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SO moved out but future SD STILL controls his every move!

dgb's picture

SO moved out with his daughter16 and son20 last Saturday and Sunday. He essentially put a stop to any bill he contributed to paying while they lived in my house. I'm glad they're out, but SO and I are still trying to have a relationship. Things got REALLY ugly between SD and I while she and her brother were packing everything to move. During SO and my argument, SD thought she was going to get in the middle of it and rescue her dad. I told her to "F--- Off!" I am SO sick of the disrespect and hatefulness of his kids that I blew! My cell phone was on SO's family plan to save money. He threatened that I wouldn't have a phone anymore, so I went and got the phone and hurled it at him his car. I said, "Here's your d--- phone!" "I've already told you that I'm not for sale!
The reason they moved out was because all we did was fight about the kids. But now all I hear about is the apartment and what daughter did over and over. He said he thinks we should focus on our kids for a couple of weeks since they are really divided now. I agree, but when I am with him it's all about the sweet and considerate things daughter did. I HATE HIS F'ING DAUGHTER AND DON'T WANT TO HEAR ABOUT HER DAY PLAY BY PLAY! They even have him guilted into buying them all new furniture, new tv's, kitchen stuff, you name it. Well, SO's money is running low now until he gets paid again. He even gave daughter his bed and bought son an airbed, and dad is sleeping on an airbed that keeps going flat several times a night. Now isn't that a good daddy?
I feel like it's STILL not about us, and am just in a sad mood. I've been this way for three days. Yes, I've seen him two of those three days, but it feels like I'm with a stranger. What's up with that?

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Anon2009's picture

I know this may not be what you want to hear but I think you should reconsider being in a relationship with this guy. He obviously doesn't know how to parent, and doesn't make his kids treat you respectfully.

3familiesIn1's picture

How would he take to be 'reminded' that they are moved out because of his kids and that you would prefer to table the kids being a topic of conversation until you and he have had the time to heal and start putting your relationship back together.

Meaning, shut up about your damn kids, I dont want to hear about them, this is supposed to be 'us' time.

dgb's picture

It's funny though, the other night I was talking to him on the phone and his daughter came into is room, unannounced of course, and asked him who he was talking to. Like it is ANY of her business and has a right to know! He told her in an ugly tone that it was none of her business! I also hear him telling his kids to pick up this, clean your wiskers out of my sink, this isn't where that goes, your underwear do not belong on my bathroom floor....etc... So I guess it is hurting my feelings even more that he IS making them clean up after themselves there, but wouldn't when they lived with me. I feel dumped on!

3familiesIn1's picture

I can understand that. DH does the same - I noticed when I traveled that since he was faced head on with the skids directly he did more than when I am home.

i think its more he is just pissed off and maybe taking it out them - which seems like he is parenting?!?!

dgb's picture

He DOES miss me. But I still feel like he's trying to be Super Dad to his kids and just existing with me.

dgb's picture

This weekend should be interesting. He's spending Saturday fixing up the apartment. I really don't even want to see him Saturday night because it's going to be the same conversation about the apartment and his daughter. I told him last night that I didn't want to talk about the apartment anymore because it was all just sad. His response? It is what it is, babe. It will get better. I haven't even gone to see where the apartment is.

herewegoagain's picture

Sorry sweetie, it sucks big time. But you know what? If his kids are that manipulative, there is nothing you can really do. The only thing you can really do is focus on you and let go of him and the craziness surrounding him. If you do that, then the kids will be themselves. Only then, can your partner realize what aholes he has raised and maybe tell them to take a hike and you can have a relationship. But if you continue to "try to have a relationship with him" and THEY know it, guess what? They'll be sweet and nice and all that other stuff to make YOU look bad. You really have to disconnect here completely. You can leave the door open and tell him you do not plan on dating others, etc and are willing to work things out, but just not NOW. That should give those idiots some time to show their true colors and for him to wake up. If it doesn't happen, then you will be better off..while they are doing what they are doing, no relationship will make it because he'll still think of them as the good guys.

herewegoagain's picture

The issue with dating others? I do believe that in order to not bring more crap into a new relationship, we should spend some time alone without involving others. It just really complicates things. We really don't learn anything from our failed relationships unless we spend the time afterwards to get to know ourselves, what went wrong, etc...

