more and see if I can get him to do it..Again, highly doubt it.
For now we will be paying $1300 a month for his in-town suites hotel (what a *** Shame). I know better but apparently my husband doesn't. Having 3 other adult children much more deserving of it...he chooses to give it to this son who I believe is using drugs.

I did check T-mobile to see their calls...and it's unbelievable the texts and calls that go back and forth between them. He even had the nerve to say that I was jealous. I guess I deserve it as I did start by saying---"you both act like your a couple by all the calls and texting that goes on"---and NO--there is nothing weird things going on with them...He is just a father that is caught up in his sons web of lies. Stupid/dumb for believing him and hoping to God that his son is not lie... The amount I mention is only for his hotel--have not mentioned his cell phone/his grocery bill and the cash my husband give him...although we have the money--I didn't grow up throwing money away (neither did my husband)..We both very fortunate to have done extremely well and I can't keep watching it go down the tube because my husband refuses to open his eyes...He'll leave me before he stops helping his son and that's enough for me to walk..I'll be okay..I spend more time today thinking about how I don't need to be mean as my husband is lost in his son...I can now only help me. I will slowly and very slowly move my feeling away. While I hit the gym, make new friends,keep myself and not spend all day thinking how long will it take for this manchild to convince my husband to INCREASE his money (and I'm sure he it has been)...I will slowly be ready for what is inevitable. I will hold hope that my husband get enough of his son...but he has been doing this since he was 8 years old...and as I mentioned...his son knows his dad is paying $1,300 a month for his place (why in the world would he ever leave his dad side???) He'll never amount to anything with the help of dad...That will be my husband legacy and he will never see it..He will go to his grave saying his son as mental illness with bi-polar..(who cares when your being robbed and all your stuff is in the pawn shop)...the only thing people including me----it's extremely hard for me to say this...but he will end up in jail and that's when the bills will be jacked up...my husband will spend money for attorneys and such to help his...How do I know?? he has already spent over 20,000 taking him out of jail before and all his records were expunged (who says money can't buy the court system). Anyway...I'm really just upset...honestly, I do know that the courts will only let so much slid and no matter how much you have--they won't take it anymore.

Valeria's picture

Just curious, but why back away slowly? Why drag it out if you have made the decision? Wouldn't it be better to just do it, move n and start a better life? The longer you wait, the more chance you have of talking yourself out of it. I don't see a reason to wait other than you hoping that things will miraculously change. Give yourself a short term deadline to get your business together and do it, you will have a better life to look forward to.

tired and stressed's picture

Wow, this is awful. Nothing you say to him will change his behavior. Although with all the gift cards out there, why can't your husband use gift cards if he wants to enable him? There is gas, grocery store, even entertainment, iTunes, amazon...that way he doesn't have cash for drugs.
I am glad you are seeing a therapist, I hope it helps. I know how men can tell the therapist what they want to hear, but they still get to hear from the therapist and hopefully some of the advise will sink in.
Regarding your house, I would get Video security cameras. I just saw some wireless ones at Costco that look really nice, they have night vision and outdoor ones too. I have Logitech security cameras. They are a little big compared to the ones at Costco, but you can still hide them and watch what happens on your phone or computer, same with the ones from Costco. I caught my SD stealing with one. The problem is that you can't tell your husband you are getting cameras and you should gather evidence and not share everything as you find it. You can also use it if you are gone and he brakes in, you can call the cops and share your evidence.
Good luck