Hell NO!!!
Ds overheard dh and sd on the phone last night. He was really angry and I finally got it out of him, he said sd is going to use HIS room as a nursery for her baby!! I confronted dh and he said ds leaves for college the room doesn't need to be empty when the baby needs a room. What about breaks when he comes home? Dh said a blow up mattress in the babys room and the baby can sleep with sd when he is home. I don't think I can live like this. I really don't.
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It's best if baby's sleep in
It's best if baby's sleep in the same room as the parents. SD shares her room.
By the time the baby needs it's own room... SD should have moved out.
Dh wants them to stay till
Dh wants them to stay till the baby starts school! I don't think sd will stay that long but I do see her wanting to do a nursery and dh giving her ds room. GRRRRRRRRR
If she gets comfortable
If she gets comfortable enough and gets used to live-in babysitters, don't be so sure that she will be in a hurry to move out.
She really just needs to start out in her own place.
She isn't. Dh isn't going to
She isn't. Dh isn't going to let her. I wish she would. I won't babysit but I know dh will and he will do it all the time.
I'm sure she'll stay that
I'm sure she'll stay that long and then some. My Step Daughter in Law was the same age and in the same situation as your SD. After she got knocked up and baby daddy wanted nothing to do w/her, she moved into her old room, her son is 9 now. She got married to my ss and she moved him in, they had a baby and they all still live in her old room. Her older sister followed suit, had a kid and moved in too. Neither sister has any plans to go anywhere. Why would they when their parents are heavily subsidizing their lives.
The fact that your SD has life insurance money means she has money to pay for her school and extra to go party with young stupid guys who don't wear condoms.
^^^^THIS^^^^ Everybody gets
^^^^THIS^^^^
Everybody gets one room - baby shares mamma's room. Why should she move out if she has a private bedroom to herself and a nursery for the baby?
I am on DS's side..... no way
I am on DS's side..... no way SD will get 2 rooms in your house, DS should simply lock his bedroom when he leaves...
if SD does not like it she can find alternative accommodation...
remember it's your house as well, if the baby has a nursery in your house they are never going to move out
Dh will just unlock it. I am
Dh will just unlock it. I am so pissed right now!
change the lock and DH will
change the lock and DH will not have a key....
simply tell DH, NO.... your daughter can share with her kid, my son's room is off limits...
it is her house - she's been
it is her house - she's been married to this man for year, she cleaned after him, she cooks for him...
damn right she has a say......
if her kid is not welcome anymore then why the heck is his kid and baby welcome...
I get all off that.... but
I get all off that.... but why move an adult daughter into your house and she can claim 2 rooms and never contribute?
For 6-7 years? two adult ladies in one house rarely works out unless you are sister wives... they are not.
she can say to her DH - if you do this, I'm moving out cause clearly he does not care about her or her son...
but you are playing dirty - bringing the dog story in... hell I will kick my bio out of his room if it's needed for a dog....
Does it even really matter
Does it even really matter who legally OWNS the home? If they are married and living together as a couple, they should be making these decisions together. The difference between this post and the one with the SD with dog allergies is that that couple is pretty much at the point of separating (even if temporarily) for the sake of both their children. When your partnership ends THAT'S when it matter's who owns the home. I don't think it's relevant in this case unless the SM is at the point of separating the household, and I don't think anyone is being hypocritical because they are very different situations.
That is not her house. She
That is not her house. She and her children moved into his home. Now he has decided that he would rather provide a room for his bio grand child, than for his adult stepkid.
This man has basically made the same choice that many SMs here make. Once a 18 year old heads off to college, they lose their room. Many SMs here have said they want the room for an office, work out room, guest room, craft room... Most seem to agree that having a room sit empty while the SK is away at school is nuts. Now thay it's a stepdad making the same decision, there's a problem.
Even if the SD nfver moves into the home, the OP's husband has the right to say, your boys will share a room. That man is not obligated to provide her kids with anything in his home.
The only problem I kinda see is that he didn't discuss it with the OP first. But when it's your shit, you get yo do that.
