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s-k's picture

Hello All-

I don't know if this is a vent or question, but here it goes...

My husband and I have been married for a year (have known each other for 2) and I have yet to meet his 4 year old daughter. Currently, it is in the court order that I am not allowed to meet her (mother's suggestion, of course). I have not met the mother either as she is just plain mad and bitter than I married her ex (there was no cheating going on, he left the house before we met as they just plain do not get along). We are great together and I am a nice, responsible person who LOVES kids. Our first year of marriage has been in and our of courts and has revolved around this whole situation...I am so insecure about all of it. When the 3 of them are together I get really insecure. We don't have any children together yet so it sort of stings to see them all together as a family even though i know she has done so many hurtful things to him and us. We have another hearing coming up and I am not feeling very good about it since everything has moved so slow so far...
The mother won't even allow my husband to mention my name around their daughter and she has no idea we are even married. I am worried that once she finds out it's going to be impossible for her to accept me and I also feel like her mother is going to say horrible things about me. Like I said before, I am a nice person...I do nice things for people and I never try to hurt people on purpose. I feel like her mother might think I am going to swoop in and become a mom all of a sudden or something! Which, for the record, I would never do...I don't even want to be called a step mom. I don't even like the term. I want my own kids...my own family. I want to be able to get along with everyone!

Has anyone had this experience? I am miserable, sad and depressed. My husband doesn't understand...he is thrilled he is getting to see his daughter again (I am too) and I don't want to ruin that for him. I just don't know how to handle it anymore.

Any advice?

Thanks in advance.

Constantly_guilty's picture

can your husband fight that court order? I've never heard of the court's allowing one parent to control the other parent's spousal access to the child, when there is no grounds for concern. I'm assuming you're not on probation or a registered offender.

exhausted step mom's picture

Hi there s-k...I am new here as well and have found this to not only be a place to vent my frustrations but find suggestions as well. I am really sorry for your situation and the pain I am sure it has caused. I don't understand though, why was it ever court ordered for you not to see you SD? That does seem really unfair to the child and your DH. I don't understand BM's that feel so insecure with someone being there childs SM. I have a daughter that if my ex would have found someone that accepted her and nurtured her than I would be happy. Just one more person to love my child. But back to your issue....I think you have no choice but to wait and let the courts handle it and they will set the BM straight. If she has no reason for you not to be allowed around her child then the courts will I'm sure see this. In the mean time try to be happy for your DH that he is able to see his child again. That had to be pure he-- on him and the child. Hang in there!

stepmom008's picture

Oh my, I wish I did have advice for you but I don't. What a terrible situation. Welcome!

"There are two things over which you have complete dominion, authority, and control over - your mind and your mouth".

folkmom's picture

i just do not know of any court that would support this. are you sure the custody order says he cannot mention a new wife? it is...basically...unconsitutional.

why in the world does he put up with this?

Everyones Interest's picture

This doesn`t sound right. Have you seen the court order? It seems unlikely that a judge would put in place an order dictating that the child cannot be around someone that poses no danger to him/her. It makes absolutely no sense.

It would be more understandable if this 'order' is in fact a mediation agreement. Something that your husband agreed to during mediation and that document was filed with the courts. If that's the case, then it's just a simple agreement between the parents and something that can be changed (by challenging the agreement in court or going back to mediation).

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Greenfig's picture

Yeah, the BM in our life tried controlling how much contact I have with the skid and how much one-one-one time skid had with bf, without me. Basically she was trying to get me to leave from my own house so the skid and bf could have more time together without my presence. I told her she can eat my shit.

Bf's lawyer said that she cannot have a say in this unless she could demonstrate that I was endangering the skid or was abusing her.

I think the BM in your life is total bs. She has no legal ground, unless DH agrees to it just to keep the peace.

s-k's picture

She doesn't know me at all. I have posed no threat to her ever. She throws fits in court every time we are there and my feeling is that the judge basically wants to avoid her meltdowns in the courtroom. The order is not directly against me, it says that the child is not to be introduced to me. Our lawyer said that my husband is allowed to tell his daughter about me, but at the same time it has been such a traumatic 2 years for him, he is afraid to do anything to make his ex mad...he mentioned my name in front of the child the other day and got a look. We are looking into mediation also because we do not want to go to trial which will be next if this isn't solved by the next hearing which I highly doubt it will be.
I am not allowed to be in my own house when the child is there. I don't mind...it's the fact that I am missing out on such an important part of my husband life. It's hurtful. Especially when there are so many fathers and Step families who just give up.
A lot of stuff definitely happened in the pas between my husband and his ex but it's in the past. We just want to move on. I feel like it's going to be harder for everyone, especially the child the longer it takes to get resolved. It's a sad situation.
Thanks for your ears!

folkmom's picture

you need a better lawyer.

what state are you in?

who cares if she cried puddles. you are married to him. you should not get kicke out of your house. you are being denied your rights...

s-k's picture

MA

folkmom's picture

ok. that makes NO sense. at all. seriously. I am in MA. That is just not the law here.

Have you actually SEEN this custody order?

s-k's picture

yes i have seen it. it's not an order specifically against me...i'm just sort of thrown in there.
the order basically states the hours of visitation, pick up and drop of location and that i am not to be introduced at this time. i have seen everything, been at all meetings with lawyers, at all court meetings (and in the actual court room)have been a part of all discussions and I am the one in contact with our lawyer as I am the one who remembers to as questions and knows the questions to ask etc...
honestly, i don't want to make it out to be about me...it's not...it's about my husband getting to see his daughter and his daughter getting to see her father. that's the most important thing here. i am just frustrated with the situation and how slow the system is moving. it doesn't seem fair.

folkmom's picture

ok but think about this from his daughter's viewpoint here. do you actually think this helps her in the long run...she is going to find out one day and think "woah, my dad has been married all this time and i a) did not know he was married and b) have never met his wife."

that is the stuff of legendary future therapy sessions for this girl!