Disneyfan's picture

Let him go.

You two aren't on the same page as far as parenting go. Giving his daughter his bed until he can purchase a new one was a good thing. I think most parents would have done the same.

Take time to get over him. Focus on you and your sons. Once you start dating, find someone who shares your parenting style.

momagainfor4's picture

maybe some space would be good right now. You sound like you need to focus on you and your path for a bit. I don't doubt that you care for him but maybe he needs to see that he cares and needs and wants you in his life.

I think you need to do something with this time that you have to yourself all of a sudden! Take a class around town, get your toes done, spend time with your son doing things for the two of you. Or maybe volunteer your extra time to a worthy cause. This might take your mind off of the pain and stuff that you're feeling.

Also, you should be valued in a relationship. I don't feel you are being valued. You deserve it and you are worth it. I love my kids. I love my bf. I love my family and my friends but on all fronts I still should be valued for what I bring to the relationship.
Value and respect. You deserve this. Smile

Delilah's picture

Its really difficult when things like this happen, however your SO needs to make an effort in order to continue and heal this relationship too. It should not only be you.

I realise right now you are hurting and are missing him, the fact it seems any time or conversations you are having together is dominated by his feelings, his children, his apartment is only making you feel more isolated and distant from him as you too need reassurance through action not only words. You are not getting this atm.

Trouble in when you find yourself in that position there is a risk your need comes across as clinginess. Worse still when actually your partner actually DOES need to pull their socks up and make an effort but they are too engrossed in whatever drama is going on with their toxic kids/ex/family, as they can get crabby that they have to make the time and energy to reassure and support you so the opposite occurs. You push them away. Been there, done that. Its a vicious cycle.

You know what men find attractive? Strong, confident women. You in all probablity dont feel like that at all. I can sense your vulnerability and nerves from across the ocean. However fake it until you make it.

YOU need a confidence boost and your SO needs a reality check to jolt him from his selfish reverie. So here is the plan I am suggesting.

Go out and get your hair done. Cliche? Perhaps, however beautiful flowing locks helps invoke the inner goddess and draws on your internal self esteem. Whip out some of your favoured, attractive clothing and put on your face. Distract yourself with some fun female lunches, shoppin, theatre. Whatever floats your boat, as well as reminding yourself what you love most about having your space back at home. For example, me? I adore long hot luxurious soaks with oils, a good book, banging music and a glass of cool wine. Being able to watch whatever I want on the box in my PJ's while it is raining and knowing that if I move from my spot both my seat and my programme will remain unmeddled with (now you cant say that when selfish teens are abound)! Make damn sure your SO knows you are filling your time with fun stuff, even if you have an emotional wobble while doing this stuff do not tell him this. Take some pictures and message them over your phone to him with a friendly "Hi miss you!" SHOW him what he is missing while he is wallowing in the self inflicted self pity.

Then when you do see him/speak to him make damn sure you do not enable those woe is me conversations to continue. Lets strip it down for what it is. Your OH would NOT be living in an inadequately furnished, expensive hole of an apartment with two parasitic rude inconsiderate teens if he had 1) parented them appropriately 2) manage the entire situation with sense 3) insisted on respect for you, your home and your boys. He has created this situation and I have zero sympathy or time to pick over the bones of how awful it is for him. Either he changes things or he deals, whatever I wouldnt want to hear about it.

So when he starts on about it interupt and say "thats too bad (or something equally inane that does NOT sympathise with or support his self pity...remember he has brought it on his own head, dont continue to feed the beast) so do you fancy doing x today..."

If he point blank insists on talking about it or challenges you on your polite disinterest then say "you have already told me this...or something similar." Keep changing the subject and DO NOT tell him to shut the F up about your daughter as that will give him an excuse to be all over you like the bubonic plague. If he moans about sd then I would sweetly and with fake innocence remind him that he has been saying how wonderful princess has been lately...then change the subject.

