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AD1002's picture

Looking for some help and advice

Quick facts About us:
4/5 years about now together.
-I have my bio son now 7 full custody no time spent away
-My husbands bio son now 10 we have 5 days a week
- i was told to refer to step and bio son as both mine “my boys, my kids, etc” and I listened and have as to not draw a line in our household.
- my step sons mom works out of town and my husband has a job that requires he is gone for long periods of time. Leaving me solely in charge with little to no contact with both.

Our major problem lately is discipline

- I am the one that has to inforce the rules. I always ask both bio parents first. They tell me what they want done and I do it. I voice that it is a collective decision and what not but I am the bad one in the end.
It sucks and it’s definitely hurt the relationship I had built with my stepson.
- I read over and over again that thE step parent shouldn’t be the disciplinarian but I have been forced into the position I feel
- I follow what bio parents request and then I end up being the bad guy when neither one follows through with it when they get home.

- as much as I want to just say defer to bio parents what do I do when at times it’s just me for a few weeks to month and there is another child in the house hold?

Comments

Harry's picture

You should NOT be taking of SS when your SO is not at home. If he is working away from home for long periods of time then BM should have SS. You are not a babysitter. If BM is working out of town then BM and SO should make other arrangements for child care. NOT you
You SO would like you to be a babysitter. But tell him your are not.
These two made a baby and they get jobs where they can’t take care of SS. One or both has to get jobs where they are home. But they rather turn over they jobs to you.
The problem you are having is because of what you are doing, if you continue to bo what you are doing you are going to continue to have this problum

Livingoutloud's picture

I understand few days or few hours but I’d not babysit for weeks or months! When DH is out of town kid goes to his mom
And if she is out of town then they need to make different arrangements. Or find different jobs. I’d stop this nonsense

TexasPickles's picture

What a sweet deal for your husband, his ex and stepson. Not so much for you. And not so much for your son, I bet.

If you don't want to be a servant, stop acting like one. I expect that they (DH and his ex) will be pissed off and try to pressure you into keeping things as they are, because it works great for them.

You need to stand up for yourself.

lieutenant_dad's picture

You have two options:

First is what everyone else said. Stop doing this.

Second is discipline as you see fit since you are supposed to be treating the boys equally. If they are with you, enforce your rules and discipline. If one of the parents is around, defer to them.

Parents don't get a say in consequences at school,day care, or with another adult. If they don't agree with the consequences, they can place their child elsewhere. The same goes for you.

Also, the kid should be old enough now to understand that different people and places have different expectations. You can enforce rules one way when it's just you, and your DH and BM can do it another when they are home. Kid will learn quickly that the expectations are different.

I personally couldn't handle this set-up, but if you can, those are your only options outside continuing with the status quo or leaving your marriage.

FrenchPeas's picture

You need to quit being their servant/door mat. Good Lord. This was attempted with me. I fought it tooth and nail. I wasn’t their slave. I took my kids and left. Must be nice to ditch your kids on a third party and do what you want. I bought my own house and filed for divorce. Bye losers!

Livingoutloud's picture

Parents of young children can’t have a job that requires going out of town a lot. Now one parent might, but not both.

momjeans's picture

This is one of the worst step situations I have read in awhile.

You’re “told”?

Seriously!?

I see you as a live-in nanny, bed warmer, with no say in the matter, because it will disrupt the ebb and flow of your DH’s and BM’s lives as the bio parents. Wow. Just wow. This is incredibly sad.

AD1002's picture

Thank you all. I put my foot down the other day and again last night. Needless to say it created waves.. It is true I do take on the childcare and pay for it all as well. Which all of you parents know is not cheap. But if I want this marriage and family to work I need to come up with something. I don’t feel saying here’s your kid you figure it out is the best solution for making things work. But i fear intime this is the path that it will take. I’m sure many of you will disagree with me and I completely understand. Thank you for your input it is nice to feel not alone.

ctnmom's picture

"Created waves"? Is this the 1950's? He moved you in to be his full time babysitter. Either start charging him and the child's mom for daycare, or move out.