Playing house(cooking, cleaning...) in someone else's home, doesn't make that home yours. Regardless of what you provide in that home, the owner has the final say. He/she can tell you and/or yours to get out at any time.
are you telling
are you telling me....
because she never paid money towards the house - she has no say, regardless if they are married 5/10/20 years?
another reason then why I never would get married, if you move in with the guy you are nothing but a guest for the rest of your life and have no say what to ever... so what kind of woman would give up her own home to become a life long guest with no home
Actually, ya'll are wrong.
Actually, ya'll are wrong. Legally, if she moves in and contributes to the household, the house becomes partially hers, particularly if they combine finances in any way. Her DH bought the house before they married....but that doesn't mean it's bought and paid for. If they've mingled finances and she's contributing to the house...then that means she's contributing to the mortgage, bills, and upkeep. So, yes, she does have a stake in the home.
I don't know OPs whole situation....but I moved into my DH's home and sold mine to help pay down the mortgage. Of course, I also made sure my name went on the deed...but even if I hadn't, I would own this house with my DH.
OP should get her name on the deed if she's contributed to the house. That way she gets to stay there if anything happens to DH. Protect your rights OP.
thank you !!!!! this is my
thank you !!!!!
this is my view as well - she does have a say
He is stupid is what he is.
He is stupid is what he is. We have a 4 bedroom house. 1 for me and dh (for now), sd, ds and ds. Dh wants to put a blow up mattress in the baby's room (MY SONS ROOM!!) or bunk beds in my other sons room and they can bunk together when ds is home on breaks.
What is wrong with your
What is wrong with your husband? Your SD wants to live on her own, for one, but he is not allowing that, and now he's going to up heave the entire household?
Is he going to insist that you breastfeed SD's baby for her, too?
Wait! You think I'll get to
Wait! You think I'll get to touch the baby? That's funny
Would you rather have baby
Would you rather have baby toys clogging up the communal areas of the house or confined to one room? Even if the baby doesn't sleep in the nursery for a few months, having a separate play space for the baby will likely make your home more peaceful if the baby is not in your face all of the time.
Your son is leaving home, just because he will be returning sometimes does not mean that his room needs to be a purpetual shrine to him. If you don't like the blow up matttess idea, come up with a compromise.
The whole point of the op's
The whole point of the op's rants is that the step daughter will be moving back into the house.
Right? He is not moving out,
Right? He is not moving out, he is going to college.
So my son looses him room
So my son looses him room because sd made bad decisions? You sound just like dh. The baby doesn't NEED a room.
Your son is leaving home.
Your son is leaving home. That room was never HIS to start with it is yours and your husband's. It is up to you two to decide what to do with the room. If you had a couple of extra kids who were sharing rooms and your son moved then I am sure you would be moving a kid into your son's old room.
My point is that I think that with the baby stuff confined to a nursery it will be less stressful for you and sd if you two are going to have to live in the same house. It will help to ease some resentment if you do not have to step over tons of baby stuff to get anywhere in our house. I do not think that the baby needs a room, but I do think it might be good for you if the baby does have a room.
I predict that this child
I predict that this child will be incredibly spoiled with this being a 1st grandchild plus trying to compensate for the fact that grandma is no longer w/them, there is going to be a lot of baby crap all over the house and not just in the nursery.
I'm not mad at the guy. My
I'm not mad at the guy. My grandkids have not been conceived yet, but I know for a fact that I will spoil the hell out of them. I can not wait to be THAT GRANDMA. LOL
Lol, I was going to say this
Lol, I was going to say this too! We'd start the day with 3 and by bedtime I was looking for any damn one like a needle in a haystack!
Yeah, that separate play
Yeah, that separate play space and "nursery" can be in SD room. How much do you want to bet me right now, that DH and SD will do all this happy horseshit of making baby a "nursery", kicking DS out of his room etc. and baby will end up sleeping in SD bed, in her room anyway?
