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DH and I agreed from the start that our collective children's wellbeing and happiness were paramount. There could be no serious relationship between us without acceptance and support from all four of the kids. My son was easy. He was 10 years old at the time and lived to please others. He quickly welcomed DH, told his father that DH was a "great guy", and invited DH to join our next family picture. So, other than some lessons on etiquette and empathy, our job with him was done. My daughter (12 at the time) was a harder sell. The day my kids met DH, we all went to a Halloween store for props to decorate the front porch. DH found himself alone for a moment with DD and, attempting to initiate a conversation, asked what her favourite scary movie was. She replied “Stepfather" without missing a beat. He was in for a bumpy ride. She made it her mission to dislike him. She literally worked at it. She wasn't outwardly rude, but she cut him no breaks. Six months and many grilled cheese sandwiches later (DH makes the best grilled cheese!), she caved. Some days I think she likes him more than she likes me.
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6 months of being the
6 months of being the stepchilds bitch and making her sandwiches while she is rude and disrespectful....Sounds great for a relationship. Thats definitely what we all dream of when we think of getting with someone lol
Fair enough!
Luckily, DH had his own experience with a preteen daughter and fully understood that she wasn't ready for the changes happening in her life. He was kind and patient, but he wasn't a doormat. He gave her time to adjust and it paid off.
If he likes it, i love it.
If he likes it, i love it. Some ppl are more patient than others. I personally have experienced all sorts of hate, disrespect and contempt from my steps and I have been in their lives consistently since the youngest was 4 and oldest 11. Nothing I ever did was good enough so I disengaged. They are now teens and young adults and still have some aversion towards me but we mostly ignore each other now. Countdown until 18. Its always strange to see children being hateful for no reason....thankfully, I am not someone who lives to be liked and im comfortable with being hated. I do wonder why teens and children act this way towards a random adult for no apparent reason. Probably for validation from exes and maybe out of jealousy who knows
At least both of you have steps so it sort of evens itself out in terms of being controlled and disrepected by each others children. You can sik your kids on his kids and vice versa. I have dreamed of having a child who could beat up my steps and make their lives hell lol
Making kids the priority and giving them near adult status
is a huge blended family parenting mistake IMHO. The adult relationship kids are raised as part of is the example that will define their own adult life relationships and how they parent. If a kid is made the priority, that kid has an erroneus understanding of their position as a child and the adult expecations for children in general.
My DW and I took the opposite position. The adult relationship that is center of a family, even a blended family, is the unequivocal priority. Kids and their wellbing are the top adult responsibility but not the priority and not paramount. Kids get no say in the family relationships. They are presented with standards of behavior and standards of performance, and they are held to those standards by the adults in the blended relationship. The family is paramount. The family led by the adult couple. Kids benefit from the quality of the adult relationship.
My parents made it clear to their sons that we were not the priority over our father's wife, or our mother's husband. We were also shown clearly that we were loved but not nearly the priority that mom and dad were to each other. My DW was raised similarly by her parents.
Our blended family began at a different time frame than yours. DW and I met when SS-30 was 15mos old. We married the week before he turned 2yo. I raised him as my own. As our standards for his behavior and performance were established when he was very young, we did not have the mid childhood transition to deal with like you and DH have had. While the shallow and pollueted end of my SS's gene pool certainly tried to inject the "he's not your dad" drama, we never tolerated it and SS did not try it. We made the standards clear, we communicated directly with SS on the facts of the blended family situation, and we tolerated no manipulation from the blended family opposition nor did we tolerate any behvioral crap from SS.
6mos of brooding SKid drama would not have been a pleasant thing for the perpetrating kid to have experienced the consquences of in our blended family. It would not have been tolerated for a single minute, much less for 6mos. Neither my DW, nor I would have allowed our child to treat or mate with disrespect and neither of us would have tolerated it from our mates failed family progeny.
