I just gotta unload everything that happened so far.
This is going to be incredibly long. But, I feel like I can't come back here with updates until I set the scene.
I have been dating my boyfriend for almost 2 years now. We each have 2 children... mine are adults and have children of their own and live on their own.
His daughter is going to be 20 next month... his son is 17. They both live at home with him.
I moved in with them this past summer into his marital home where the children grew up (foreshadowing). The ex-wife had moved out about 1.5 years prior to my moving in and lives up the street with her boyfriend.
I will use this site's lingo for his kids (SS and SD) even though I'm not married to their dad (yet, though we're not even engaged yet but I see that's where we're headed).
Ok. So... SS... he's fine... pretty easy going and laid back though easily manipulated by SD. The SD though... OMG...
So, the reason the kids live with their dad and not their mom - as is typical - is because the mother spent the vast majority of their 20+ year marriage cheating on him. I guess she wanted to cheat full time, so she left her family. She's also a heavy drinker and dips in and out prescription and illegal drug abuse (DCF actually got involved last year because her son's friend saw it and told his mom and she reported her - she then rallied her kids and my boyfriend to lie on her behalf - real charmer this one).
Despite all of this, and despite she having been the one to leave AND despite their frequent annoyances with her "extraness"... they still seem to think she walks on water. Personally I think she terrorized all 3 of them (my boyfriend and their 2 kids)... all of them bent to her will (he still does sometimes - which I am slowly getting him to stop doing).
OK, so there's the wind-up... here's the pitch:
I have been nothing but nice and accommodating since I moved in... I have a very strong personality and I've been keeping my mouth in check despite repeated jabbing from SD. No one in my LIFE has ever gotten away with this kinda stuff with me before... but I love my BF and I don't want him to be unhappy.
PLUS - this is a temporary living arrangement. More on that later --
I could detect that SD was going to be a problem so in order to try to head that issue off at the path, I wrote her a long, beautiful letter thanking her for her "welcoming" hospitality (more like indifferent but I was trying to be nice), told her I wasn't interested in being her mom (this, I think is something I should only have to say to a 12 year old but - here we are), and that I only wanted to be her friend and acknowledging her having been the "woman" of the house since her mom left (this was a mistake on my BF's part because now she thinks she rules it).
Not 2 weeks later -- my BF and I are heading to the beach a half an hour away... as we are just arriving his phone rings and it's his ex-wife talking about SD is having a panic attack because we didn't invite her to the beach (he did, several times - not that I wanted her to come though)...he calls SD as we are pulling into a parking spot that we just paid $20 for. I get out of the car to give him some privacy and after what seemed like an eternity and all of our beach gear is out of the car, he gets out of the car looking like he just survived a war. He looked miserable. I knew the day was shot so I told him let's just go home so he can deal with the situation.
So he finally agrees and we put everything back in the car and drive 30 mins back home. As we are turning down his street, he ex-wife is coming from the direction of his house. We pull over and she tells that SD was having a breakdown and she has a laundry-list of shit about me that is upsetting her.
Luckily the ex-wife was on my side (or so she says, who knows).... I drop my BF at home and go to the local crappy beach to give them time to chat. HOURS go by and no word so I say, fuck it and head home... apparently they talked (and he actually had the nerve to take her to the music store - which pissed me off)...
So I got to hear the laundry list... Here's the shortened list: a) I have a ton of Wonder Woman stuff (including a tattoo). Wonder Woman is her and her mom's "thing" (waaaaaaahhhhh) - so she took down the one thing my BF put up in the house to make me feel at home - a framed WW painting... b) I leave hairs in the shower (how she can see them through all of HER hair she leaves in the shower is anyone's guess) c) I left the kitchen light on (Gasp!)... and other stupid, nonsensical bullshit.
So... after all that blows over... there were just other stupid passive aggressive crap going on... moving things I put somewhere... refusing to eat my food then bitching to her mother that there's no food in the house ... bitching that my cigarette smoke from OUTSIDE meandered through a window once despite me walking through clouds of skunk weed smoke in the house on nearly a daily basis...
Then she starts being really snappy and bitchy to her dad... I soon realize that all of this is because she had no boyfriend (shocking, I know) and she, god forbid, can't entertain herself... so she's taking it out on everyone around her (all of this reminds me of the many stories I heard about how cruel the ex-wife used to be - clearly that apple barely fell off that tree).
Anyway, back to the bitchy... I was getting near the end of my tolerance for her treating her father that way when she FINALLY found a boyfriend. All of a sudden she's cheery and friendly and OH SO sweet. Whatever, I'll take it...
However, whenever he's busy (like this past weekend)... her passive aggressive bullshit resurfaces... So this weekend she a) invited her MOTHER over to walk the dogs b) rearranged shit in the kitchen again - moving stuff I put where I put it and c) after I cooked dinner and it was literally sitting there hot on the stove she immediately started cooking rice and made oodles of noodles (I made pasta with meat sauce). I mean, that shit right there is such a slap in the face.
Anyway - In the spring he's putting his house on the market and we are either buying one together or renting until we find the house we want. I highly doubt she is going to want to come with us but if she does -- SHE IS GOING TO SEE THE REAL ME.... no fucking way this is gonna fly in my house. It didn't fly with my own kids, it damn sure isn't with someone else's.
