How to tell DH "no effing way in hades" in a NICE way?
My family has a summer house in another state. DH and I usually go twice a year (Spring and Fall). This year, we won't be going until Summer because:
1) DH has to work another shift for someone who will be out on surgery,
2) PrincASS graduates from HS (end of CS!!), and,
3) PrincASS is joining the Army at the end of May.
Yesterday, DH tells me that BioHo thinks we should take PigPen with us on vacation. WHAT.THE.F*CK.
Firstly, I 853% RESENT that 'Ho so much as suggesting a brand of potato chips to try, much less taking her kid on OUR vacation.
Secondly, DH works VERY hard and he NEEDS vacation time. Meaning, he needs that week to rest, recuperate, and recharge. NOT spend the entire time entertaining PigPen (who will surely be bored as we have NO television or internet and no activities as we are in the middle of nowhere) and running somewhere every single day instead of getting his much-needed rest.
Thirdly, I avoid the skids whenever possible. Why the HELL would I want to spend a week around a nasty 14yo??
Finally, I said I believe that PrincASS would be upset we took PigPen and not PA, to which DH said when PA is on leave, we can take him there with us.
I told DH I would have to think about it. Quite honestly, I don't want so much as a skid hair tainting my lovely family getaway, much less spend 9 DAYS with them in my SANCTUARY.
How can I tell DH 'no effing way in hades', but make it sound nice???
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Tell him you were hoping to
Tell him you were hoping to have a little honeymoon with him and enjoy adult time together as it has been too long since the two of you have had significant alone time. Maybe come up with some adult only activities that you two could get up to. Then maybe suggest he can take the kid away for a bonding weekend (more time for you away from pigpen) as an alternative if he hesitates.
DH takes the skids on bonding
DH takes the skids on bonding weekends 3-4 weekends every summer. And since the skids are EOWe, we have 11-12 days of just us adult time.
Describe the special
Describe the special importance of this holiday to you with him. "My love, I see this annual trip as our time together getting away from the world and ------". Make it about you as a couple and your sanctuary leaving out all mention of children.
I'll try, but I think DH is
I'll try, but I think DH is seeing this as the skids are older and there will never be this kind of 'opportunity' again. :sick:
If he needs one on one time
If he needs one on one time with his kids then encourage it and don't go with him/them.
My SO takes his kids on vacation every summer and while they are gone to the beach, lake, etc. I take the whole week off and have a blast! I get the whole house to myself, eat a gallon of ice cream, leave dishes in the sink over night, have friends over for drinks, eat mac and cheese out of the pan, run around in my under ware, I live the life while they are gone.
OT but I found myself sad the other day when I realized once the kids age out that SO won't be out of town so much. I really enjoy my alone time.
Stepped, I NEVER go on those
Stepped, I NEVER go on those weekends to the friend's farm. In fact, I spend the majority of my time during skid weekends ANYWHERE else than around the skids. The last time I spent more than an hour around them was on Christmas day.
My DH works the night shift, so every other weekend, I have the house to myself Fri/Sat/Sun night.
Nothing like hot monkey sex,
Nothing like hot monkey sex, huh?
BTW, when did 'hot monkey sex' get to be a saying? LOL
Bonobos monkeys are known to
Bonobos monkeys are known to be rather "promiscuous," so perhaps ...
Indigo, why do you know this
Indigo, why do you know this about those monkeys? LOL
I know because I went to a
I know because I went to a Bonobos reserve in DRC. And saw them doing it like they do it on the Discovery Channel.
Tell him you were planning to
Tell him you were planning to bring the whip and have f*ckfest 2017. That should do it.
Um, robin, you still have my
Um, robin, you still have my whip... Besides, I'm sub to my hub.
you can borrow one of ours if
you can borrow one of ours if you need it - also sub to my hub
We have paddles...LOL
We have paddles...LOL
lol - us too BA HA HA HA
lol - us too BA HA HA HA HA!!!
I think you are the Yooper version of me
Umm, bringing the whip
Umm, bringing the whip doesn't mean you do the whipping. Sorry , was not implying that. WOB had the whip the last I knew about it.
Use your womanly ways to ensure it's just you and DH. Tell him all the naughty things you hope he's going to do to you that week.
"No." Then take off your
"No."
