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beyond hope's picture

I am a 45 year old man, married to a 46 year old woman. I have 3 kids. A 27 year old son and twin 17 year old daughters. My wife has an 18 year old son.
My son is on his own. My daughters live with BM most of the time especially lately (will go into that later)
Her son lives with her. Thats right ... we are separated...can you guess where this is going?
this is both of ours, second go round with marriage.
ok, lets start this...
My wife can be the most wonderful person ..when she wants to be..cant we all?
The first year of our marriage was the best relationship I have ever had. Of course there were minor issues(or so I thought), the main ones being my wifes insecurities going as far as to search my computer, cell phone, emails etc without my knowing and trying to find/ make up things to support them. Now comes the biggie. Wife idolizes her son. Cant do enough for him.
this whole thing started off with her moving in with me in my home. My/our bedroom was on the second floor along with my daughters room (which they shared). Her son who lives with her was 12 at the time. I moved my office that was in the 3rd bedroom to the dining room so he would have his own room which was downstairs. My son, who had a bad experience with his GF, moved back in with me shortly before my wife and her son. He was in the back Florida Room which backed up to SS room. My wife actually told me, we had to move SS to my daughters room and move them because she didnt want him downstairs by himself. His room was directly under ours. I said I was not moving my daughters room for that reason. She was afraid someone was going to break in and hurt/take him... we lived in a good neighborhood.
Next came the complaining my son was making so much noise that ss couldnt go to sleep. I bent over backwards to fix that even to the point to ask SS when my son was making too much noise to tell me so i could figure it out. My son was confused because he is very respectful of others. Anyway, SS finally tells me one day, after this has caused several arguments between me and wife, that my son is making too much noise. I got his mother and sat on his bed and asked them both "what Noise?"...mom nor SS could say anything because there was no noise.
This was solved when my wife decided we needed to move because "our" house just wasnt working for her and her son anymore. I relented because I wanted her to be happy and secure.
She found us a "new" home that we moved into which sorta caused my son to have to find another place to live. He didnt want to cause anymore "problems" for me.
This was just the first couple issues to set the tone.
Fast forward to now... SS is 18. He does not go to school some of the time(his senior year) he has no job, he does no extra curricular activities either with school or out of school. Mommy bought him a car and pays for his insurance and gas gets him the food he wants (even though he has expensive taste.) Wife spends thousands of dolars on birthday/christmas gifts for him. This is an ongoing theme.
SS has no respect for me or what I helped his mother provide for him. He never helped out around the house. I was told he wasnt my slave boy. I asked him to take out the trash and help cut the grass every summer while he wasnt in school. He took out the trash twice and helped cut the grass twice in 6 years. He has every known gaming system, laptop, computers, cell phones...anything he wants he gets. He takes 40 -45 minute showers leaves lights on all over the house refuses to eat what we prepare for dinner, so 2 dinners are made each night...not at the same time either...only on his timetable. He thinks he owns his mom and she continues to feed into that for him.
Ohh I forgot to tell you she didnt make the house payment for 2 years and then up and moved out one week while we were having a spat while I was staying with my mother and step father who I have a great relationship with and who calls me every week to see if im doing ok.
Ohh btw the house was in her name. She bought a 07 car in 07 not new but darn close while I drive a 12 year old truck with over 225k miles. Guess who shared in paying the bills...at least thinking they were being paid..thats right ...me. So i have helped support him and her and I have nothing to show for it except hurt and anger.
SS thinks he is going to college... not with his grades in his senior year. He is a smart kid but uses his powers for evil. He has been physically abusive towards me and his mother. I cant deal with this anymore. Wife continues to say he is Number 1 in her life and if I dont like it then I have to deal with it. Its not her problem. As much as I have feelings for my wife (our relationship while he isnt around is the best) I cannot see this type of behavior changing.
I feel I could have been a positive role model for SS but wasnt allowed. I have many years dealing with teens from being a scout master to coaching baseball and basketball. I even tried disengaging and they (wife + SS) loved that because SS felt he could do as he pleased with zero repercussions.
Like I said my son has owned his home for the past 2 years. My daughters are honor roll students in high school while they cheer for the varsity squad and the competition team along with dancing 2 nights a week and they both have jobs. I have taught them respect and responsibility. The SS has none of these. I dont want to support a slug on society with no drive to be better because he doesnt have to be. BF of SS is in picture and is also simular to me in my beliefs but SS doesnt go visit anymore becasue of trouble with SM on BF side. She sees through him too and BF wont take it in his home.
Guys wanting to be a SF beware!

