Having Stepkids every weekend
Hoping to receive some advice...we currently have our step kids every Thursday-saturday. Every single week. I’m really struggling with this. We both work full time and have a one year old together. I feel like we have no time just us. I’m exhausted and starting to resent my husband for many reasons bc of this. I have suggested every other weekend Friday through Sunday and then a dinner night every week. Is this so wrong of me? I told him in all reality he is actually going to have more quality time with them bc we would have a full day Saturday vs just nights and them leaving at noon Saturday. It makes a lot of sense to me and for our marriage. I feel like it’s always his way when it comes to my stepkids. They have their rooms, their space, their schedule, and then I just have to deal with it. Isn’t a marriage about compromise? He just thinks I’m awful and trying to take his time away from him, but in all reality he has no quality time now. It’s jidt evenings after school and then they leave at lunch Saturday.
You're not awful....
I can sympathise with you, you're most definitely not awful feeling the way you do so please don't burden yourself with that thought, I've felt the same without having my own child in the mix but after 7 years of every weekend when we both work full time I've just switched off. There have been times when I've not even been convinced it's about the actual spending of quality time with SD but more of the taking part in the best parent competition between my SO & BM.
BM is awful in my situation..
BM is awful in my situation...& I honestly feel like my husband tries to compensate for that. I understand why he does this, but he also needs to understand our marriage is important too.
You aren't wrong at all for
You aren't wrong at all for feeling this way at all. Couples deserve a break sometimes. I take it that you have tried to discuss this with your DH? Before my DH and me got married SS wanted to come every weekend and BM was all for it this was before BM took him to court. I told DH that if he wanted if he wanted to do that then he could do that without me because couples deserve alone time. I mean BM is getting alone time so we deserve the same. Why are you getting the skids every weekend?
Yes, I have tried. He told me
Yes, I have tried. He told me it's sick to him to suggest spending less time. When all realty, it is actually more quality time. He gets them Thursday night, has them Fridya night after school, & they leave at lunch on Satuday. It is really no quality time. If we switched off weekends, he would have ALL day Saturday to be able to go & do things, plus having them for dinner during the week. I do a lot for his kids, & it's awful to me that he categorizes me as being so bad.
That is totally not fair to
That is totally not fair to you and if it's no quality time for you DH I guess it's the matter of just having his kids around even though he is not spending time with them. Where is the BM?
She is local, lives about 15
She is local, lives about 15 minutes away...BUT she prefers to spend more time primping/pampering/worrying about who she is going to date next than anything else..which is honestly why I'm sure my husband is concerned with a switch of schedule. Which I do understand to an extent..
Your not wrong for wanting
Your not wrong for wanting some couple time but I can also understand their father wanting to see them every weekend. What if he told you that you could only see your one year old every other weekend? They are your stepkids but are his kids.
I went from every weekend to every day. SS15 never sees BM and only spends a night out once a month at most. So yes I sympathize but can also see your DH side of wanting them.
Thank you for your feedback.
Thank you for your feedback. I can also understand his request but don’t you think quality time is more important? Actually having time to go do things, just not them sleeping at the house?
Quality time is important.
Quality time is important. But you won't have alone time because you have a one year old.
Yes, but we also have more
Yes, but we also have more option to have alone time b/c we would be able to get a sitter for our son on a Friday night vs. only having Saturay evenings as an option which only takes time away form him.
This is a losing battle
Don't even suggest this, picture if you were divorced and you only got to spend a few days per week with your child and your new spouse was trying to take that away. Since your a mother, you can relate, just put yourself in his shoes. I have bios so I would not suggest this to my DH.
Actually, your schedule isn't that bad....they go home at noon on Saturday? Get a sitter for Saturday night and go out! Get a hotel room, it's actually great that they are leaving every Saturday, you're lucky they aren't there the whole weekend!
Yes they go home at noon on
Yes they go home at noon on Saturday. They come Thursday night and stay until Saturday at noon. It’s really a lot of rushing and no time spent together. This also contributes to why I think every other weekend would be better. They’d actually have quality time vs just a couple hours before bed. It’d also alleviate a lot of stress for us and our marriage. Thank you for your feedback.