Then take off your clothes.
lmfao!!!!
lmfao!!!!
There's no other way to put
There's no other way to put this except to say it straight out... When DH and I are home alone, I'm ALWAYS naked. Except to wear an apron while I cook. :O
No wonder it takes you so
No wonder it takes you so long to open the door!
Although next time, I'll bring my own cushions to sit on...
Moe, if you called first, I'd
Moe, if you called first, I'd be dressed before you arrived!
My question is why does Bioho
My question is why does Bioho know when you are going on vacation?!
Stepped In, 'Ho knows because
Stepped In, 'Ho knows because we're gone 2 weekends in a row, so she has the skids. DH doesn't tell 'Ho; the skids do.
Is your DH that dense that he
Is your DH that dense that he doesn't himself realize that pigpen would be bored AF and be annoying AF because of this??? Why would you take a 14 year old on "vacation" to a place where there is no TV, no internet, no activities??? Why would a 14 year old even WANT to go??
Daizy, he thinks that PigPen
Daizy, he thinks that PigPen will be happy traipsing around the tulies and communing with nature. While this is good for 2-3 days, I believe PP will be bored for any time longer than that.
Also, PP would want to go because he hates living at home and would rather be with DH.
Babybugged, we have never
Babybugged, we have never taken a vacation with the skids. We were going to take the boys with us a few years ago, but 'Ho conveniently effed that up by scheduling an impromptu vacation smack dab in the middle of when we were supposed to be gone.
Aside from a few weekends every year at a friend's farm, DH hasn't been on a vacation with the skids since he was married to 'Ho (12 years ago).
Oh, please. BioHo does NOT
Oh, please. BioHo does NOT have family cottage. In fact, BioHo won't be able to go on any more fancy vacations once CS ends. }:)
I'm still miffed as to why
I'm still miffed as to why your DH didn't shut Bioho shit down immediately. Like why is he even "presenting" this idea to you???
It should have been more like "OMG, this is soooo funny! Bioho suggested that we take pigpen on vacation with us and I told her she was fucking nuts and that would NOT be happening! Can you believe the nerve of that stupid skank??"
Even though 'Ho suggested it,
Even though 'Ho suggested it, I know it is something DH would LIKE to do. Quite honestly, I have excelled at hiding how much I loathe being around the skids.
I won't go on vacation with
I won't go on vacation with the skids. I have gone on vacation with Echo when I need to get away.
DH won't vacation without me, ergo no vacations for the skids. With DH. They go on vacation with DH's parents and with Medusa's dad and SM.
Never with me. Nope. That's not a vacation
I will paint myself purple
I will paint myself purple and run naked downtown before I go on vacation with that filthy boy. Blech. Besides, DH doesn't have a key to the house. I do.
"BioHo thinks we should take
"BioHo thinks we should take PigPen with us on vacation."
"that's nice, dear. oh! i heard it's supposed to rain tomorrow, havent we had enough of that lately?"
or, maybe just tell him outright "no effing way in hades! 1, that would not be a relaxing vacation for either one of us, and 2, he would be bored out of his gourd with no access to technology!"
ps - a house in the middle of nowhere, totally disconnected from the world - sounds like absolute heaven!!!
Tuff, I just spewed salad all
Tuff, I just spewed salad all over my keyboard.
DH actually believes that PigPen will be happy wandering around in the woods. Yeah, sure. Let him wander around somewhere he's never been, which has sketchy cell phone reception, and get lost.
hmmm maybe you're on to
hmmm maybe you're on to something...... }:) }:) }:)
Depending on where you're
Depending on where you're going, and how "deep woods" you'll be, wandering around in the woods could mean close encounters... bears, moose, bobcats, you name it. Let alone the poison ivy.
While this is good for 2-3
While this is good for 2-3 days, I believe PP will be bored for any time longer than that.
And this is what I would explain to DH. He and PP can commune with nature during one of the bonding weekends. No need for you to be miserable for 9 days (although I'm sure BM would LOVE that).
DH thinks the boy would enjoy
DH thinks the boy would enjoy himself. Piggy's too tied to technology to be happy for that long. DH is deluding himself.
And of course 'Ho would love it!! She and PP clash 99% of the time so he'd be out of her hair.