ProbablyAlreadyInsane's picture

Your home. Your rules. I get not feeling like you can just ditch the kid... But you aren’t a daycare, you aren’t being paid, in fact I’d imagine you’re losing money... If you’re expected to treat him as your own, well then neither parent is around and YOU get to make the decisions on rules and discipline. Because doing exactly how they say is ridiculous when you’re the one raising!

momjeans's picture

But these two people are saying to you ‘here’s our kid.’

The difference being, their way comes with rules. Your way would be asking them to figure it out.

I feel sad for you. This would be one of the absolute worst step situations to find oneself in.

AD1002's picture

It’s rough. I can’t lie. I am a stricter parent then both as well which doesn’t make this any easier. But I am also the parent that takes kids on all types of adventures and trips and buys all the expensive toys(dirt bikes, etc). I did this with just my bio son before entering into this and have not wanted to change if. My fault in that.

beebeel's picture

Have you asked your husband to look for a job that requires less travel so at least ONE of these "parents" is parenting?

AD1002's picture

I don’t feel I should. He’s a fireman and this is his career. I actually changed my job to care for both... pretty sure I am sounding quite ridiculous to you all about now.

TwoOfUs's picture

Not ridiculous. Just mistreated and taken for granted.

The thing is...this arrangement isn't sustainable. You're already resenting it...you're going to end up resenting it more and disliking your skid. Your DH needs to understand what this is doing to his marriage...because I guarantee the marriage is over if something doesn't change. It's just a matter of time. Talking to him isn't wrong or you being selfish...it's prioritizing your marriage and attempting to keep it healthy.

beebeel's picture

My DH was military, but that doesn't work when you divorce and have children. Then he worked on the road, but that doesn't work when you're divorced and have children. Now he works from home in software development.

Lots and lots and lots of people change careers because of huge life events (like divorcing or having children). How is it fair that you have, but neither of the "parents" feel the need to make changes?

Disneyfan's picture

It does sound a bit ridiculous only because you are making excuses for a man who is taking advantage of you.

You need to give both parents a solid time frame to come up with a new plan. If refusing to be used results in issues in your marriage, then the guy aint worth hanging onto.

Livingoutloud's picture

Why does he have to travel for weeks and months if he is a firefighter? I know plenty of firefighters who work full time for their local fire stations. They never travel anywhere but in their neighbourhood. He is making choices to have the kind of job that takes him away from home. It sounds that he might enjoy the kind of life style because you are accommodating it.

AD1002's picture

Strike teams, training(he’s an instructor), covering shifts as well as volunteering for our home town. A firefighters schedule is on a rotation so sometimes it takes a few weeks to get back to being home when we have his son.

twoviewpoints's picture

"I am the one that has to inforce the rules. I always ask both bio parents first. They tell me what they want done and I do it. I voice that it is a collective decision and what not but I am the bad one in the end.
It sucks and it’s definitely hurt the relationship I had built with my stepson."

If you are the 'parent' who is left for days/weeks with the child, it is pretty natural to believe you are the one doing any discipline and enforcing household rules. But , just as with your own bio son, it should be your rules and your consequences .... BM and Dad handed this role to you when they both decided to go about their job careers.

With the exception of age difference and consequence being age appropriate both these children living in your home and left to parent by you should be dealt with in the same manner. Yep, just like as if you were the mommy to both and your spouse/other parent was missing in action.

The boys should have the same expectations, rules, discipline, chores, food, snuggles and boo-boo clean-ups as the other child. The bio parents loss their 'this is how we want you to do things with our child' when they dumped the kiddo on you and went about their merry little way. They don't get to be phone it in parents.

That's wanting their cake and eating it too. It's above and beyond what should be expected and asked of you. BM can parent however she wants on her two days a week in her home. Dad needs to allow you to parent in your manner and style (same as you do for your own child) and accept he has left this responsibility to you and for you to decide.

It's that, or both parents change employment and the time they spend away from child and do the parenting themselves. Your SS is lucky to have a SM who cares enough to be the one there for him.