Your schedule actually isn't
Your schedule actually isn't that bad. I went from being around my step kids only on the weekends to having them everyday. Their BM only sees them once a week for a few hours. They never spend the night out. It's very hard dealing with them on a daily basis and working full time. I love my stepkids but they are very energy draining. They also are not the best behaved sometimes. They throw tantums, are spoiled and not used to being told no, are used to getting what they want, they dont listen often, don't clean up after themselves after they eat even though they are plenty old enough, etc. We have no peace in our house unless it is after 9pm and then both of us are too tired for anything besides sleep. Even when step kids are in bed, they sometimes have problems sleeping, are up all night because they are sick or want daddy, etc. I would love to have your schedule honestly. It would be a breath of fresh air if I could go back to only having them on weekends again. I love them but they are very energy draining.
WOW, I can't imagine.
WOW, I can't imagine. Compared to your schedule-mine is a breeze. I give you a lot of credit.
Since you DH is so hyped at
Since you DH is so hyped at having his kids every weekend, I suggest you let him do EVERYTHING for them. You need to stop doing things for his kids since he's the one who wants them there. I know it's not easy but he doesn't make it easy for you either. You can't always be giving in on what he wants. You will end up being resentful, which I think you are already starting to feel.
So true!
So true!
Exactly this!! Stop being a
Exactly this!! Stop being a instant mother to these kids while they are there every weekend let your DH deal with his own kids and then he might just change his mind to every other weekend.
I actually have started to
I actually have started to pull back & it has led him to say I don't care about his kids, which is really not the case. He just doesn't make it easy when I am conforming to everything HE wants. We both have a lot on our plates & I am literally exhausted. Exhausted. I have no time to re-group & it's gotten to the point where I can't take it anymore. We have scheduled a meeting for a marriage counselor & I am hoping she can shed some light as well. We need to find a middle ground so we are all happy. I don't think he understands how much happier we would all be with a better schedule. I honestly feel it's best for everyone or I wouldn't suggest it. We have a child together now too, we need to make decisions together. It can't always be one sided, or we won't work out.
Please do not make your DH
Please do not make your DH make you feel guilty for wanting to have a break sometimes and making him take care of his own kids.
My mom is a step-parent &
My mom is a step-parent & mother also, same boat as I am in. Her husband did every other weekend & a weekly dinner night with his kids. He said he would never expect my mom to have his kids every week on top of her work schedule, having own children. He said the stress is too much & it wasn't good for anyone. My mom said it allowed her to re-fresh, re-group, & enjoy the weekends they did have together by planning things. This is exactly how I feel. It would be such a game changer for me.
Yep. All of this.
Yep. All of this.
We had an EOWE schedule with a weeknight dinner on the off weeks...but the skids lived close, so DH was often springing them on me. Getting them early, taking them back late, taking an extra day. He would also get upset and tell me that I 'didn't like his kids' if I wasn't jumping for joy about it like he was.
Thing is...I work MORE than my DH (by a lot) and I was doing all the cooking, cleaning up after skids, etc. I took a huge step back and quit cooking or even grocery shopping on skid weekends. At first, DH whined and was a bit shocked (Him: "What's for dinner?!?! What are we going to feed the KIDS?!?! Me: "I have no idea. This visit wasn't on the schedule and I didn't make any plans for it." or "I have no idea. I've had a super busy week and haven't gotten to the store...and they're your kids. I'll make our dinner. If they need something special you'll have to figure it out." Etc.)
A couple of things happened: 1.) the skids magically started eating what we were eating, and 2.) DH magically stopped taking so much extra time with them.
Win-win.
You have a one-year-old and you work. Of course you're overwhelmed and exhausted. Take care of yourself...do nothing for skids. You aren't an unpaid maid, cook, and babysitter.
Did you do the math for your
Did you do the math for your husband? He currently has 2 nights and half a day every week, or 4 nights and 1 day every 2 weeks. If you switched to every other weekend (say Friday night through Sunday at noon) plus an evening during the week, he'd have 2 nights (with sleepover), 2 nights (without sleepover, but heck, everyone's asleep!), and 1.5 days every 2 weeks. He'd still see his kids every week. The time is about the same, except that under the current schedule he has them for more time when they're asleep or no one is home.
How difficult would it be to change the schedule? Is this the court ordered schedule? Would he need to go back to court or can he work something out informally with the BM? (I guess I'm trying to figure out if the issue is really less time or if it's more hassle).