"at this time" is what the order says? where you married at that time?

i am asking these questions because i am a lawyer in ma and i can see loopholes:)

my guess is it was thrown in there before you were married. in MA the standard for modification is a substantial change in circumstances. you and him gettign married...that is a substantial change in circumstances. that means that you went from GF to stepmom...and while there is not much legal attachment to stepmom, there are some legal ramifications in your favor.

i would file for a modification of the order on that point based ont he change in circumstances. my argument would be that "it is in the best interest of the child" (MA standard of law for family court) that this child not be lied to about her father being remarried. the child has a right to know her father as he is...not as her mom wants her to. it is not healthy and has potential future pyschological implications for the child.

my guess is you win in 5 mins.

TheOtherMom's picture

I just did some research and unless you are a child abuser, molester or have put children in danger, this is not legal.

http://www.lawlib.state.ma.us/subject/about/custody.html

Look it up.

I am a constitutionalist through and through and this is a violation of your First Amendment right. Sorry, but while DH is happy to see her, this poses serious damage to your new marriage.

Constantly_guilty's picture

I'd like to hear more about what happened in the past. It's my experience that there have to be some pretty serious allegations or indiscretions for a judge to consider this. Is there more to this story?

4stepnoneofmyown's picture

Why is it that the men never seem to be allowed to move on with their lives and have to live in fear of losing the rights that they have with their children. I don't understand how the courts can rule that you can not be introduced to the child if you are not a threat. He needs to fight harder for this. As far as the bad mouthing, if there are court orders out there to stop you from being introduced, then there has to be court orders to stop "bad mouthing" by the other parents. If he is not legally "unfit", how could they stop him from seeing his child(due to the fact that she would keep her from him becasue of you). This is what I don't understand about this government, here you have a man who wants to be in his childs life yet because some bitch is insecure about other women, they would stop him from seeing his child. What is wrong with this picture?

s-k's picture

You got me! I don't know if she bad mouthing or not...I am making assumptions from the way things have gone so far. He is not unfit. We live in a nice place, we both have steady jobs, nice families, etc. When they were together they didn't work and he wasn't an angel but now he is great. He's grown up and has learned from his mistakes.
I don't know what is wrong with the legal system. I dont know what else we can do...she is draining all our funds on out lawyer (who isn't help much anyway) when she gets all her lawyers for free).

PoisonApples's picture

s-k, your husband needs to grow a pair.

First, you need to get a look at that court order. My bf's ex tried to impose something similar with me and the judged laughed at her, told her it was ludicrous. I wonder if you've been told the truth? Maybe he's just telling you that when in reality he just doesn't want to piss her off?

Why are they spending time together? Other than a couple of minutes at hand off, there is no reason for them to be together. Why doesn't she know he's married?

I'm sorry but I think your dh is feeding you a line of bullshit. I think he's still trying to keep the ex happy and her happiness is more important to him than yours is.

I wouldn't stand for that kind of treatment and neither should you.

It sounds like you should forget mediation since your dh seems pussywhipped. He'll cave in to any ridiculous demand. Take it to court and get a reasonable judgement instead of the nonsense you've got now.

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Part-time Step's picture

Hang in there s-k! Be patient and do all you can to nurture your marriage. I realize this issue could easily drive a wedge and that may be what the BM is trying to do. Don't let her win and don't fuel the fire. (Doesn't sound like you're the type to, but it takes suprisingly little to spark an erruption!!)
As for you feeling left out when the fam is together...I get that, but in time that won't sting so much. I still get a little bit of that when I know my hubby has spoken to his ex w/o me around, but I'm secure in my marriage and I know that he doesn't want to be around her or speak to her any more than he has to. Unfortunately, since your step daughter is very young, the BM will inevitably be a part of your lives for a while.
Be patient and pray for the best outcome possible:)

s-k's picture

Part-Time Step:

Thank you so much for this response.
I am secure in my marriage, but still new to the situation at the same time so it is hard. You're right, I need to just keep calm (even though the smallest thing seems to spark a major "mean me" haha). It's more frustration. My husband doesn't keep anything from me...I am there, in court and at all meetings with lawyers. In fact, I am in the one who has all contact with our lawyer because I remember to ask all the questions, etc. I see all the courts orders as I keep the household papers in a file system so as for the previous comment...that's not the case.
I know that my husband doesn't want to be around her or speak to her if he doesnt have to, but I also know that he wants to be able to speak to her and have adult conversation about the child in order to discuss the child's future. It's not him I'm worried about...it's the BM. She it's manipulative and kept the daughter from him for more than 6 months so now he is afraid to lose her again if you know what I mean.

Part Time Step...how long have you been going through this if you dont mind me asking?

Thanks again for your kind and reassuring words...your post definitely helped get my mind back where it should be this morning.

s-k's picture

Rhyleighblue-

I have not yet finished the article, but WOW. I am so sorry for you and your husband. That is really torturous and no one, especially the children...should have to go through that. I am going to try and finish reading it today. I hope it get's better! I think it's a really good thing that everything was logged. I have been doing the same thing.

Thank you for sharing your story. When I am finished reading the article, I will probably write more Smile

lynns_girl's picture

I can tell you from experience that a court can and will do that, my SK's Bm took my DH to court and that was one of her request and she got it until the next court date, where she has to prove just cause, which she couldn't do, so the judge threw it out and called the matter closed where she could not bring it back to court again. So even though they can do it most judges are smart enough to see through the vindictive nature of the BM's, so have hope.

s-k's picture

thank you! i will keep having faith that things will work out for the best.