Nope, no way no how. First I
Nope, no way no how. First I have to ask. Do you have any kids going? I am assuming not.
I would tell DH this. “I know you probably want SS to go with us, but it is my vacation too and I really just wanted some adult time. I get to get away from work and kids and just relax with you.”
Willow, I do NOT have any
Willow, I do NOT have any bios. My children have always been furbabies. We will be taking Mr. P with us and he rides in the cargo area of my vehicle. Which means he'd be drooling/hot breathing all over anyone in the middle section...
Yes, I believe that I will ultimately have to tell DH that I also need a vacation and downtime and taking a skid/skids is not a vacation for me. Gads. I will feel like the bad guy.
I think you nailed it in your
I think you nailed it in your description. First...this is YOUR family's summer home and your SANCTUARY. If it makes you feel better; tell your DH that yes, you know this sounds selfish or whatever, but you don't care. It's yours...and you don't want to share it with the kids. Plain and Simple. It's yours. You want to share it with Him and Him alone. He can have any other time he wants with PigPen and PrincAss. Just not time at the Summer Home. It is sacred space.
Yes, it is indeed my
Yes, it is indeed my sanctuary. I don't think there will be any good way to tell DH without coming across as, well, selfish.
Agree with Gimlet totally.
Agree with Gimlet totally.
Ohhhhhhh Aniki.... First, BM
Ohhhhhhh Aniki....
First, BM .....wow she has some balls. That was a very large boundary stomping suggestion.
I would just tell DH that it was not what I had my heart set on and you don't want to do that. That's what I would tell mine.
I have the same situation as you. I have a family cabin, I have been with DH 6 years, and we have only brought SS15 to it two times. The first time he was a miserable little wretch. The second time I took my mom's advice and we let him bring a friend. He was still a little wretch. We went fishing, we all caught our max, and he was still a little POS. Crying, pouting, draaaamaaaa. Yeah, 14 and crying in front of his friend. God fishing was a nightmare. They wouldn't just let the hook sink. They didn't have patience, and they would constantly be dragging it in, snagging rocks, and DH spent the entire day putting new hooks on their poles, even after every time telling them to stop Fing reeling it in 2 min after casting it out. JESUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I played dumb like I didn't know how to put a new hook on }:)
The cabin has no tv or internet. There are board games and any toys are from the 60's or 80's. There is some pretty cool stuff, but it isn't cool enough for the snowflake generation.
I know you can say no, you are always quick with your words and intelligent. You can't take pigpen there...you just can't.
Lintini, first off, thank you
Lintini, first off, thank you for the compliment!
BioHo doesn't have a problem crashing over boundaries - never has. She thinks she has 100% say since they're her kids. It majorly chapped her arse that DH was no longer her beck-and-call boy and babysitter after he and I got together.
The place is very No Frills. Since children no longer go there, the only game available is a deck of cards - LOL! The books to read are 20-30 years old. It may be a simple place, but the living room furniture and mattresses are all new. PigPen has to be TOLD to take a shower. I don't want PigPen (aptly nicknamed) filthy-ing up the nice stuff.
Both of the skids eat anywhere and everywhere and they are slobs. Because no one lives there year 'round, we get mice. The one (and only) time my Dad let a cousin stay there, cuz did not wipe off the table and we arrived to a table covered with mouse poop and one dead mouse. :sick: Had to replace the tablecloth because it was ruined (plastic did not matter!).
PrincASS and PigPen are constantly vying for DH's attention (another reason I am ANYWHERE else on skid weekends) because they are jealous. If only one of them is with him, they can do something alone for AWHILE, but, eventually it's "I'm BOOOOOOOORED." Blech.
Heavenlike, it's a 12-hour
Heavenlike, it's a 12-hour drive, so it's all or none.
I wuv you, Fruity. <3
I wuv you, Fruity. <3
Alaskan cruise, please!!
Alaskan cruise, please!!
Aniki - are you growing soft
Aniki - are you growing soft with old age... what about the straight honest truth...
NO DH, we are not taking the children on holiday, we never took them before and we are not going to start now, and since when does BM have a say in our holidays.... now this is the end of it, ever ask me again about this and you will be self servicing for a while. I will go on my own and you can stay at home with your children, I'm not interested.