Yes, Daizy, exactly! I had a
Yes, Daizy, exactly! I had a nursery for my son and hardly used it the first year. I kept the diapers and whatnot in there, but he didn't sleep in his crib until he outgrew his pack n play (that we kept with us in our room). Other than that he would be in whatever room I was in all day, be it the living room or kitchen, etc. I never actually spent time with him in his room as an infant.
I'm with the others who say the baby can bunk with SD. If they are so hellbent on doing the whole nursery thing, she should get her own place. This is not a very fair situation for the OP and I honestly don't think I could do it myself, and I like my SD. But I would not be ok with my DH unilaterally deciding that I was giving up not one, but 2 rooms in my own house for SD. Just no. What kills me the most about this is that the SD doesn't even want to move in but will let daddeeee "make" her? Is the term helicopter grandpa a thing? Cuz her DH is about to make it one.
She heard a heart beat so
She heard a heart beat so maybe 2 months? I believe dh said 8 weeks but I was shocked and my mind was racing.
As a side note, are prices of
As a side note, are prices of duplexes within reach of your SD's money? If so I might try to steer her towards buying a duplex and renting them out for income and/or living in one side and renting out the other side. That way she has an income and a place to live with her baby when she gets fed up of living with dad.
Sd allows dh to control her
Sd allows dh to control her money so she won't blow it. He is refusing to allow anything but her to move back in.
He is holding it and giving
He is holding it and giving her an allowance. They both agreed to this so she won't blow through it and i agree with it.
They might be amenable to
They might be amenable to investment suggestions though? It is the same idea, she would get rent as an allowance and the balance would be inaccessible to her so she couldn't blow it all. Plus she would have an asset that would probably earn more than wherever your husband is holding the money right now.
I can see not wanting her to
I can see not wanting her to blow the money and helping her to be financially responsible with it, but how is she supposed to grow up if he also makes her live under his roof? And until the kid starts school? What is this guy's deal?
He may end up blowing up both relationships, his marriage and his relationship with his daughter, if he insists on being so controlling.
Sorry but nope... I would be
Sorry but nope... I would be planning my exit strategy. She is financially independent. This is ridiculous on the part of your dh and quite frankly, would be a dealbreaker for me. Get out while you still can because once sd and new baby move in you'll be invisible.
I think she's already
I think she's already invisible.
OP, go house shopping. When he asks you what you're up to, just calmly and sweetly tell him he's let you know you have no property rights whatsoever so you're fixing that.
That may get his attention but I doubt it.
Just proceed. Buy the house. Maybe you can stay married living apart for awhile.
But really I don't see this ending well in any case. Your life and your marriage will be taken over by SD and her baby and GrandMonster. You will become angrier and angrier. The last years in high school of your boys will be overshadowed by arguments and babies and tension. Eventually you will split up anyway.
I say make your move now before you have taken that time away from your boys (I liked Rags' theory about not messing up the age of a younger kid an older kid has already been through) and made yourself very, very miserable. There's the tiniest chance it will be a wakeup call for dh. But mostly it will just save you years of bitterness.
I agree 1000% with everything
I agree 1000% with everything Chief said. Once sd and baby move in your life with dh will essentially be over. Seek peace for you and your bios by checking out of this completely mello-dramatic, over the top, codependent relationship your dh is fostering with sd.
Here lies the rub: He is
Here lies the rub: He is unilaterally making plans with his daughter instead of his wife about home, house and financial matter. Effectively kicking OP DS out of his room before discussing this with OP or her son. There marriage is already over. He doesn't see OP as an equal, as a partner or even as a friend to run things by. If it was me, I'd be seeking other accommodations.
Did you and your boys move
Did you and your boys move into his home? If so, then it's kind of crazy to expect him to give space in his home to his stepkid over his bio grandkid.
Having your boys share a room when the oldest comes home and having the baby have an room is a great idea. I have to admit, that if I were in the husband's shoes, I'd make the same choice. My first priority would be to my grand baby, not my stepkids.
Reply to Disney -- Unless she
Reply to Disney --
Unless she has been paying half the mortgage for many years. That is how it is here in our house. The house is in DH name only, but I am the only one paying the mortgage. We split our bills 50 50, and it is easier plus still roughly halved if I pay the mortgage and he pays utilities and cell phone bill.