LizzieA's picture

This sounds like dealbreakers to me. That kid will never move out as long as mommy is taking care of him. And she didn't pay the bills? Time to move on and let the chips fall where they should--on her head.

beyond hope's picture

Thanks for your reply. I hope your situation never gets to be like mine. My wife used to treat me like I was, if not THE most important then a close second. Now I feel as though I am not even on the list anymore. I feel she pulled the Dr Jekyl and Mr Hyde on me. She is very selfish now and of course the apple doesnt fall far from the tree because of his role model mom.
I have gone to my wife with concerns as to SS future and things he is about to do because i have seen them and lived through them but I get berated on how I could think of such bad things about SS. For instance she gave him a computer to put in his room to use for "homework". I explained unless she wanted him to look at porn that she was making a big mistake... i was called everything in the book because she had already had the conversation with him and he promised her he wouldnt do that... well guess who was right..within a month the computer was infected with every spyware/virus that could be contracted...looking at the history proved me right. instead of removing the computer she allowed him to keep it and made him promise not to do it again...once again i spoke up and said he wouldnt keep his promise... I was made to feel like dirt once again... and once again...who was right...me.. he did it again and messed up the computer so bad we had to wipe the hard drive and start over.
I wasnt trying to say he was a bad kid ...just i know the "traps" that boys go through and was trying to be proactive not reactive but... I was the idiot in the long run because here I am venting on a site to total strangers but at least you all know something of what im going through.
It is so many more examples of stuff that I went through but most of you would probably ask why I stayed as long as I have. the answer is I was hoping Dr Jekyl would come back. unfortunately Mr Hyde is always there too and I will never have that person back that I fell in love with.
It is true that skids come as a package with SO but make sure you see them for who they are before its too late. Im not sure I can trust anyone anymore because of being burnt so many times with her.
Anyway...good luck and keep fighting the fight... it is worth it so long as your SO is willing to work with you.

beyond hope's picture

Yes we do love our wives... and yes we have had moments of clarity too. Unfortunately the clarity disappears when SS bats his eyes at mommy and she completly caves into his crap.
example... he was supposed to be doing his homework one afternoon (getting him to finish his homework was a chore in itself) wife saw him texting on his phone and told him to get on his homework and stop texting... he mouths off at her and goes in his room. Wife decides to check on him per my insistance and low and behold...he was still texting. She allows him to have his door shut all of the time so noone knows what he is doing. She tells him again to stop texting as she is sitting back down in the office with me. He starts mouthing off again and she actually broke bad on him...and told him to give her the cell phone... well he decides giving it and throwing it are the same thing and bounces it off of her head and it landed on my keyboard across the room in front of me. She didnt say a word and gave him the phone back the next morning.
Another instance ... he was supposed to be home at a certain time and he wasnt and didnt call nor would answer her calls. She took his lisence and car keys until the next morning. What did all this prove? not a darn thing, except he is in control. I cant live in this Skids shadow anymore.

beyond hope's picture

Wow that is pretty intense... I dont know what to do. We tried counseling until she got tired of it. SS has even been to counceling and refuses to ever go back! My relationship the first year was awesome ...not perfect but damn near. one day SS told mommy he misses the one on one time they used to have. I told wife to go ahead and spend some more time with him if she wants because I feel parents should do that. I told her to go to a movie once in a while or go to play putt putt mini golf or just go have lunch with him or whatever... that was the beginning of the end. It was like a snowball effect. I was shoved more and more away while she overcompensated more and more to make up for feeling guilty I guess. Even though she admits it every now and then she continues to do this. I cant seem to make any head way. I am not sure I ever will. Sad

