So out of his 7 children she is the only one concerned? Psst your mini wife is showing! And really the 2nd wife has been married to him longer than the first wife ever was...so yeah she must just be in it for his money...eye roll!
Is my biggest fear ☹️ I couldnt agree more with both of you. There is something just as disturbing with the judicial system entertaining this. The last almost 2 years of silence from my sd has been a different, calm, happy, world...although I absolutely know if something happened to her father tomorrow we would hear from her and some.
I cannot imagine how awful this ordeal was for his wife of 35 years! Im sure many of us on here live in fear of the next shoe to drop. It just never ends. No matter what care, love and devotion we provide, it will never be good enough. Only they know best. They will always find a way to try and undermine us. I can only imagine what controversy this devoted daddys girl has up her sleeve upon dearest daddeees death.
Would you guys actually block your skids from seeing their father? Apparently I'm in the minority in siding with the daughter. The SM had no business blocking his kids from seeing him.
I have no idea if that's the case here, but what if there is an estrangement and the parent (one with NO memory problems) has specifically stated they have NO wish to see the estranged offspring? It's possible. My psycho exh's father expressly forbade psycho exh and sister from visiting him in the hospital. Only his second family (he actually gave the second son the EXACT SAME NAME as psycho).
I would not block my SS34 from seeing DH - but my SS is only a taker. He never has any interest in doing anything that does not give him money. I've seen DH ask him to do things - DH always had to provide SS with cash to help even with the simplest tasks.
I could tell SS that DH was dying - but he would not lift a finger unless he thought he could collect some funds for helping. But I would have ZERO problem with not telling SS that DH had died. My DH does not want a big funeral, etc. I would probably have a memorial service in our backyard - that DH loves as it backs up to a park with a lake). SS would NOT be included. But as I am almost a decade older I will probably go first so I won't care what happens.
That IS sad! DH and I are huge Tim Conway fans - from McHale's Navy to Carol Burnett to Barnacle Boy (SpongeBob). I hope that all of those involved truly care about Mr. Conway's care and not his fortune (if any). My Mom had Alzheimers/Dementia. It's heartbreaking to watch a loved one suffer through this.
Looks like they settled - the wife remains the conservator but the daughter is allowed to see her father and talk to his health care professionals. Sad that they couldn't just do that without a court battle. At least he's oblivious to it.
That is good. As much as Conway may have earned a lot of money, who knows how much he has kept. There are plenty of celebrities who have squandered money. Even in intact families, there are disagreements over money, care, etc. The daughters may want him in the Cadillac of assisted living, the wife may worry she will be eating cat food at some point. Nothing is easy.
This is sad... I guess I don't get why the WIFE's decision making was called into question??? Wife for 35 years, I'd hope they'd talked about his wishes at least some. I honeslty think his daughter was giving a VERY entitled sense by even trying to go for the rights.... She doesn't know best, and you know if it had been her mom that she'd NEVER have tried to go for it. It's one of those things only a SM/ "second" wife would ever have to deal with.
However I do have to agree with tog on the fact the daughter wasn't allowed to see her father. Unless there was something sketchy going on, like she was trying to get him to sign away everything to her, or she was causing him damage, abusive, etc. Then honeslty it was cruel for the SM to be blocking them from seeing each other....
This is one of those crappy situations all around. I hope that everyone actually remembers that it's HIS best interest they need to be keeping in mind here...
limits access, the courts are very nervous about abuse. This can happen with siblings with an elderly parent. This can happen with abusive husbands stopping wives from seeing friends and family. We dont know what happened here, but the courts did issue an order allowing access.
I could see the hesitancy there. I also tend to question other things as well in that case .Like are they limiting access for a specific reason? Or is it really just because they're an a$$hole?
Dh and I have signed medical directives and I know I might have this problem in our future. We have been married 15 years. But Tim Conway was married 35 years and his CHILD, 1 out of 7, supposedly knew best for him?
DH's princess didn't even bother checking on when he had to deal with Hurricane Irma, but I sure she will be wanting to save the day if something medical happens to her father.
We have tried to make all things as airtight as legally possible, however, some of these adult stepchildren know no limits.