In that case, I would feel that the house is still half mine since I have been paying on it for 6 or 7 years, and I would expect us to make decisions about it together.
If this is not the case, then why would I even help pay anything? That is how I would feel anyway.
I personally feel a reasonable compromise would be to give SD a room and have the baby bunk with her. To give out TWO rooms due to this in my opinion is asking too much, unless the OP does not contribute to the household.
You may feel that way, but if
You may feel that way, but if you are paying half the mortgage why are you not on the title? Doesn't seem that you have any legal ownership of the house you are paying for.
First I'll say that it sounds
First I'll say that it sounds like your DH is making these decisions on his own, which really isn't conducive to having a good relationship, I hope he realizes that and that y'all find some sort of compromise for this entire situation in general.
Second, the new recommended guidelines is that a baby should stay in the same room as a parent for at least the first year of life.
With that being said I think it would be a smart decision to NOT make a decision on what happens to the other room right now. It's creating a lot of conflict when there already seems to be a lot of issues and it's something that really doesn't need to be addressed for another 18 months. At that time you may feel the same, in that your DS deserves his own space, you may realize he doesn't come home as often as you thought he would, you may be fed up with baby stuff being everywhere and willing to let the baby use the room to have some space.
My suggestion would be to point out the new recommended guidelines to DH and say that your DS's room should not even be used until at least the baby is 1 year old, and it can be addressed at that time.
How nice of your DH and SD to
How nice of your DH and SD to unilaterally decide this shit. So SD has a room at your house?? Why can't baby be in THAT room? UGH
No fucking way would I be on board with my SD moving herself and her illegitimate baby into my house. No fucking way.
I've been gone for a while
I've been gone for a while and this is one heck of a post to read first.
The day DH entertains the thought of moving an expecting skid into my home is the day I move him out. Not that he would but still. And yes, that applies to my DD as well.
I cannot understand wanting to cripple your kids like that. It's another reason to wish good health for BM.
How do you handle bills in
How do you handle bills in your household, do you both own the house? I would be cutting my contributions in half.
All I read in your recent
All I read in your recent posts is: you have absolutely NO say in anything regarding his decisions. Zilch. Zero.
He once again made a decision regarding *HIS* house and *HIS* daughter, regardless of you and your children's feelings.
And this baby isn't even here yet.
But hopefully you will be gone by then...regardless of the situation, any spouse of mine who would make these decisions without even a discussion is not someone I would want to stay with.
My son if off to college this
My son if off to college this year and if I've learned anything it's been to preach the virtues of condoms and safe sex!!! OP, your son may not have his own room when he comes home but let's hope he's smarter than SD and doesn't have a young dumb baby mama in tow.
Hey honestly giving OPs DH
Hey honestly giving OPs DH the benefit of the doubt early on, I understand moving my DD (if I had one) in at 19 to help with a baby. My grandmother did this twice with her daughters: My aunt when she got pregnant at 16 and my mom when she got pregnant at 18. My aunt actually took my cousin daughter for the first year and my cousin had to keep her a$$ in college and when she finished she got her kid back.
Here's the kicker, both of these women were single so they could make unilateral decisions for their home. I really wanted to se OP's DH's side of this one, but darn this would be a hill for me to dye on. Depending on my relationship with SD I wouldn't mind the move in as long as it was discussed with me prior. OP your DH has lost his mind. Either help him find out or I suggest you leave for you and your DSs well being.
You have mentioned money is
You have mentioned money is tight. I hope you have enough to move out. There is no way this will work out. The father supports the daughter you hate. That will tear you apart.
OP never stated that she
OP never stated that she hated the SD, she actually said she was fine with her. The problem is the situation that she and her son are being put in due to pregnant SD moving home and wanting 2 rooms for her and unborn child.
Her first post ever was
Her first post ever was dripping with disdain for the daughter. I think the daughter is negotiating with her dad.
The problem is that the husband is clearly checked out of his marriage.