HOLD on
Having Saturday afternoon. Saturday night all day Sunday. Monday tues and we’d free
how is that no couples time. So you lose Friday night. I think you should stop and see how good you actually have it. There are a is a lot of SP who would have your secluded. The ones who have them 24/7. The one who have every weekend
It sounds like you are
It sounds like you are overwhelmed, working full time, having a 1 year old and skids every weekend is a very busy schedule. I get you wanting a weekend off here and there. Couple time would be nice on the weekends too but your situation really doesn't warrant that now with his visitation schedule. It's not fair to him to ask him to see his children every other weekend, and it's not fair to you to sacrifice every weekend and your couple time. Also changing a visitation schedule can be like moving a mountain and if BM was opposed it could cost thousands of dollars for nothing. Working w/in the paramaters of your situation there has to be some way to carve out couple time w/out changing his parenting time.
With your job is there any way you can work on the days skids are there with their father and be off a few days during the week? I agree that he should be doing the *work* while his kids are there. Cooking, cleaning, laundry etc. He's the parent so let him parent.
I understand how you feel BUT..
like other people on here have said ...your situation really isn't as bad as many others out there.
I have been with my partner for 3 yrs now, and we have his children with us EVERY Weekend. At 5pm on Friday we pick them up .. And then we drop them back at their BMs on Sunday nights, 6pm. It's tough going. In the beginning I just accepted that this is just how it has to be .. My partner works mon - fri and would be unable to do any school runs IF we were to have them in the week. The kids BM is lucky enough to have a job that enables her to work flexible hours around the kids. But this schedule is seriously taking its toll on me, and our relationship. I always crave just a small bit of quality time with just my partner... But rarely ever get it. Its sad but I start to feel resentment at times towards my SKIDS and my partner. When I firstly tried to explain my feelings to my partner and suggesting we have them every other weekend and perhaps taking them out during the week for tea instead ...he was against it. Told me he wanted to see his kids every weekend. Don't get me wrong.. I DO understand this. However if he wants to be in a relationship with me, and help him to raise his children, then he also needs to respect my feelings and try put himself in my shoes. With time ..and a few home truths put to him, my partner began to understand. We tried to communicate this new schedule idea to BM.. thinking that she might actually like to spend some weekends of quality time with her kids and having a flexible job to allow her to do so. But no. She just didn't like the idea of me and my partner having quality time together so out of pure bitterness she said no .. And tried to turn the tables and make us look bad for 'not wanting the kids'. The sad thing is, is that the kids have said they would love to have a weekend at their mum's every now and again. So it is them that are also suffering with this current schedule. We even suggested more recently that ONE weekend a month BM has kids. Every now and again she has agreed to have them for a weekend, but on her terms. We thought it might be better for the kids to have a set routine of staying at their mums for say the first weekend of each month. But she claims she can't have them because she works all weekends but we have caught her out to be lieing about this several times. It's very frustrating.
I would LOVE to be able to have at least half a weekend each weekend with just my partner. The schedule that you have could be so much worse!
It doesn't matter if other
It doesn't matter if other people think their schedule is "worse" than yours. It doesn't matter if other people don't mind "blah blah blah." This is your life. If it's not working for you, make some changes. So often we SMs keep accepting crappy situations that make us miserable because other people (even other SMs!) keep telling us how we SHOULD feel. Eff that ess. You feel how you do because this is YOUR LIFE. Take charge of your happiness, darlin. You deserve it.
I see your point, but there
I see your point, but there are two people in this relationship. It makes HIM happy to see his kids ever week. Having an almost full Sat and Sunday every week is pretty damn nice. Also, the kids deserve to have both parents. I get it, having full EOW would allow for more quality time but he may not care for that and then YOU will end up having your entire weekend caring for your baby AND the skids. And NO, if he had EOW instead of two night every week he'd be losing a lot of custody time. I think you guys could set your dates Sat night and maybe one Friday a month his kids go back to bm early or he gets a sitter for all 3 of the kids and you guys go out.
