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Thinking of a vacation 'clause' (you don't come then you don't get to go)

DASKRA's picture

We have been having issues with SD11 and SD12 not wanting to come here or stay here when there is nothing FUN going on. They want to be here when we have plans for stuff but during the week when we both work they don’t want to be here because it’s boring at home alone.
OK first off, we don’t allow them to go outside when we are not there. I only work 3 days a week. One or two of those days that I work we usually have a friend/family member come and sit with the kids or take them to our pool for a little while. However when SD11 has softball she is not allowed to go outside at all because it’s been a heat index of 110, and we don’t want her exhausted for her games. This is also the request of her coach. I wasn’t allowed to go outside on my game days either. These kids have more CRAP to do then I even know what to do with. They have an Xbox Connect, hundreds of movies, games, crafts. You name it. They don’t get up until 11 or 12 anyways and SO is usually home between 3-5 PM. They are only awake for a few hours before he gets there. There is food already prepared for them or things they know how to make without using the stove.

I mentioned to SO that I feel like they use us. I feel like they only want to be here when we are going to “spend” money or do fun things but when we don’t they don’t want to be here. There have been times where we decided to go on strike and not “do” ANYTHING or “spend” any money at all on them. I even to make my point would take everyone out shopping or so they thought and I or SO were the only ones who got anything. I know that there is “someone specific” out there that thinks we are trying to BUY them, but that is not the case at all. We do have money and we do like to do things. The kids are not sent with ANYTHING when they come here so we do have to buy clothes and as kids grow it’s getting to be a ongoing issue with changing sizes all the time. I have stopped buying SD8 anything new because she has clothes in her closet that she picked out that still have tags on them. She always wears the same crap when she is here. She also is not very grateful about the stuff she does get. She acts entitled so I am done and she knows that and also knows why.

I talked to SO and as we are planning on taking a family vacation during August and the kids know all about it and are looking forward to it, I am thinking of implementing a “clause” into being able to go. SD12 did not come to see us at all last summer as she was ‘mad’ at SO, we didn’t know what her plans were week to week and I didn’t want anyone to feel left out so we never went anywhere last year. I told the kids that this year we were going to be making plans and we would let their BM’s know when we would be going and if you here that are great but if you’re not we are still going to go this year. To prevent SD12 from pulling this same crap on us this year and SD11 starting to do the same since they both got caught lying to BM about SO they don’t want to come. Well if you’re not here for half the summer as the Court order states then you’re not going to go with us on this family vacation because you chose to not be a part of this family. I am considering sitting them all down and telling them the way it is. SO has also talked about making SD12 come here for half the summer as the CO states so. BM will try to pull the “she is old enough to make her own choices” Well in our states visitation is not an OPTION for them to choose. She also has let SD12 lie to SO and say or pretend she is sick and can’t go. I am to the point where if she doesn’t want to be here then that is fine. Then leave us all alone and quite doing this crap your pulling over everyone. When you decide you want a relationship with your father or your sisters then let us know.

SO is afraid that the SD’s will go back to BM and tell them the ‘clause’. Well my thought is LET THEM. What does that have to do with anything that BM can control? It’s our vacation and our money we are spending and if we don’t think you deserve to go then you can’t make us take you along.

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stepmisery's picture

Your SO should enforce visitation and not allow 11 and 12yo girls to dictate it to him. If they don't want to come, too bad so sad. They need to come anyway and not have the power to dismiss their father whenever it suits them. Now of course, they are getting to ages where school activities like sports and band have summer camps but something like that is a lot different reason than "it's boring and I don't want to." Guess what? Most of summer vac IS boring.

All are the kids basically on the same CO? What a nightmare, coordinating with four mothers for one week in common for all the kids.

Personally, I wouldn't make it a clause - because with reward/punishment that's offering a choice. The child can either do what is asked and receive the reward or the punishment, except if they don't care about the reward and can take the punishment, then the child can do exactly as the child pleases.

Rather than implement the clause, enforce visitation.

12yrstepmonster's picture

We are right with you. Visitation is a hard thing to enforce. I am so sick of hearing how boring my house is. Ss hasn't come in 6 months. We are now doing things without skids and not feeling guilty.

We have talked about a vacation, haven't done it yet.

I say put the clause into effect!

Notmyownlife's picture

I had to do it with my son,

His dad lives 8 miles from me, we dont have a CO, its a standing rule that during the school year my son stays at my house during the week since he gets off and ont he bus here and he goes to his dads during the weekends, unless his dad wants to come get him and take him to school the next day.

During the summer it switches, hes at his dads all week because he works for his dad and then my house onthe weekends, I dont know if a lot of it is because hes a teenage boy and extremely close to his dad or what but lately hes been blowing me off, he wants to stay at his dads, I usually dont mind unless we have something as a family planned, Most of the time his dad does stuff my son misses out on if hes not with his dad ont he weekends,,,,,,

anyway lately my son is also refusing to comehome unless we have somthing going on, and since we are so broke and no money to do anything he wants to stay at his dads,,,,,,,so i dont know if this i a case of "I will go where the fun is" or just him really wanting t be with his dad

lac925's picture

Sounds like a good plan, and it's very fair. FAMILY outings are for FAMILIES - and FAMLIES aren't only a part time thing. We've had this same situation with FDH's SD11 (long story short, she was already one month old when BM and FDH got together, but she's always regarded him as her father until recently). She was deemed "mature enough (yeah right!) to make her own decision about coming over", so she opted to NOT come over anymore (I'm pretty sure it was because she needed a break from her own siblings!). She only came over when it was her birthday or Christmas, but other than that, forget it. So finally, FDH got fed up and told her and BM to not even bother. So not only is she not getting presents anymore, but he's in the process of dropping her support altogether. We know she's not getting it - she lives with her grandfather, who doesn't get along with her mother - BM is basically collecting CS for 3 kids instead of just 2 :O Now the other 2 are saying they don't want to come over cuz it's "boring" etc. Well, like yourself, FDH told them that if they don't come over, they don't get to do all the fun summer stuff we're planning to do - we'll just do it with OUR 2 boys. Bottom line, stick to your clause. BM can't do anything. SHE's the one enabling the whole thing to begin with.

DASKRA's picture

I think I have decided to try a medication between SO and SD12 first. Then if that doesn't work then she has two options, we either have the courts inforce the CO, which could result in BM getting into trouble for not following or enforcing CO since she is not a teenager yet and of age by our courts to decide Or she is not going to be apart of the family and will not get to participate in family activities with the rest of us.