They are HIS problems now and that is why he is actually daring to tell them what to do. When he does it, its acceptable however it was another thing when YOU did it. As he perceived it as a criticism of him. He is also having to deal with the management and mechanics of running a home autonomous from you, so he is in sole responsibility now. If his kids are being unhelpful, as they usually are, now HE is the one having to deal with the consequences of this not you anymore. Hence why he is being more proactive. Really hard to stomach but I would be sitting and gleefully watching the fireworks as its going to get old for him having to do this. The blowing smoke up sd's arse about how perfect she is being is just that, smoke. No substance. He is trying to prove her worth to you and talk himself into believing it. Again you dont need to know nor care how awful or wonderful she is being, so long as she doesnt affect you. Let him carry on with the car crash he is creating, as thats the only way he will learn!

dgb's picture

Last weekend SO and his kids spent Saturday fixing up the apartment and SHOPPING with his daughter and one of her friends. He is buying both kids bedroom suits, a new couch for the living room, new end tables, new lamps for the tables, a new dinnet, new dishes, new glassware, new pictures for the walls, etc..... CAN YOU IMAGINE HOW THAT MAKES ME FEEL WHEN I'M SPENDING MY WEEKEND CLEANING UP ALL THE SHIT HIS KIDS MADE A MESS OF IN MY HOUSE? Yesterday he wanted me to go shopping with him to pick out a bedroom suit that will be our bedroom suit eventually. Being Mother's Day, he told me that we would leave around 10:00-11:00 and go get breakfast. I didn't hear from him and it was 11:00. No, I didn't get ready to go. I called him and he was STILL in bed asleep. He said they were up late trying to get the pictures hung and then he couldn't sleep because I wasn't there, so he watched a movie and fell asleep around 4:00. At 1:00 he was STILL asleep! I was SO PISSED! Like I didn't have other things I needed to do than wait around on HIS time table! We finally left at 3:00! My boys were wanting to come over that night for Mother's Day, but where were we? WALMART!!! My son called me on SO's phone and asked me where I was. I told him and said I couldn't do dinner because my cookware has disappeared from the storage unit.

Son asked me what was wrong. He could tell in my voice that I was just very flat in my tone and sounded like I was upset. I assured him that I wasn't upset with him or my other son. He still kept pressing the issue and I just kept repeating the same thing.

At Walmart, when we were checking out, the cashier asked if our things were together. He said no! I was FLOORED! I had $30 worth of stuff in the cart. He can spend money going out to eat every meal, but suddenly can't pay for $30 worth of stuff?

I am a teacher, and even with a Master's Degree and fourteen years of teaching experience, we don't make SQUAT!! I have two sons, 19 and 17. One's taking classes at a community college for two years and then transfering to a university. He still lives at home and works. My ex hasn't paid child support in over a year and a half. So, in essence, ex has ruined my credit report and forced me to borrow money from family members. Without his money, I have $200 left to pay for groceries and whatever else after bills have been paid. SO knows this and couldn't pay for $30 worth of stuff? He makes anywhere from $4000 to $6000 a month! Needless to say, the trip home from Wally World was very silent. He brought my TWO bags in and put things away while I put oil in my car. Then he does his reassuring 'everything's going to be ok'speech. I was glad he left.

You know, women are attracted to a man emotionally as well as physically. How we are treated and whether or not we are respected can turn us totally against whoever it is in an instant. That is where I feel like I am right now. I'm hurt, I'm disappointed, and upset in general because they are partying and I feel like I'm being 'fitted in'.

Oh, and yes, daughter is being SO HELPFUL and WONDERFUL. Why shouldn't she be? She's getting everything completely new that she wants. Oh, and we're also back to her having a friend over ALL WEEKEND. He hasn't told her no once. I'm going to try not to laugh out loud when she turns up pregnant.

Helena.Handbasket's picture

Sounds like he is still treating you poorly and you are walking right in to it.

Institute a no contact rule for two weeks. I bet you see things differently. TWO WEEKS.

3familiesIn1's picture

Is it possible he is trying to 'punish' you by refusing to offer you any funds now. Sort of like, you kicked me out so now you are on your own type of - tyring to teach you a lesson?!?!?

You don't want me you can't have my money??

