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step_mamoo's picture

Hello! I am new to StepTalk and this is my first entry. I have been married for 3 1/2 years. My husband has 3 children. One is an adult and on her own. The other were 8 (daughter) and 10 (son) when we married. They are now 11 & 14.

I have 3 boys and they are all adults and living on their own. 

I...AM...STRUGGLING! If I hear one more time "Well, you signed up for this." I'm going to lose it! Yes, I did. I knew I was starting all over again when I entered into this marriage. That doesn't mean however; that life is going to be perfect. That I should just put up and shut up! This stuff is HARD!

My husband is my age. He had children later in life. His oldest daughter is from his 1st marriage. His younger two children are from a different relationship w/a lady 12 years his junior.  And she is a mama bear! I get that. I get it. But I literally have no say in what goes on in my own home. These two children are sassy, they talk back and they appreciate nothing. I could go on and on with examples but I don't want to bore you. I will simply slip on here and blow off some steam when a situation arises. Which is often....

I don't know if it's because I've raised 3 boys that I get a long better w/SS then I do SD??? SS has issues too, no doubt but my biggest struggle is SD. I feel like I'm failing. I want to have a good relationship w/both of them but I have such a hard time tolerating the rudeness and entitlement. If my boys had acted like this, life would not have been good for them at all.

Any suggestions or just plain support is most appreciated! :) 

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JRI's picture

How does your DH feel about the sass and the lip?  If you've read on here, you know most of these issues start with the parent and there's not a lot we step-parents can do if the bio parent isn't responding.

step_mamoo's picture

I feel he gives in to her more than the others because she's his "baby girl". He does get after her to a point but definitely not where my expectations are. Here's an example just today:

We took the kids on a weekend trip to a water park.This is long overdue given that we haven't done much w/them over the last few years due to Covid. So...we're all excited. And she was good until...it was over. Then life was stupid pretty much. It was bedtime last night and she was targeting her brother, rolling her eyes, threw something at the wall in the hotel room. Nothing was good enough. She woke up w/that attitude and it continued for the 3 hour ride home. Brother couldn't look at her w/out getting yelled at. Breakfast at the restaurant wasn't good. Refused to sit next to her brother. Was mad because she didn't get sausage (she didn't order it). At the gas station, they were told they could get something to drink for the ride home but that was it. We were snacked out of money. She grabbed a water and a pack of bubble gum. Dad said no so then she wasn't going to get the water either because life was over. Back in the car she's yelling at brother to "STOP". He wasn't doing anything. Dad tell's brother to just deal with it because she's "just crabby". No!!!!! This is not ok!! Her love language is definitely "When your doing for me, I'll love you. When your not doing for me, I won't waste my time on you." Dad just excused her behavior by blaming it on being crabby. She is constantly and consistenly crabby in the morning. And I mean....every morning. Her mother is crabby in the morning. This is a learned behavior. And dad tries everything under the sun to make her happy. I can see once or twice trying to get her to crack a smile but after that, you want to be crabby go to your room and don't come out until you can at the very least, treat people respectfully. So dad's responses are 50/50. It's a crap shoot! 

JRI's picture

He sounds like he's acting like a guilty divorced dad.  Otherwise, he'd be saying, " Cut that #@$^ out!".  The reason I know is that I had guilty divorced dad here, too.  He shaped up some once the SKs moved in full time but still indulges "poor, pitiful" SD60.

step_mamoo's picture

I definitely think there's a bit of that. I am the evil SM here. If I say anything, I'm the bad guy! Then of course, we got into an arguement once we dropped them off at moms. I tried to explain to him that he totally made it "ok" to treat others like crap because she is "just crabby". Instant defense mode!! 

Winterglow's picture

Have you ever asked him if he thinks constant crabbiness is normal? From what you wrote here it isn't just in the mornings, it's all darn day. Maybe point out to him that she'll be pretty much unemployable (and be friendless - noboddy loves a grinch) if she doesn't get a handle on her mood swings (yes, crabbiness is a mood swing, just but her something and see her smile... or vice versa). So what is he going to do to help her get a grip on her emotions? Maybe counselling? Maybe get her screened for depression?

step_mamoo's picture

She is not depressed. She is entitled. Not to single out any group but BM is a Millennial and the only girl in her family. So she was raised on a pedestal. Whatever she wanted was given to her. Participation trophies, waited on hand and foot. BM is very entitled herself and is raising her own children in that same environment. And it shows....

ESMOD's picture

A little bit of crabbiness after an overstimulating and exhausting day at a theme park is not completely unexpected.  However, that does not mean that as parents we just ignore it and hope it improves... what is that saying.. hope in one hand.. crap in the other.. see which one fills up first? 

My parents were very much "it's ok to not be in a good mood, but you don't get to inflict your mood on the rest of the household.  If you are feeling crabby.. you can go to your room and be crabby there.. and can come back out when you are ready to be pleasant to everyone"  And.... I if my parents had ever taken us to something like a theme park.. (my parents never did.. that was not their kind of vacationing.. battlefields, cathedrals.. museums.. and the occasional beach trip at best..haha)... and one of us acted the fool like your SD did?  We would have quickly been "pulled up short" and told that if our attitude did not improve IMMEDIATELY that this would likely be the last time they saw a pair of mouse ears in their damn life.  and clearly.. we were overtired.. so go to bed immediately.