Personally I think quality time vs quantity is somewhat dumb when it comes to seeing your own kids. Most parents in intact nuclear homes don't have time for the kids much during the weeks but it's the fact that they seem them often that helps the bond. Many times when they go two weeks w/out seeing dad they spend most of the weekend adjusting or losing bad habits from bm's house only to repeat again in 2 weeks. If he's seeing them every week it's easier to disicpline them and be more 50/50 dad then just then visiting disney land EOW.
I don't think it's right that if they have had this schedule and he and the kids are happy that a new spouse comes in and trys to change the rules by eliminating time with his children. If you divorced, wouldn't you want him to be involved every week with your mutual child? Would your child not benefit from seeing his dad every week instead of every 2?
Your feelings are NORMAL and important and there is nothing wrong with what you would prefer, I mean we all know what it is to have stepkids, but yes, you are being kind of selfish to him and his kids. Plan a special Sat morning for all the kids where you all either sleep in or go out for breakfast or cook a full breakfast together. Or do a park visit and walk around. The kids will bond with your son as siblings also by seeing eachother more often. You married him and procreated with him with this schedule, I say live it with now. You guys can still make plans to go away together alone. You still have practically all weekend with just you and your mutual kid. Frame it knowing it could be ten times worse and maybe that will help?
I have a similar situation and I need advice
Hey guys I have a similar situation. My DH and I have been living together for 2 1/2 years now. We have a one year old together. While I was pregnant my stepkids would come over every single weekend from Friday after work and would leave until Sunday night. They would also come over on every single holiday, including any public holiday or any days off they had from school. It was driving me nuts as I am accustomed to silence and well just wanted more alone time with my DH. This never changed they were even there the weekend after I gave birth to our daughter which upset me very much. Nothing changed.. fast forward to now things have gotten worst, they not only come every weekend but are now at the house every single night, from Sunday to Sunday. Their mother apparently needs to go to the gym so she drops them off right after they are done with their online classes and pick them up back every night until 7:30pm. We are supposed to have them every other weekend, most weekend, even when not our turn their mother would leave them at Puebla place to sleep Atleast once. Now, both DH and I work full time. I have an extremely demanding job and when I get home at 5pm, I need to care for my one year old. With my step kids over every single day I feel I’m losing it. What bothers me most is that I can’t come home to a quiet peaceful place as they are always there making a whole lot of noise and I can’t put my baby to sleep early until they leave. We recently moved to a “tiny home” , super small, and I’m starting to feel overwhelmed woh not having a peaceful haven and space to unwind. I have brought it to my DH’s attention on more than one occasion and it always turns into an argument, my approach isn’t the best either but I’m beyond frustrated and don’t know where to go or what to do to get some quiet time. :(
If you are the NCP household
If you are the NCP household the answer to EWE is ............ NO! THe one advantage that the NCP has is that they can refuse visitatio with impunity. Even with a CO an NCP cannot be forced to take their prior relationship kid.
So... stop. Your SO needs to grow a pair and invoke boundaries on visitation that protects his marriage and his new family.
If i were an NCP my stance would be that I pay the CP to care for and raise my kids so that I can have a life beyond my former failed family. Yes I would have visitation with my prior failed family progeny, but it would be on a schedule that allowed me to have a life beyond my past.
Just my thoughts of course.
No to EWE. With the schedule you currently have, EO Saturday I would forego. Your SO has to understand that his marriage and his baby motivate this. Your family needs every other weekend without SKids.
But why Rags? If this is a
But why Rags? If this is a schedule he already had in place, IMO it's unfair to ask to change it. Or, it may not be unfair to ask it, there's no harm in asking-but if he is against it, it should be dropped.
I know you say a NCP can't be forced to take his time, but IMO it's crap if they don't. If this is their arrangment through CO then the CS, etc is based on him having those days every month. It's a horrible parent that consistently declines to take their time. IMO HE needs to grow a pair and invoke boundaries on his wife is she is demanding he stop the visits he already had in place. It isn't right to change it for a 'new family' -his kids are still HIS family and just as valuable.
He may have a former failed MARRIAGE but it's horible to call his kids a 'failed family'. WTH? They obviously can still have a life with that schedule. It's not even a full weekend, it's only half of Saturday.
It's odd that you think his current kid and family needs should come above his need to be a parent to ALL His children (his family also). He has 22 days/nights out of 30 for his currently family, they should be able to make that work and make his current family a priority without giving his time up with his children from his first relationship.