Whew... that felt good to get out.
Now I'm gonna go read what you guys are dealing with.
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So - you haven't signed up
So - you haven't signed up for it yet, and don't be too quick to.
Your BF has a long way to go in setting boundaries on his daughter and his ex-wife, and when he does, all hell will break loose. He has been allowing them both to push him around for at least 20 years and they are not going to take kindly to him taking his balls out of their respective purses.
There will be Drama. SD will refuse to speak to him. BM will rant and rave on her behalf. Your BF will be filled with fear and anxiety that he's going to lose his precious daughter and your lives will be hell. You will be frustrated that he does not appear to have a fully formed spine. Don't think getting your own place will help this, it won't. SD will still be there, even if she doesn't move in, demanding the place HE GAVE HER, as "woman of the house."
If he gives in to this whole, "SD had a panic attack because you dared to go to the beach without her" crap, he's easily manipulated and wimpy when it comes to his daughter and ex.
Yes, read on here, you will see a lot about how this stuff plays out.
Yeah, he's definitely easy to manipulate
Thanks for the comment... I know this is all gonna come to a head at one point. I know that, for me, I'm giving a LOT of leeway because I'm a foreigner in this house but she will not walk all over me like she does to her father... what will change is that my tongue will no longer be restricted.
I love this man and I'm not losing him over this and I'm definitely strong enough to take the battle to them. The ex-wife has way too many skeletons in her closet so unless she wants that information to be public knowledge... she won't come to fore.
Thanks for commenting though! I don't expect this is going to be an easy ride. :)
Beware - you drive his kids
Beware - you drive his kids away and he's going to resent you. Men like this want their women, typically, to just put up with it so they don't lose their kids. You may be a strong woman, but I promise you, crazy people can outrun you every time. They don't care what they lose or who they hurt, which is an automatic advantage.
Very true
Very true
I can't believe you left on
I can't believe you left on the kitchen light.
That right there tells me soooooo much about what this poor girl is dealing with.
Once we traveled separately to see my husband's extended family -- yes, SD always had to be there when we were there. It ruined every trip. But this particular time, SD became irate because a girlfriend of mine got us tickets to see a show filmed and she wasn't invited.
This led to one of SD's historical massive meltdowns of all time. That meltdown has done irretrievable damage to our marriage -- I'll never forget it and I'll never forgive that he just let her scream names at me for 20 minutes and said nothing.
It's true you can battle SD and BM and whoever else is in the mix. But don't think it won't change your relationship with the guy, even if you get to keep the guy. Trust me, the guy doesn't look so great when the skids and BM are done with you and he did nothing to stop it.
I think it's great you guys
I think it's great you guys are going to be moving! Question though, why would a 20yr old SD be coming with instead of moving out on her own...? This is the PERFECT opportunity to get her out of there before she's 30 and still living with you.
Red Flags EVERYWHERE
my SD will be 20 next month as well. Chef (biodad) is still paying CS on her behalf despite the fact she dropped out of the first semester of community college and works PART TIME at a local pizza joint 5 minutes away from the mothership. I believe her plan is to live with the Girhippo (BM) forever.
I couldn’t have believed
I would ever post what I did yesterday. But it happened. No one could have convinced me then BF now DH (probably should drop the more D) would have done the things he did to me. I just would not have believed ANYONE!!!
But it happened. There is no way words can come close to describing the pain ....
Name of Post is ‘Not getting over the pain’
I hope you take the time to read it. There’s not much background because you can read almost any of the rants here and get the gist of the specifics.
My DH totally threw me under the bus for his SS 20. I am not recovered and forever changed. It’s not just my DH, it’s almost every single one on this site.
Evey.Single.One.
I remember reading up on the trials and hell of step anything. I blew it off. I was a strong woman, successful with a quick wit and good paying job.
I could handle this shit. Until I couldn’t.
I advise keeping your stuff yours, do not mix finances, definitely do not buy property together. But if you must, NEVER NEVER let SD move in. It’s gonna get bad enough without that added BS.
Keep your distance. And begin to try to brace yourself for the moment when you find out you are not #1.
5 year update
First... I doubt anyone will see this... but in case you do... here is the long and the short of it.
We stuck with it. My Boo is the most amazing partner and person I have ever met and I was damned if I was going to let anyone interfere with it.
He did, in fact, sell his house... the kids moved in with mom because they didn't want to move as far as we did (mostly for work but the happy side effect was that I knew they likely wouldn't want to come).... immediately things changed... they were friendlier with me... SD got a boyfriend and moved in with him. We all hung out a bunch of times and they all got to watch me and Boo interact.
BM has shown her ass so many times to her kids she's slowly driving them away and they are all older now their eyes are finally opening. It has been great for the past 2-3 years between me and SS and SD... to the fact where they ask my advice on stuff and ask their dad why work so well and how they can achieve that.
I honestly didn't think we'd get here and it probably took the better part of 2 years for me to lose anymosity for that shit I endured... I still don't FULLY AND COMPLETELY trust SD mainly because I'm the type to cut out toxic people from my life and I couldn't do that in this situation.... and now I'm glad I didn't.... my heart is nearly there though.
Good luck to you guys!
Also... we're engaged now! ;)