Once again I have to laugh at
Once again I have to laugh at the double standards. Can you imagine if a step kid demanded a step parent keep their room after they go to college and the step kid's parent didn't even own the house? Lol.
I think making the choice to
I think making the choice to move out is as easy as her husband making decisions without OP so yes, to me, it is that easy.
I would be making my plan of escape from now until she does actually move in.
Her husband is purposing that his child live with them until the child she is having is 5 years old, that is way past huge as* to me, he is in the "lost his mind" category in my book.
I agree with this. OP. You
I agree with this.
OP. You should go see a divorce lawyer quick. It could be that "HIS" house isn't as much his as he thinks it is. Protect yourself.
It is sounding like he wants
It is sounding like he wants a "do over". Unfortunately, it will feel like another divorce when (if) the SD and kid finally move out. He's really not doing anybody any favors.
It sounds like he is done
It sounds like he is done with op and her drama and not man enough to admit it to her.
My BS just moved out in June.
My BS just moved out in June. He left for the Marines and has been back twice for short visits and I would NOT let my DH move him out of his room.
My YSS10 made the comment (prior to BS leaving) that when BS leaves, he gets BS's room. Ummm No, you don't.
Yes my BS is launched. Yes My BS is living out of state in the Barracks. However, he still has a room in my home and there is no reason that should change. When he moves out of the barracks and into his own place, I will then change him room into something else. But since he has ZERO room for personal belongings in the barracks, he still has his room here.
My OSS19 is gone at college. BM didn't go taking his room away and giving it to one of the younger kids. Just didn't happen. OSS still comes home on breaks and in the summer and stays in his room.
I think it is wrong for your DH to take DS's room from him for an infant. Baby should stay with Momma in her room. Heck your DH has no idea how long SD will want to stay.
It might be reasonable to
It might be reasonable to give up a room if there are "crowding" issues in other rooms in the home.
For example.
You have two pre-teen children (boy and girl) and an older teen going off to college and only two rooms (for kids). I would say that it would be ok to have the two younger kids who are sharing a room get their own room and the older teen bunks with the child who matches their gender. My brother and I shared a room when we were young, but when I got to be 12 years old, I did have my own room and by default, so did my younger brother.
I don't think it's uncommon to have younger kids bunk together and have them get their own rooms when they are older and especially if there is another child who vacates a room.
It's nice if you can maintain your kid's room for them, but in some situations... there are others in the home that have more need (being there on the daily basis.)
In THIS case with the SD.. I think she should have the baby in her room and she should be out of there within a year or so. She doesn't need to take up permanent residence in there and a baby can easily fit into her room and it will actually be more convenient.
When I was in my late teens
When I was in my late teens and early 20s I had three different friends get booted out of their bedroom bc another sibling was having to move back home with a kid or kids in tow. None of these people were off at college either, they were living at home and commuting or school or not going to school at all but working. To me if you're not even going to be home nine months out of the year it's a no brainer, you don't need a bedroom at your parents house any longer when they could use the space for something else.
When my DD moved away to
When my DD moved away to college she never in million years asked/demanded/expected room to stay empty just because it's hers. It's beyond ridiculous what some adult children expect when they don't even live there full time. My DD told me to use the room for whatever the heck i wanted: crafts/office/guest room etc
I don't understand maintaining a shrine to kids who live elsewhere most of the year.
I wish your dh, op, would
I wish your dh, op, would come up with a sensible plan. Since he's in charge of the cash pot, why doesn't he recognize a woman starting a family needs a house? He should have her buy a home with that money, near a good school and all that.
If she doesn't reconcile with the father then perhaps she could stay with dad for 4 - 6 weeks to get through the most difficult time of birth and neonate. When she's got the hang of it and baby has put on a bit of weight, she can go back to her new house and start her life as a single mother. Cuz that's what she is. She is not daddy's little girl anymore. She is baby's mother. If she's determined be a mother then she needs to actually be one.
This is making me think through what we'd do if something happened to bm and sd turned up preggers. I still wouldn't want her in my house. But perhaps we'd spring for a limited amount of home care. Fingers crossed she just marries the boyfriend she's got now and we never are called upon in any way.