A big problem in todays world is with people that think like you, that the past kids are considered a 'failed family' and thereforth dad moves on with 'new' family and leaves his other kids abandoned to make new wife/himself happy. All his children deserve a present and involved dad. It's not their fault their parents divorced. Some men (like my ex) took the approach that to punish me for daring to divorce his abusive as* was to withdraw and detach himself from his sons. Pathetic and disgusting and you do lifetime damage to your children. Then again, I think split parenting with no CS or minimum based on finances is likely a lot more fair to all parties and probably best for the kids. My ex was never interested in that, I asked him during the divorce process. I mean he didn't even want his visitation, let alone be a parent half of the time.
In the situation of a local
In the situation of a local visitation schedule I firmly believe that the NCP has to preserve their opportunity to have a life beyond the parenting of their non-resident children. If I were a local visitation schedule NCP I would not allow my X to have every weekend kid free regardless of what a CO or visitation schedule may say. I would give myself, my mate, and any new kids my dedication not only on the Skid free weekdays, but also half of the weekends.
My prior relationship children would integrate into my life, home, and family on a reasonable schedule.
Fortunately for most, local visitation schedules are not EWE schedules. The half weekend thing is interesting, but... my young children should have dad on a Saturday, as well. So, EOWE it would be. It just makes sense and is logical.
A mate can have expectations of their partner, even if that partner has children from a prior relationship. I would not demand that my mate not see their prior relationship children, but... I for damned sure would force a reasonable visitation schedule that wold include skids but also preserve dedicated time for me and any children my mate and I shared. Particularly if my mate was the NCP in their prior failed family CO. Regardless of what their routine and kid time was before the relationship with me. I would discuss it, we could come up with an agreed new schedule, but... It would include dedicated and regular Skid free time that met my requirements and made sure that my mate had Skid free time ... on weekends, on rotatingr holidays, etc.....
While a new family and children may not take priority over the progeny of an earlier failed family, neither do the progeny of that earlier family take precedence over the new family. Time being limited, the NCP has to work it out for everyone.
In the case of the CP, they get their own children per the schedule or as the NCP chooses to skip a visitation. So, in an EWE situation the CP learns to deal with EOWE. They have no choice if the NCP declines half of their EWE visitation schedule.
IMHO of course.
As the CSP, we had SS all but 7 weeks per year, and for a number of years of the 16+ years we lived under the CO they declined visitation for a year of more. We were happy to have the Skid. It took a while, but we also learned to enjoy our time dedicated to just us when he was in SpermLand on SpermClan visitation. When they refused visitation, we gladly kept him. That is what CPs, at least quality CPs, do.
I never said that prior relationship kids are failed family. Though they are the product of a failed family. Hence, failed family progeny. They may very well be an integral part of a very successful family when their quality parent creates one with a new mate. Fortunately there are relatively few kids that are burdened with even one less than quality parent, much less two less than quality parents so... even in blended family situations, they may very well experience a successful family rather than having only the experience of the failed family that their parents created.
Agreed!
What you are saying will go over some heads. But it's ok.. everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I agree fully and could not put it any better.
It's only 2 and a half days a
It's only 2 and a half days a week, which seems fair. I agree you should let him do the bulk of the parenting if your overwhelmed. It shouldn't matter what BM is doing when you guys have kids. I have step kids, bio kids, my DH is SD to my son I had before, so I can see it from both angles.
As others have said, you don
As others have said, you don't have them as much as a lot on here. My skids have been here 80% of the time and now they don't even go to their dads. BM refuses to say they should go to give me a break as they don't want to and over 18.
Anyway. Your situation is subjective. You both need to sit down and talk properly, you are NOT being unreasonable to have every other weekend off. Everyone gets a bit of time. Hell, I love it when my own kids aren't here. It also gives BM a weekend to herself.
If your husband doesn't agree then you should say ' I'm out, I'm not cooking or cleaning up after them and I'll join you when I feel like it.' He has a one year old who he also needs to spend time with so every other weekend he can have step kids and his own child. Let's see how he deals with that.
I think there is just a lot of expectations that step parents should just put up and shut up otherwise it's the whole 'you knew I had kids' & 'You don't like nor do enough with my kids'
These sentences are designed to deflect from your issues and turn the discussion into something else. If he won't compromise then you need to lay out clear boundaries as to what you are willing to do.