TheBrightSide's picture

I know its waaaay to late, but what my DH and I have done is split our finances and shared financial responsibilities. i.e.: separate bank accounts. The ONLY thing we hold jointly is the house. Every "shared" expense, we calculate and split the costs. We both work, we both make $$. Early in our marriage, he made more than I did. Now I make more. Still, we split everything 50/50. Any costs for SD11. He pays. If he buys her a computer. HE buys it. If she needs anything, he pays. If he can't afford it. Then too bad so sad for her. Meanwhile I have 6K in my chequing account alone.

Why this works? I don't resent it or the $$ he spends on her.

I still have more equity in the house, but that's the risk I took entering into the marriage.

If he wants to indulge SD11 by letting her stay up all night, or allowing her to do something I don't agree with, I might make a suggestion, but if he doesn't agree with it, he does it "his way". I disengage. His kid, his problem. I'll "help" him with her, but I'm not "responsible" for her.

After 6 years together...this works for me, and therefore it works for him too. And believe me...SD11 is daddy's girl.

If there is any advice I would give to someone starting out in a relationship with someone who has children, and they have children (or not) of their own is to keep finances separate. And if you are relying on someone to support you financially, you have to have the discussion up front. i.e.: if I'm going to support you financially, I MUST have input in how my money will be spent. If not, then the relationship won't work.

beyond hope's picture

Thats awesome that it works you you guys. We tried it but it didnt work for me... my wife made 10k more than me a year along with $500 child support from her x. Like I stated before, SS leaves lights on, takes 40-45 mininute showers, cooks seperate meals from us. Which drives up our bills.
He stayed with us 24/7 rarely going to BD home. We each were putting the same amount in the bill account each week but I was walking around with pocket change each week while she had much more money to play with. SS is totally rude and disrespectful to me along with no rules or chores for him, made me very frustrated. Why should I pay half the bills when 3 people are in the home using the same utilities (or more in SS case). I proposed splitting the bills more like 60-40 so I could have some more money to do with as I pleased(like have lunch money) and she could have more responsibility on paying for her child and see that not having alot of extra money meant that she would have to say NO occationally. Well that blew up in my face because she called me selfish and threatened to leave. I shoulda let her :(. Then I found out she wasnt paying the mortgage... wth was the money going? I followed the funnel to my SS and now I am where I am. I still have feelings for my wife but she needs help for me to even consider going back this time.(been apart for like 6 times in 6 years this time has been 7 months). I think she is fine being the way she is.. I have had to come to terms that she is the selfish one and I was just a paycheck. I cant wait to see how things go when CS stops in June. I bet she will have a change of heart towards me.

beyond hope's picture

The saga continues... I can only shake my head. Wife calls and says how much she wishes we could figure out our mess. Almost in the same breath she tells me her and SS are going on a vacation just the 2 of them. Off the cuff, I ask what about me? She replies "Ohh I was going to ask you but I want SS to have a good time and not stay cooped up in his hotel room because he cant stand you." In other words I ask "You are rewarding him for such a grand job he has been doing by going to school every day and doing his home/schoolwork and the job he has gotten and all the help he has given you to help with your appartment...?"( he has done none of this) Maybe not the best thing to say, but I also asked her how that would make her feel had I said those things to her and isnt it his problem staying in his room instead of trying to act like the adult he now professes to be?
I am totally frustrated. How can she go from one minute "trying to make it work" to the next "I am excluding you from a vacation and dont want you around because of my son (remember he is 18)".
Not once did she say maybe we could get away for a few days to work on our marriage... no, she is still feeding her spoiled, disrespectful, lazy child the thoughts that he can do what he wants and still get rewarded... sigh.

LizzieA's picture

Please! This woman doesn't deserve you! You're going to be homeless soon anyway (no house payments being made?!) so move on! You sound like a decent smart guy--you won't have any trouble finding someone else without the baggage.