Messages from my fil...
So I've not spoke to this man in 18 months- at least- it maybe closer to 2 years. Dh has not spoke to him but once in 10 months. S he randomly messages my dh on Facebook sat nite. Tells him to give ME a message, about staying out of sil's business and its a joke if I think I've ev helped anyone in that family. He then called my dh a liar, said sme other nonsense, etc. dh told him he didn't wish to speak to him a coup,e of times- fil said dh was just too ashamed to talk to him. Smh over that one. Anywho, dh simply blocked him then. I wasn't going to respond in anyway until I see that he has got on my Facebook and posted messages on both my dd's photos about how he loves and misses them. Oh also in fils message to dh he told him it was a sin that ss15 didn't live with us and how good ss was doing.
So yeah I did it. I messaged him and told him to refrain from commenting on the kids pics- that he's never shown any real interest in them and they are certainly old enough to grasp this. It has been around 2 years since they have spoke to him either. He responds back with all sorts of bs- which I'm not going to repeat it all here- but let's just say that the man really is insane. Some of the highlights were- that my mil is a better mom than ill ever be, that dh and I have no morals and values especially for kids (whatever that means), that he has smoked a large amount of marijuana with me, that I've never done anything for ss.
He hardly spoke about sil at all- even though that was the stated reason for messaging dh in the first place- because apparently I'm harassing her ( my last contact with her was 9 months ago when I sent her a message and told her to please stop calling our home repeatedly)- it was all about ss. Almost every message he sent was about him and mil were raising ss. I finally told him I didn't care. He's not my kid- I told him why ss will never darken my doorstep- which is for many reasons, but the primary one is I feel he has been sexually assaultive to my dd.
Oh, my favorite comment was, "I'm sure ill be seeing you". I assume this was his way of threatening me. I have to admit it felt good to confront him with some truths-I have kept my mouth shut for 13 years. Never have I been disrespectful to these people, started any sort of conflict, I just kept taking one for team.
I have no idea what sort of blowback I'm gonna get from this. Dh knows about the messages- I don't think he really cares one way or the other, other than he thinks I'm wasting my time. Honestly, I was sort of hoping he'd make some specific threats so I could file a restraining order, but I just think the one he is made is too veiled. Maybe I'm wrong? Anyone have any experience with restraining orders?
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I am glad you responded.
I am glad you responded. Have you ever confronted your dh's toxic family members? I absolutely get what you are saying-if i roll around in the mud I'm not going to stay clean. It is a fine line I believe- I have now said a lot of what I have wanted to say for many years so, yes I am done. I do need to block him. Actually I did that right away after he sent dh the first message, then unblocked him when I found out about him on the kids pics. My intent was to leave a brief message telling him to stay away and then reblock him- unfortunately I found that you have to wait a whole 48 hours before blocking someone again! Lol!
He responded to my brief message so I responded back and we went on from there. I certainly have no thoughts that anything I would say would change their way of thinking. I found it all very interesting, honestly. I truly have had limited contact with these people. When we attended family gatherings they didn't really say anything to me beyond, hi, how are you- so I've guessed at the way they think all these years and dh has told me things they've said, but its just not the same as actually hearing it from their own mouths. Nothing he said bothered me or hurt my feelings- I do lead a really boring life, I don't do bad things, I feel very confident that ss being out of my home and my life was the only decision I could make in the best interest of MY children. No regrets. So there's not a whole lot of stuff he can say, except dumb stuff like mil is a better mother than me.
I do feel like I got to him though. I brought out some BIG guns and used them. I feel somewhat bad about that from a Christian perspective, as again I always try to the right thing- but at the same time I console myself with the fact that I didn't say any untruths, I didn't call names, or curse- but simply called him out on his behaviors- which are very ugly.
He has been blocked from my kids facebook for over a year now- I defriended him at the same time but never blocked him I guess. I will be able to do so tonight and plan on it.
I'm sure he does feel
I'm sure he does feel frustrated that he is raising ss. He probably thought those days were over for him. But I'm sure he would publicly say that none of it is ss' fault.
Is there any way anyone could get this kid committed? Or into some other program?
Yes I agree this is the root
Yes I agree this is the root of the issue. Not concern for ss, but just pissy because he's inconvenienced. I must add that we are quite certain he spends very little time tending to ss in any manner. Not really any actual parenting going on in general. Dh's va money is directly deposited into mils account and we cover all his medical care-so financially they are not providing for him. He has another grandchild living in the home as well as his 32year old son. He fully financially supports both of them. At least ss is bringing in income for them.
Can we get him committed ? No. It is really hard to find long term care for anyone in this day and age. We did look into some therapeutic boarding schools. They all w anted 30000 a year and he had 4 more years til he was 18 at that point. We can't really do a short term hospitalization as we could not really report any day to day behaviors that make him a current threat to anyone. When he turns 16 there are a couple places that may open up as possibilities. One is the job corp- and there is another facility here that takes kids for free when they are failing the public school system both academically and behaviorally (which he definitely is)- but not until age 16.
FYI - Job Corps (at least in
FYI - Job Corps (at least in my area) is on moratorium. They aren't accepting any new kids to the program due to budget cuts. Our area also had a 3 month wait list already.
The other question is - will your ILs LET ss go to a facility? How on earth would they be able to hold it over you, and play the martyr card if your DH actually gets the boy placed somewhere useful?
Ya know?
I suspect the kid is going to have to REALLY eff up - like cops involved, justice system engaged to force a placement - before that would happen.
I don't think they can stop
I don't think they can stop dh from sending him somewhere. He still has full custody