Not cooking for them when they are there is step one. They can wait till the dad comes home exhausted and has to sort them out, cook, clean up after them and wash clothes. He'll soon stop taking you for granted.
I've been a mug for far too long when it comes to all this stuff, should have done it a long time ago. I now pass anything to do with my partners kids into her. She's just asked me to get sk1 to call who I no longer communicate with. I've said no, if he's not answering his phone or his phone is dead.....That ain't my problem. I'm loving batting everything into her court now, my life is far less stressful.
Good luck.
Thursday after school thru
Thursday after school thru Saturday at noon is NOT a lot of time to have the skids. And as far as quality time goes, you have ALL day starting at noon Saturday, all day Sunday, Mon, Tues & Wed with no skids. If the roles were reversed, would you consider that a LOT of time to spend with your children if they lived with the other parent? If having a full weekend off is the issue I would suggest Wed-Sun alternating weeks and a midweek dinner on the off week. That way he isn't giving up any time and will get a full 5 days every 2 weeks with his kids and you get your time off that you crave. But TBH - you can't use the excuse that you have no time for your family because the kids are there every week if they are gone by Saturday at noon.
You are right. Period.
See, this is the BS that I don't think anyone sees about stepparents, especially if stepparent also has their own biokids. You, dear, are not getting a break ever and you are entitled to that. Especially seeing as you have a 1-year-old, you're not ever getting a break anyway. You have a full-time career, are a new mom, and have all the kids every weekend (one day includes a Friday which is still a work day) and this is a recipe for burnout. If it were me, at some point, I'd just take my kid and leave the marriage, but I'm not advising you do that. I'm just pointing out how some of us have our breaking point and that would be mine.
Hold your ground. You're entitled to some days of just you, DH, and your child as a family unit, no other obligations. You're not asking to exclude them, you're just trying to find a schedule that works for everyone. Every other weekend plus a weekly dinner, I see that you are trying to prevent the long breaks in between when DH and SKs see each other. Remind him too this is temporary. It will be less work to have them when your child is older and isn't as dependent on you and schedules will change again. Yes, it takes time, but you literally have an infant and you must be exhausted. I think some people are forgetting that you also work full time so under this scenario, you get 1 day off a week. I'd rather have 2 days every other week.
If it still doesn't work, then don't parent his children on the days they are there if they are there every weekend. You're a BM too with an infant who has way more needs. Book mommy and me time somewhere and let him deal with it.
You are right. Period.
See, this is the BS that I don't think anyone sees about stepparents, especially if stepparent also has their own biokids. You, dear, are not getting a break ever and you are entitled to that. Especially seeing as you have a 1-year-old, you're not ever getting a break anyway. You have a full-time career, are a new mom, and have all the kids every weekend (one day includes a Friday which is still a work day) and this is a recipe for burnout. If it were me, at some point, I'd just take my kid and leave the marriage, but I'm not advising you do that. I'm just pointing out how some of us have our breaking point and that would be mine.
Hold your ground. You're entitled to some days of just you, DH, and your child as a family unit, no other obligations. You're not asking to exclude them, you're just trying to find a schedule that works for everyone. Every other weekend plus a weekly dinner, I see that you are trying to prevent the long breaks in between when DH and SKs see each other. Remind him too this is temporary. It will be less work to have them when your child is older and isn't as dependent on you and schedules will change again. Yes, it takes time, but you literally have an infant and you must be exhausted. I think some people are forgetting that you also work full time so under this scenario, you get 1 day off a week. I'd rather have 2 days every other week.
If it still doesn't work, then don't parent his children on the days they are there if they are there every weekend. You're a BM too with an infant who has way more needs. Book mommy and me time somewhere and let him deal with it. If I were him, I'd see the benefit of having Friday-Sunday every other weekend because it's more free time to spend with them vs working Thursday, Friday, and having them go home Saturday when you finally get the time off to actually spend with the skids.
Still relevant 3 years later!
I read the post and comments and then realised this was from 3 years and 2 months ago.
And this topic is STILL as relevant today as it was 3 years and 2 months ago.
I wonder how the OP is doing now with a 3-year old? How did the marriage counseling go? Did the schedule change? Did things get better or easier?????