Then make sure you are not naked that day and cooking fully clothed, DH will know you are serious and listening cause your naked ass is not distracting his brain...
just be firm on it, now you can say after careful consideration and allot of thought the answer is Fuck
no..
Yes, Acra, I guess I'm
Yes, Acra, I guess I'm getting soft in my old age. Or maybe it's the combined stress of all that's happened that's got me frazzled and not thinking clearly.
see I warned you - stop
see I warned you - stop drinking and stop smoking and stop pole dancing... try and get me to walk the straight and narrow path like a mother, is not going to work
you stopped all the things that cancelled out the stress... get them back, we can start now drinking.. it's mid week after all... bottoms up.... }:)
Wineisthecure, I think both
Wineisthecure, I think both of those things are exactly what BioHo wants. 'Ho and PigPen clash CONSTANTLY. If PigPen is out of her hair for 9 days, she only has Spawn10 to deal with and she can get her oldest daughters to Spawn-sit while 'Ho parties.
This boy has very little patience and most definitely IS bored easily. There is nothing there for him to do: no garage to clean, no car to tinker on with DH, no games to play, no place to skateboard... Nothing in walking distance for him to do. Except walk in the woods.
Plus, I don't cook for skids. I certainly do not want to spend my vacation smelling French fries baking Every.Damn.Day. If it's not fried, PigPen pitches a mini hissy fit and has to be told to eat X amount of bites. Absolutely ridiculous for a 14yo.
I vacationed with SDs a lot
I vacationed with SDs a lot in previous relationship. It was a total and utter nightmare. My favorite was ex telling me to be more patient because we are adults snd they aren't. They were both adults at the time in their 20s. No kidding. Never again I'll vacation with SKs.
Granny, it's not like DH
Granny, it's not like DH doesn't spend one-on-one time with both PrincASS and PigPen. And this summer, Piggy will have DH aaaaaall to himself because PrincASS will be in the Army (bahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaa).
DH, bless his heart, honestly believes that PigPen will not be bored. It's a 12-hour drive, one way and I do all of the driving. I haven't spent more than a couple of hours around the skids in MONTHS. Damned if I'm going to spend 24 hours just DRIVING with that dirt magnet in MY car. (We always take my car because Mr. P fits in the back and I have a cargo carrier so we can take necessities [bedding, towels..] and fun stuff [H's bow, target, fishing equipment, kayaks...].)
These are the things PigPen likes: skateboarding, muscle cars, video games, and girls. Frankly, I cannot be bothered to spend 1 second of my time trying to find an activity for DH and Piggy to do together. Those weekends at the friend's farm will have to suffice.
DH is REALLY big on vegging when we go there. 2-3 of those 7 days, we don't even leave the property. Can you imagine a 14yo STRANDED for 2-3 days? The horror!!!
We don't yet know when we'll be going because DH has to cover the shift of someone who'll be out for several weeks after surgery. We usually go in May and October when the skids are still in school, but because PrincASS is graduating and enlisting, we're not going until June (DAMMIT!!).
So. I am not going to mention anything to DH right now. Sometimes he brings up things and then forgets about them. While I'm hoping this is the case, I'm not certain that will work. But the tears?? Crikey!! Tears do NOT work on DH (unless someone died or you're badly hurt) and I am not the type of woman who will use them.
Granny, unfortunately, I
Granny, unfortunately, I don't know of anyone who attempt to dissuade DH of the idea of taking Piggy (and PrincASS at a later date). I only talk skids on STalk. My sister (BFF) is single, never dealt with this situation, and has no sympathy or comprehension. I honestly cannot think of one single person in our circle who has skids. :O
Men are just clueless. My DH
Men are just clueless. My DH talked about taking SS14 with us to Valentine's Day dinner out. I said SS14?!?! Valentine's Day is for LOVERS DH and SS ain't that! He turned red and said Oh yeah umm ok you're right...just you and me then...
Just tell him you'd like adult time. As Gimmy said, it's not selflish, it's time to relax, enjoy yourself and spend quality adult time with the hubby.
Cooooookies, it is exactly
Cooooookies, it is exactly that! How can DH and I regenerate if DH is entertaining PigPen all day long and I'm building resentment that my sanctuary has been sullied? It simply cannot happen. As God is my witness, no skid will ever set foot on that property.