Maxwell09's picture

This is what I would do: TELL DH that he and BM need to split costs for before and after care during the school year as well as summer camp costs during the summer. When Skid gets up you can either bring him to before-care or bring him to school (whichever requires less interaction time) then he goes to school and to after-school care. Usually after-school care closes around 6pm so pick skid up around 5:30. Get him home, y’all have dinner, bath & bed. Rinse and repeat. Whatever downtime he has left from 6-9 (bedtime) should be filled with homework (but it’s not your responseibility to make him do) and whatever electronics he plays but let him know the WiFi only comes on larger all children have 1. Completed their homework, 2. Picked up their dinner dishes and lastly 3. Are ready for bed. Then they can vegitate. At their age and generation, all you need is to control their WiFi access. If he gives you problems then he doesn’t give access until his dad gets home and the three of y’all can have a discussion about respect in your house.

Livingoutloud's picture

So you quit your career so you can accommodate DH and his ex so they don’t have to parent THEIR child? So their careers are more meaningful to you than your own? That doesn’t make any sense. You need to get your sense of self worth and self respect back.

momjeans's picture

My friend’s DH is a wild land firefighter. He is gone for weeks at a time. Perhaps that is what OP’s DH does. I see she’s in California, and that’s where my friend lives, too. It’s a common, well paying firefighter job out west.

Still, no excuse. He and BM are benefiting from a very sweet deal, in having you around.

Livingoutloud's picture

I understand. But that’s a choice. My DH is in a medical field. He could choose to travel or relocate or work in a local hospital.

This man and his ex only travel for work because someone is “told” to do parenting for them. Must be nice.

momjeans's picture

Oh, I’m 110% in agreement with this, and your prior comments, Livingoutloud.

I was just responding to the questioning why a firefighter is gone for weeks at a time. Heck, even city firefighters pull odd schedules. Usually 4 days on, 3 days off.

AD1002's picture

That is a true schedule in many cases. Strike teams which we have had many this year are 21 days at a time. Short staffing, mandatory overtime and being a trainer as well as a volunteer for where we live can take up quite a lot of time. Yes he doesn’t have to be a volunteer for our town. And I had a hissy fit one time when he answered a call. However if he didn’t go that man would have died quick reality check for me. . I willingly have taken on this but am looking for advice on how to handle this, if anyone ever has.

AD1002's picture

That’s a good question. Thank you. I was curious if this was a “normal” situation with having my stepson on my own so frequent without either bio parents present and how if anyone has dealt with it does it in a calm and sane manner

Valkyrie's picture

Everything everyone above said. Also, I have a real issue with bio-parents who take advantage and then have the nerve to complain. If they don't like the way you discipline THEIR son then they can make other arrangements. They should be nothing but thankful and supportive for everything you do. They need to back up your decisions and treat you with the respect you deserve. Best to you.

SMto2's picture

You say you're looking for help and advice. My advice is to tell these parents they are going to need to make other arrangements to raise their son! My DH and I have to be out of town for overnights here and there. We are lawyers. We share staff, and they coordinate our schedule so that one of us is always in town to take our youngest to school, pick him up after school and care for him for the night. We have no family in the area to do that for us. Your DH and his ex need to act as though you are not in the picture. As your SS10 gets more into the teenager years and naturally begins to seek independence and test boundaries, I see this discipline issue becoming a MUCH bigger problem.

still learning's picture

OP, what you're doing is fine as long as it's you're choice and you are getting fairly compensated. Lots of women stay home and do childcare so the husband can work. If this arrangement is going to continue then treat it like a home daycare. You're the one in charge, your wages, your hours and your rules. If the parents don't like it then they are free to find other arrangements for ss10.

Many moons ago I did home care for my two toddlers and three others. Once the the daycare kids were in the door they followed my rules and if there were non life threatening issues their parents were informed at pickup.

You're at the stage in life where the kids are in school and you could be free to follow your hobbies and career aspirations. Instead you're babysitting so they can follow theirs. It's all good as long as they are both paying you well. You have the right to be compensated for your work. You're not a charity.

FrenchPeas's picture

I do think it is odd that you won’t ask this child’s bio parents to change their career but you feel that it’s acceptable to change your career to care for THEIR child.