You don't have a lot of funds these days - so don't buy anything. Time to figure out want and need. Don't put yourself into situations where you are expecting him to pay unless you have the funds to pay your way now.....

When I divorced my XH - I had to bear down and reduce reduce reduce. Your income is now just yours - budget accordingly. Its going to hurt to adjust your lifestyle at first.

I had no living room or kitchen furniture for 9 months after my XH left - he took everything, including the kids beds. I got them mattresses - on the floor first then bedsets later. We just used what we had - nothing new for almost 3 years total until all the debt was paid off.

Cable TV was the first thing to go too - over the air has FOX and ABC - good enough. Just saying, you need to budget within YOUR income only now.

dgb's picture

Yes, I think he is trying to punish me by doing everything for his kids and not me. He has assured me that he's not going to leave me 'high and dry' when it comes to bills. So far, that's exactly what it seems like he's doing. He's got too much control right now, and I don't like it! As far as cutting back, I don't have a cell anymore, I switched to cable because it was cheaper to bundle my home phone, internet, and tv. I have a college student, and have to have internet access. Honestly, there is NOTHING I can cut back on. SO had my cell turned off because he was "trying to cut back on everything he could because he wasn't expecting to move so quickly". Promises it wasn't done to hurt me and will get me another one at the first of next month. I don't want him to buy me another cell phone!

3familiesIn1's picture

Understood. Replan, rebudget, start digging yourself out.

Sometimes they have cheap paint at the hardware store for folks who ordered a color then didn't come pick it up - you can get it half price. I would 'personalize' the old skid area by doing some painting and yardsaling for redecoration - they are furnishing, you can too (on a budget of course) Make their space your space again - just like they are - not to mention it will keep you busy and away from answering any phones so you won't be on becon call.

dgb's picture

That's my plan, but first I have to clean all of the dirt and grime off of everything. When they moved out my son said, "How can we get their smell out of here? I don't even want their SMELL in here!"

dgb's picture

We went to dinner Friday night and afterwards he asked me if I wanted to go see the apartment. He said son had taken daughter and her friend out to eat so they wouldn't be there. See! He KNOWS how uncomfortable it will be for me to even have to be around his kids. I told him I'd just see it some other time. Why would I want to see his newly furnished apartment when I'm still trying to clean up all the crap (washing my walls included)his kids left in mine when they trashed it? GET A CLUE!!!

Disneyfan's picture

Why are you holding on to this man? It really sounds like you are looking for him to help support you.

Let's be honest, most people aren't willing to support two homes. Living together didn't work, so he moved out. He's supporting his home. You have to do the same. If your ex isn't paying CS, taking him back to court.

Find ways to increase your income. Teach summer school. Work as a tutor~ Kumon and other tutoring centers are always looking for teachers for the evenings and weekends. Do not depend on or expect this man to help you.

dgb's picture

I've managed to avoid possibly even speaking with him today because my phone blew today and I have to get another one. I explained that it would have to charge before I could use it. Also, I have the cable guy coming back to figure out what he did wrong with my Wi-Fi Saturday after spending 6 hours at my house!

SO is supposed to start going back to the gym tomorrow, but I've been going after I get out of school. Normally, I wait and go when he gets off work and meet him there. I think I will stay on my own schedule because I don't want to have to deal with his son and daughter while I'm there. If he wants to see me then he'll have to make time to see me!

I'm not looking at our future anymore because I have too much resentment and hurt feelings to trust anything past today. I wasn't very helpful in looking for bedroom furniture yesterday. I just didn't really feel like it would ever be mine anyway, so why should I pick out great furniture? He has no taste whatsoever!

dgb's picture

SO is getting back to the gym tonight. His son works with him and they won't be able to get to the gym until around 5:45. Normally, his daughter rides with me to the gym. That won't be happening! I plan on going to the gym right after school, and should be finished with weight training and in the middle of cardio by the time SO arrives. SO and I USED TO work out together, but the last few months have been filled with his son working out with him. I don't see any reason to change a schedule that makes my life easier just to accommodate his schedule. We are in two separate houses with two separate lives. I'm going to live mine as I please. If he wants to catch up and follow along, then he will. If not, oh well! Wink