Now... don't underestimate the power of PITA boys either.. that kid may have been the houdini of bugging his sister.. my little brother was awfully good at doing very small things that he knew would irritate me until I BLEW UP.. then I got in trouble.

JRI's picture

Read around on Steptalk and you will see hundreds of cases like yours where guilty dad defends poor behavior and stepmom is evil for bringing up the topic.  You might want to look carefully at the Disengagement section of the Forums.  It's the last resort for many of us.

shamds's picture

3.5 yrs into my marriage and 2 kids with hubby. They had disappeared and ended contact with their dad for 5.5 yrs.

they answered back and actively in fromt of their dad would answer back when i said very clearly "no don't do that to my kids because they will get very sick" etc and the little shits would say "its ok we'll give a little".

i answered "NOOOOOOOOOOO" and hubby would hear that and say "listen to your stepmum"

it wasn't till about 1.5 yrs later hubby was forced to address this with eldest sd. He reminded her that i was his wife and the mother of our 2 kids, therefore what i say goes!! There is no answering back and he reminded her she was his daughter, not the mother of our kids and therefore should no her place is below mine when it comes to our kids.

she sulked but biomum had elevated eldest sd to mother figure of youngest sd and so she thought she was level with me. I made it clear to my husband there would never be a day where i would ever have to justify myself to sd's or have them answer me back ever and if he was not gonna do anything about it, then this marriage would no longer continue.

np way do I tolerate answering back and toxic arseholes. The whole "oh but they're rebellious teens and their mum made them this way", nope, I don't give a shit what goes on in bio mums home. In our household and our family, this shit doesn't fly!! 

justmakingthebest's picture

I agree with those who said you signed up to be his wife- that's all. Your vows were to each other, not to his kids. They have 2 parents, you aren't either of those parents. 

I also understand bonding more with your SS than SD. I have 2 SS's, a BioSon and a BioDaughter. GIRLS ARE HARD. Like.... REALLY HARD. Especially now as a teen. I am not prepared or even feel equipped some days to deal with my own daughter. She is mean now. She used to be the kindest, sweetest little girl. Then she turned 13 and this flip switched and holy crap. She is almost 15 now and starting to show moments of the girl that I have raised again, but man. She is tough. 

But going back to your real problem- It is your husband. Explain to him that you have no problem being "Fun Auntie" that you are there for the good stuff but you aren't going to fuss at them. You aren't going to follow up with homework. You aren't going to enforce chores. HE IS. And you will privately tell him when he needs to address something that is bothering you and HE WILL deal with it. You will make popcorn and set up movie night Smile The end. Get on board or find someone else to be your door mat. 

classyNJ's picture

I heard the "you signed up for this" just once and it wasn't about me - it was a conversation about the SF.

I put a stop to it right there and then.  I said "no, he didn't sign up for THIS and neither did I. What we signed up for is what we were lead to BELIEVE.  We believed that the kids had 2 parents, not 4.  We believed that you co-parented in a healthy way and did things for the best of your children.  We believed that you would both parent your children and teach them right from wrong, respect and common sense"  I told DH that I love him and am with him inspite of his children. 

Since DH is sensible he understood and the light clicked on.  DBDB not so much.  She is just living her life trying to destory DH's.

CLove's picture

LOL. That is a guarrantee. You absolutely did NOT "sign up" to be dealing with bratty skids. There are a few different issues that you brought too light in this intro post.

1. SD is "crabby", and daddy-cakes does the monkee dance to appease her. She is doing this precisely to see the monkee dance. HIS behavior is encouraging HER behavior. He is effectively rewarding her behavior.

2. He gets defensive when you try to discuss this with you. You and he are a team, you and he need to be united, not divided. This will get worse over time, not better. Read on here, and as mentioned in other comments and other posts, the issue is primarily the parents. You cannot control what happens with the other household. all you can do is manage your own household. Is she the 14 year old or 11? She sounds like a teenager.

I got  lucky with my younger SD - shes generally a people pleaser and kind and respectful. Her sister on the other hand is a nightmare. She is 22, and I met her at 15. Luckily she moved far away.

Your husband is helping to create a literal monster. It does not bode well if you cannot discuss this with him.

Merry's picture

I can only imagine how your SS feels. He's the target of SD's bad behavior, and his own father won't intervene. Talk about telling someone that he is not worthy of basic manners and civility must be crushing.

"You knew what you were getting into" is just code for "I'm too lazy to parent my children and how dare you call me out on it."

Ispofacto's picture

You are not required to go on outings with these brats.  Don't go unless/until DH reins them in.  Curl up with a good book or your favorite TV show.

 

step_mamoo's picture

I want to be clear that my husband has never said "You signed up for this." It's other people. Friends and family. When I struggle to talk to my husband about these issues because he becomes so defensive, it would be nice to be able to reach out to friends/family for support, advise, whatever but that is the common response that I get. Hence why I joined this group! Thank you for all of the comments and support! At least I know I'm not alone and not going crazy. You all rock!