UGH! Why won’t SS8 stop lying?

He has been lying on a continual basis over the stupidest things! This has been an ongoing issue. What’s worse is that his lies make NO SENSE what-so-ever!

The Skids (SS8 & SD7) are staying for a few days with MIL…she called me yesterday to see if he could really read an entire book in less than an hour…I got on the phone with him & I gave him chance after chance to fess up & he chose to continue lying…until I reminded him of his biggest baddest lie that he was busted in before he even got started (2 months ago…another impossible story out of the kids mouth over broken glasses). I reminded him that just because something comes out of his mouth that does not make it humanely possible…finally after lying 7 times, he tells me that no, he did not read 177 pages in under an hour…UGH!!! Poor MIL …she was getting ready to take them to church so she was going to make him do the kneeling prayer asking for forgiveness for being a fibber. MIL was upset about it but we ended up having a laugh because his lie was THAT stupid!

I’m honestly at a loss…we have tried so many things…
Writing sentences-NOTHING
Loss of electronics-NOTHING
Time in his room-NOTHING
Muscle memory-NOTHING
Extra chores-NOTHING

My SO keeps asking for more suggestions…all that keeps coming to my mind is the whole mouth being washed out with soap like when I was little…I’m guessing that it would be “child abuse” now so we just laugh at the idea but SERIOUSLY…it’s getting really old!

My mother used to say “if you’re gonna lie, you may as well make it a good one!”…I don’t think SS could come up with a good one if he was PAID to!

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

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I really do think it's a

I really do think it's a sickness... pathological. I used to be friends with a man who was a pathological liar. He truly believed his lies and most of the time they were just plain stupid... the lies he told were usually to try and impress people. I believed his lies for quite some time, as I had no reason not to, and then the lies caught up with him...

Here is the one that busted him.... "Howard" told me (and some other people) he was going to visit a horse rescue place and possibly purchase a horse from them because he thought it would be a nice thing to do. (Ok, sounds good me!) Well he supposedly flew out to go to this place in Connecticut, texted me a few times during the day about how sad it was there.. oh my, one horse was missing an eye, one horse had a broken leg, oh mercy he was just in tears it was so sad!! Told me his flight would be getting in around 5 pm that night. Well, while I was at the barn cleaning stalls that afternoon, another mutual friend of ours happened by to chit chat for a bit and just happened to mention that he saw "Howard" at the library earlier. I was like wait, huh?? He said, "Yeah, I KNOW it was him, I saw his car in the parking lot too" So when I finished my chores, I drove myself right to the library and sure enough, his car was there. I went inside and found him on one of the computers and asked him how is flight was???? Well, if you could have seen the look on his face! When I asked him why all the lies, he said that he really WAS going to go, but was too scared to fly and too embarassed to tell me that, so that is why he pretended he was there. Whatever, after that I was on to him and started really scrutinizing everything he told me and realized that he was seriously a pathological liar and couldn't be believed. He lied about having surgery, lied about paying for a helicopter medi-flight to help a friend, lied about just crazy stuff! Howard ended up in jail for embezzling over $50,000.00 from his employer and I'm not sure what happened to him after that. My therapist said most of the time they don't change.. because, again, they actually believe their lies.

Hope your SS isn't headed down this road... maybe your DH should get him some help. I mean I know all kids lie from time to time... but your story kind of reminds me of my "friend"

SS is already in therapy as

SS is already in therapy as he's diagnosed with PDD (Autistic spectrum disorder) & has a crappy BM.

SS's BM (Nasty) is a chronic liar. I'm hoping against hope that SS isn't going down the same path. SD7 lies too but she cracks & fesses up quickly whereas he will just continue on in his story & dig himself a deeper hole to crawl out of so-to-speak.

The narcissitic apple doesn't

The narcissitic apple doesn't fall far from the narcissistic tree.

Oh Auteur, I was hoping

Oh Auteur, I was hoping someone would say "YES, WASHING ONE'S MOUTH OUT WITH SOAP IS NOT CHILD ABUSE, IT WORKS WONDERS---DO IT!!!"

LOL Ah well, fingers crossed though...I don't think I can deal with SD7 having her momma's attitude & entitlement issues & SS having his momma's fibatious ways...hopefully he grows out of it.

Soap can be toxic, I wouldnt

Soap can be toxic, I wouldnt go there. A nice mouthful of a non toxic yet undesireable food would do the same trick. Does the kid hate Miracle Whip, Mustard, etc? (do not use hot sauce or spicy things)

I tell SD5 that if anything nasty comes out of her mouth, something nasty will go in.

She believes me.

I lied alot as a child, mostly to avoid disappointing my dad, and some to just ensure I had a better chance of getting my way.

Chances are grandma wanted him to read the book. He did not want to, so he told her he was done. Stupid yes, but pathological...meh maybe not.

Well, while I know that soap

Well, while I know that soap is BAD, there's nothing wrong with wishful thinking...sadly, he doesn't dislike anything enough to use as a threat.

SS & SD read everyday during the summer. GM was asked to have them read...so she did. Him lying to try to get out of reading so that he can sit in front of the TV for the rest of the week is NOT OK...that's what it was all about...& that is all.

The real issue is that this is a constant battle...he lies over pretty much everything. Lately, if he opens his mouth, I mentally try to work out if it's true or not. He doesn't bother making up good lies...just goes with the first thing that comes to his fruity little mind. He lies about everything ranging from the dogs, to playing with his sister, to reading, to chores, to life in general.

Worst part is...when it would MAKE SENSE to lie like if it would get him in trouble, he's johnny on the spot yet he lies over everything else.

UGH