I would be willing to concur in most normal situations step parents are reasonable, especially after 30 years of marriage. This situation, it appears, this particular adult child is the only one with concern. I have observed in a family I know the hospital staff ask an adult stepchild to leave and not return because their behavior was not good for their patient, who by the way was in a coma. I applauded the staff.
I do know the stepchild I have dealt with WILL be a problem. In the event her father would become critically ill I do not give one thought or care what anyone would think of me when her disturbing presence will not be permitted to see her father...we have suffered enough. She has had two years if she was so concerned to see her father and in this time two family emergencies death and illness still heard nothing. Actions have consequences we must live with...all of us and I am prepared to live with mine in good conscious.
Reminds me of the Kasey Kasem drama. I beleive he was married to his second wife for 25 ish years and the first set of kids somehow wrestled medical decision making away from the wife. As soon as skids had control they took their father off his feeding tube and let him die. He starved to death! Apparently she did keep his first set of kids away from him and with good reason. What a sad ending to an amazing mans life.
This is one of my fears, too. I want to make sure that I do right by the skids, but I also want to protect my interests.
Right now, none of them are money-grubbing in the least (surprising given their mother) but who knows how/if that will change in the future when there's real money on the line. Thankfully, we have a joint household account but then all other savings accounts etc. are already in my name only (and being funded primarily by yours truly) with DH as beneficiary on some and my little sister as beneficiary on others. So...hopefully there will be very little in DH's "estate" that skids could come after even if they tried.
But yeah. I spend 20 hours a day with DH most days...sometimes 24 since we both work from home a lot...and sleep next to the man every night. If we both reach old age, we'll have been married 40-50 years when he passes...assuming he goes before me. Like hell one of his kids knows him better than me or knows what's best for him.
I can't believe the courts entertain this nonsense.
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Indeed. According to the
Indeed. According to the article, Conway has been married to his second wife for 35 years. But apparently his princess knows best.
I wonder if his daughter is willing to pay for her adored daaddee's care?
So out of his 7 children she
So out of his 7 children she is the only one concerned? Psst your mini wife is showing! And really the 2nd wife has been married to him longer than the first wife ever was...so yeah she must just be in it for his money...eye roll!
This sort of situation
Is my biggest fear ☹️ I couldnt agree more with both of you. There is something just as disturbing with the judicial system entertaining this. The last almost 2 years of silence from my sd has been a different, calm, happy, world...although I absolutely know if something happened to her father tomorrow we would hear from her and some.
This makes my blood boil...
I cannot imagine how awful this ordeal was for his wife of 35 years! Im sure many of us on here live in fear of the next shoe to drop. It just never ends. No matter what care, love and devotion we provide, it will never be good enough. Only they know best. They will always find a way to try and undermine us. I can only imagine what controversy this devoted daddys girl has up her sleeve upon dearest daddeees death.
Would you guys actually block
Would you guys actually block your skids from seeing their father? Apparently I'm in the minority in siding with the daughter. The SM had no business blocking his kids from seeing him.
I have no idea if that's the
I have no idea if that's the case here, but what if there is an estrangement and the parent (one with NO memory problems) has specifically stated they have NO wish to see the estranged offspring? It's possible. My psycho exh's father expressly forbade psycho exh and sister from visiting him in the hospital. Only his second family (he actually gave the second son the EXACT SAME NAME as psycho).
I would not block my SS34
I would not block my SS34 from seeing DH - but my SS is only a taker. He never has any interest in doing anything that does not give him money. I've seen DH ask him to do things - DH always had to provide SS with cash to help even with the simplest tasks.
I could tell SS that DH was dying - but he would not lift a finger unless he thought he could collect some funds for helping. But I would have ZERO problem with not telling SS that DH had died. My DH does not want a big funeral, etc. I would probably have a memorial service in our backyard - that DH loves as it backs up to a park with a lake). SS would NOT be included. But as I am almost a decade older I will probably go first so I won't care what happens.
That IS sad! DH and I are
That IS sad! DH and I are huge Tim Conway fans - from McHale's Navy to Carol Burnett to Barnacle Boy (SpongeBob). I hope that all of those involved truly care about Mr. Conway's care and not his fortune (if any). My Mom had Alzheimers/Dementia. It's heartbreaking to watch a loved one suffer through this.