Like you mentioned is the case with your DD, in some ways my SS is more comfortably talking with me than he is with his mom. He will talk with me about SpermClan drama and avoids bringing up those discussions with his mom. I think that is due to how upset it all makes his mom. For me it is just a topic of conversation, I focus on their behaviors, and work with him on how to address toxic behaviors from his SpermClan. His mom gets angry with them. I give SS the facts, we discuss how their lies are countered by the facts, and we discuss how he can counter their lies in real time with the facts. He learned to pretect himself very effectively as he was growing up, and he protects himself from their toxic crap as an adult.
What did your DH's children bring to the blending effort? Just curious how your SKids played into the blending process. How did your Skids accept and participate in the blending of your marriage? Was your 12yo DD the only one who struggled?
We definitely made mistakes,
We definitely made mistakes, which is why I decided to write about the experience. But how we handled my DD wasn't one of them. She wasn't outwardly rude to DH. Please remember that DH and I were only dating at this point, and my separation from my ex was recent. She was struggling to maintain some measure of control and autonomy over her life, while the foundation around her changed. I don't regret prioritizing my children at that stage.
Having the fate of your
Having the fate of your relationship hinge on the opinions of 4 kids was a mistake. Kids don't know what they want. When i was a kid i wanted to marry my cat. Kids change their minds about things 10 times a day, and in your case there were 4 constantly changing opinions to juggle. That may have set a shiftable foundation of the relationship. But without knowing what exactly happened that was bad, it's hard to say.
Welcome to the site. I'm glad
Welcome to the site. I'm glad this has worked out for you. Just so you are aware, this site tends to be the place where folks in unhealthy step/blended family dynamics come to vent. Your attitude and outlook in this situation worked because you had the backing (I assume) of all the adults around your children. Basically, don't be surprised if folks don't agree with the approach you took because others have taken (or been taken by) similar approaches and it went sideways because of many factors often outside the SP's control.
So again, welcome! You don't have to paint a rosy picture of blended family life. We all know it can be hard, that it can suck, and there isn't always a good solution. There is a balance between helping kids cope with divorce and blending families while also not allowing them to dictate your adult life until you die. So, if things are rosy for you, I really am happy for you that they are! If they aren't all sunshine and rainbows, you have my sympathy and any useful advice that I can spew out.
PAS, HCGUBM... Definitely
PAS, HCGUBM... Definitely storms in steplife weather.
I am learning, as a SK myself
I am learning, as a SK myself, that relationships can change at any point throughout life. I am struggling with my mom and SF now where they used to be my shining example of how to do things (hahahahaha...so naive). I've also watched OSD go from super driven to super lazy in early adulthood, so my silver lining with him is starting to rust over. The only constant is inconsistency.
You know that BioHo
You know that BioHo successfully PAS' and step-PAS'd the SDs foe a time. I never tried to "get through" to them with the truth - just continued to be myself and plod along the same course. 'Ho's lies and bs were eventually exposed and I've had a good relationship with all of the skids for several years now. However, I believe in Constant Vigilance. Despite her toxicity, 'Ho is their mother. *unknw*
For sure. In life... the only constant.... is change.
I have made the foundation of my career ... change. I am a change agent and a change manager. It took me a very long time to realize this, but being the change guy does not make for long term stability in a role. The change guy generally is not the person companies want leading the changed organization long term.
One of my few regrets, is that I did not realize this earlier.
Relationships can change. The challenge is working to navigate that change together. DW and I have had a few periods of change and challenging re-alignment. SS and I have had a few.
Everyone has them.
Take care of yourself Lt.
I'm glad it's working out for
I'm glad it's working out for you. Many of us have taken the "just try harder" approach, spending emotional and financial capital on stepkids who would have none of it. And then we found ourselves here to figure out what happened.
You don't mention HIS kids. Usually stepmothers are even less accepted than stepfathers. Have his kids accepted you, and did you take the same approach with them?
Stay tuned …it’s a long story
I'm posting pieces at a time as i write and reflect. The short answer is that we took the sam approach with my SKs and stand by the approach. We didn't let any of the kids control our own feelings or decisions about our relationship, we just gave them some say in what they wanted their relationship to be with eachother.