That’s where you lost me. Why don’t you believe it’s their duty to care for their child like it’s your duty to care for your child.

ndc's picture

What are you getting out of this? Do you work outside of the home, or are you a SAHM? Is this arrangement allowing you to be a SAHM to your own child when you wouldn't otherwise be able to do that? If so, then it might make sense to continue with the current arrangement, EXCEPT with rules and boundaries that you are comfortable with (i.e., YOU get to make the decisions on discipline, and the parents agree to back you up). If not, or if the current arrangement isn't working for you, maybe it's time to bring in some additional help, so that you're not providing ALL the childcare. Being almost entirely responsible for a child who is not yours is really difficult. My fear is that you will reach a breaking point and everything will go to hell in a handbasket, whereas if you reach out and demand changes now, you might be able to improve the situation before you reach that point. Without changes, I don't think there's any doubt you will reach that point of no return.

AD1002's picture

That is my fear as well. I have definitely gotten close I think to my breaking point. I don’t want that. I signed up for being a step parent he didn’t sign up for being a stepson so I am trying to figure this out.

Focused_onourlife's picture

"I signed up for being a step parent he didn’t sign up for being a stepson so I am trying to figure this out". Sighing up to be a step parent does not mean raise the SK it mean to accept your spouse has a responsibility to his/her child and you are kind and respectful to his/her child. This child is acting out his feelings of feeling abandoned (and seeing your BS have a loving and emotionally available Mom can cause him to feel envious towards your BS eventually) by his bio parents and that is not your fault or burden to carry. Save yourself the heartache, resentment and insanity by removing yourself as 'primary' caregiver to your SS.

Are you afraid of telling your DH you don't want to resume HIS responsibility? Do you think he will end the marriage, if so?

AD1002's picture

I don’t think he will resent me or destroy our marriage if I tell him anything. I have never dealt with step parenting, nor has my family as far back as I can remember and experience. I guess I am just trying to figure out what are the common ways people deal with this. I understand my situation is different with me having so much one on one time and basically acting as a parent, homework, discipline, sports, appointments,camps etc. I am very strict and am told I should loosen up more especially with ss. But the way he challenges just me it seams is wearing me very thin and I have found myself not being so fun anymore. I am bummed that I am worn thin.

Focused_onourlife's picture

That because his bio parents are the 'fun' parents and you are the 'meany'. One of the basic rules to SP'ing is to let the bio parents do the disciplining and you support your DH. It seems that the bio parents are overcompensating him for not being there, which makes it worse for you. From a first time SM to another, be there to support your DH only and let him parent his kid. Otherwise, you will start to resent the situation, your SS and DH. You didn't sign up for this. 10 years from now, your SS or DH will not appreciate shit you did and your SS will more then likely dispise you.

AD1002's picture

I guess I am a great scapegoat to be the enforcer and not the fun parent. Great win for them Sad

secret's picture

If they want you to treat them like your own, that INCLUDES making parental decisions when you're the one parenting.

It's very clear between dh and I that if i'm to treat ss as my own, it means I'm going to parent, whether it's very little or entire days when dh has to work, then I had BETTER be treated as if I'm his mother.

To be clear - that means that if I issue a punishment, dh better have my back on it. Mdisciplining a child for behavioral issues is NOT picking on the child.

What seems to have worked for us, is that when I DO have to "parent", I tell dh what happened, what the consequence was, the conversation I had with ss, and my reasoning behind it.

Despite my kids being teens and occasionally having attitude, for the most part they're recognized by dh as being great kids, and he wants ss to turn out just as good.. thus he trusts my judgement and knows I was/am just as harsh on my own as I am on ss.

Between the 2 of us, I'm stricter..and funnily enough, much to dhs chagrin, I'm also generally the one ss seeks out first. Dh saw first hand that fun parent doesn't equal preferred parent. Not that I'm preferred, but to dh, sometimes it seems that way.

Ask your dh whether he wants you to be a stepmom, or a nanny...and then remind them that nannies both get paid for their time AND have authority over the kid's while stepmoms do it for free.... and that he can choose to either have you parent them while they're in your care, WITH his support, or he can pay someone else to.