Looks like they settled - the
Looks like they settled - the wife remains the conservator but the daughter is allowed to see her father and talk to his health care professionals. Sad that they couldn't just do that without a court battle. At least he's oblivious to it.
I sincererly hope he IS
I sincererly hope he IS unaware, but he could have moments of clarity. My Mom did.
it seems they worked out a compromise
That is good. As much as Conway may have earned a lot of money, who knows how much he has kept. There are plenty of celebrities who have squandered money. Even in intact families, there are disagreements over money, care, etc. The daughters may want him in the Cadillac of assisted living, the wife may worry she will be eating cat food at some point. Nothing is easy.
This is sad... I guess I don
This is sad... I guess I don't get why the WIFE's decision making was called into question??? Wife for 35 years, I'd hope they'd talked about his wishes at least some. I honeslty think his daughter was giving a VERY entitled sense by even trying to go for the rights.... She doesn't know best, and you know if it had been her mom that she'd NEVER have tried to go for it. It's one of those things only a SM/ "second" wife would ever have to deal with.
However I do have to agree with tog on the fact the daughter wasn't allowed to see her father. Unless there was something sketchy going on, like she was trying to get him to sign away everything to her, or she was causing him damage, abusive, etc. Then honeslty it was cruel for the SM to be blocking them from seeing each other....
This is one of those crappy situations all around. I hope that everyone actually remembers that it's HIS best interest they need to be keeping in mind here...
I think that any time the primary caregiver
limits access, the courts are very nervous about abuse. This can happen with siblings with an elderly parent. This can happen with abusive husbands stopping wives from seeing friends and family. We dont know what happened here, but the courts did issue an order allowing access.
I could see the hesitancy
I could see the hesitancy there. I also tend to question other things as well in that case .Like are they limiting access for a specific reason? Or is it really just because they're an a$$hole?
Dh and I have signed medical
Dh and I have signed medical directives and I know I might have this problem in our future. We have been married 15 years. But Tim Conway was married 35 years and his CHILD, 1 out of 7, supposedly knew best for him?
DH's princess didn't even bother checking on when he had to deal with Hurricane Irma, but I sure she will be wanting to save the day if something medical happens to her father.
Lamb...my husband and I do as well....
We have tried to make all things as airtight as legally possible, however, some of these adult stepchildren know no limits.
I would be willing to concur in most normal situations step parents are reasonable, especially after 30 years of marriage. This situation, it appears, this particular adult child is the only one with concern. I have observed in a family I know the hospital staff ask an adult stepchild to leave and not return because their behavior was not good for their patient, who by the way was in a coma. I applauded the staff.
I do know the stepchild I have dealt with WILL be a problem. In the event her father would become critically ill I do not give one thought or care what anyone would think of me when her disturbing presence will not be permitted to see her father...we have suffered enough. She has had two years if she was so concerned to see her father and in this time two family emergencies death and illness still heard nothing. Actions have consequences we must live with...all of us and I am prepared to live with mine in good conscious.
Reminds me of the Kasey Kasem
Reminds me of the Kasey Kasem drama. I beleive he was married to his second wife for 25 ish years and the first set of kids somehow wrestled medical decision making away from the wife. As soon as skids had control they took their father off his feeding tube and let him die. He starved to death! Apparently she did keep his first set of kids away from him and with good reason. What a sad ending to an amazing mans life.
This is one of my fears, too.
This is one of my fears, too. I want to make sure that I do right by the skids, but I also want to protect my interests.
Right now, none of them are money-grubbing in the least (surprising given their mother) but who knows how/if that will change in the future when there's real money on the line. Thankfully, we have a joint household account but then all other savings accounts etc. are already in my name only (and being funded primarily by yours truly) with DH as beneficiary on some and my little sister as beneficiary on others. So...hopefully there will be very little in DH's "estate" that skids could come after even if they tried.
But yeah. I spend 20 hours a day with DH most days...sometimes 24 since we both work from home a lot...and sleep next to the man every night. If we both reach old age, we'll have been married 40-50 years when he passes...assuming he goes before me. Like hell one of his kids knows him better than me or knows what's best for him.
I can't believe the courts entertain this nonsense.
Frank Sinatra did it right.
Frank Sinatra did it right. He had a clause in his will that if any family member contested it, they would get nothing.