I was going to say
That based on your first blog, this is leading somewhere and its not been all roses and rainbows.
Welcome
As LtDad said, you are on a site where our attempts at blending have failed due to HCBM, PAS, SKs with zero accountability and the approval of craptastic behaviors directed at us, the SM/SFs (denial of bad behavior is enabling and approving) so be aware.
While I don't know all your dynamics, I am glad things worked out for you. In my world, letting a 12 year old disrespect your spouse for 6 months is, in my opinion, giving a child way too much power and sets a standard. And as LtDad said, things can change in an instant, even with adult SKs. Just search this board and see how many of us deal with the disgusting behaviors of ADULTS in their 30's and 40's.
When I met DH, my kids (one just in college and one teen) were clearly told, they may not like DH but they WILL respect him in our home or consequences will be handed out. 16 years later, my kids and DH have fantastic relationships. I had the same standard when my former husband re-coupled. Kids were told...respect her or get ready for your consequences. Same outcome. Great relationships all around, including with me. If only my DH had even near the same approach as I did. But no...he chose a "ignore, they will come around." Funny....16 years later and they still try to torment me. SMH
Again, welcome. Glad your approached worked for you.
Just to clarify…
...I didn't let my DD disrespect my DH. I just didn't force the relationship on her. My rule for my kids has always been, you don't have to like someone, but you still have to treat them with dignity and respect. My DD was determined to not like DH but she wasn't disrespectful.
Welcome
I just read your first blog. Are you going to write about what happened 6 months after the wedding? Inquiring minds want to know!!
Also I am dang glad it worked out. Although giving kids the leeway to dictate in my books isnt great. But WTH do I know I have no bios. I just think your DH took too much for the team so to speak.
Blessings
The whole story is coming…
...I just want to give all of the relevant background.
I’ve been lurking on steptalk for the better part of
the year... since our situation took a huge hit. I know so many people on this site have been hurt, disrespected and alienated by their SKs. I really want to clarify that my DD wasn't rude or disrespectful to my DH. I would never stand back and let my kids be disrespectful to anyone. And yes, as a couple of people mentioned, we had the advantage of sane exes who have caused us very little grief. All of the parents involved focused on supporting the kids vs their own feelings. My ex was very detached from our family by the time we separated. He had fears about DH taking his place in his children's lives. But he knew that our kids would be better off without conflict and so he worked on his own relationship with his kids instead of trying to undermine their relationships with DH. I know our situation is very unusual. It's why I think it's important to share. We hit step family gold for 10 years and didn't realize how vulnerable we still were.
All our stories
All our stories have many different layers, details and textures. I understand this has multiple chapters, and arent yet looking for advice or much in the way of commentary until you have reached the "now" of things. This journaling of your experiences is extremely helpful and cathartic. Being as how all this happened in the past, Im suggesting perhaps a tag of some sort so we know the time chronology.
A whole year..well no need for me to introduce myself.
And welcome to the site!
Thanks For Clarifying
the daughter's behaviors.
I also have a success story in the Step world. Everyone on my side (ex, SM, my bio kids, her bio kids, extended family) ALL get along. We had our bumps but we stayed consistent in expectations and clear on consequences. Its been so wonderful on my side. We've never had to split events such as birthdays, graduations, etc. Today, I strongly believe our success story is due to our being consistent in what we expected from the kids.
I am grateful for having it good on one side. With the pure hell DH's kids and his ex put me through, I don't think I could have handled two doses of toxic.
Your BKs know boundaries and are respectful.
You... are a successful parent.
That has been increasing clear as you share your unfolding story.
I look forward to the next installment.
I will stay tuned. Same Bat time, same Bat channel.
I am interested to hear how
I am interested to hear how this turned out and how it's going. I think her DH stuck with it because she likely supported HIM when the kids were acting up and addressed their behaviors directly. That's the only way it would work. The kids were a priority but not the end all be all is what I get from her story so far.