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Parent Teacher Evening- Should Step parents go?

sweetness01's picture

Hi,

I've been with my partner for 3 years now- he has a BD6. Although his daughter lives with her mum, she regularly stays round and I have a fantastic relationship with my SD- I genuinely do love her and want what's best for her.

As usual BM isnt the most easiest person to deal with- she has 4 other children from 3 different men, divorced twice and is under 30!! It is clear BM does not make an effort to help any of her kids with school work and now SD has fallen behind. Parent-teacher evening is coming up and my partner wants me to along with him, as well as with BM. I want to go because I am interested in how SD is doing at school, but I think BM will kick off. However, it's worth saying that in the past she has allowed her current bf to go along to one of her other childrens parent teacher meetings (he is their SD).

Is it usual for step parents to go to parent-teacher meetings?

Thanks Smile

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thelaststraw's picture

Yes.

mom23ms's picture

When it comes to stuff at school especially with his youngest daughter who is having to repeat Kindergarten because she is delayed and have behavior problems (though it is ME who pushes and pushes to have this little tested) because my SO and the BM is in denial. It is ME who sits with her and does her homework and purcheses things for school projects and parties, and it's ME who packs lunches and her snack, but yet whenever they have a meeting at school for her I am not allowed to attend. Even though it's me who works with her. However I was told is I wanted to go to one of her meetings if her BM didn't go, then I could attend.

sweetness01's picture

I know how you feel. Even though SD6 doesnt live with us, its always me that seems to be me worried about how she's doing at school. BM doesnt help with their homework or anything, whereas Im always buying her fun educational things to do, spending time reading with her etc.

BM moved SD's schools without telling my bf first. Turns out shes gone from being in the top school in the area to one of the worst ones!!

secondplace's picture

I agree with you Spunki. If Mom is involved with the skids education, and she plans on attending, there really is no place for the stepmother.

As a BM myself (although my kids are older now), it wouldn't have bothered me if my kids SM showed up - I would be glad they were taking an interest in my kids, but unfortunately, all BMs don't see it that way, and I wouldn't want to provoke their anger over this.

But, if she has no interest, then by all means go.

SteppingUp's picture

I agree, too. But in this case she definitely has every right to go and be the involved step parent.

If for some reason it doesn't work out, why not have SO schedule a private meeting with the teacher on a different day, where both of you can go.

overit2's picture

I agree with Spunki here-if she is doing her job as BM then I wouldn't go...

I DO remember a CLASSIC case of stepmom overstepping-my neighbor had one of them.

Her and her new dh, and her ex and his wife were all on very good terms-joing bday parties, etc...but the stepmom would come to every school everything for her sson-NOT the dad-and it DID always seem she was way overstepping and out of line and trying to hard when it wasn't her place....guess she was new to it all lol.

BUT I remember my neighbor (the BM) just looking at me and rolling her eyes-we had a bus incident...normally mom would go-it would be handled-or mom and dad-but NOPE stepmom was there and tried every time to outspeak the mom-louder, calling attention to herself addressing the teachers...saying MY son...well I mean our son...blah blah blah-it was nauseating to watch-totally out of line IMO. My neighbor bit her tongue but vented later...NOT her place IMO.

RaeRae's picture

Wow.... that sounds kinda like our BM's new husband.. He is the LOUDEST at meetings and functions.

sweetness01's picture

I agree the stepmum should never try to outspeak the BM- at the end of the day it is her child. However, if I went to the parent teacher meeting I doubt I would even say very much at all. The main point of me going would be to listen and find out how SD is doing at school. When SD comes to stay with us I help her with her school work all the time eg we make shopping lists to practise writing and spelling, we play word games as we're driving to places etc etc therefore I feel it would be helpful to know what kind of things my SD is learning about currently and what level she should be achieving. SD is falling behind at school mainly because BM does not do anything to help her at home- rather than accepting this is the case BM instead tries to invent a different learning impairment that SD might have- she is tested and they always come back normal. Neither me or my DH can change the situation at BM's house, however when SD stays with us I feel we should try our best to help her with her school work- even if she doesnt actually learn new material it will at least boost her confidence, self-esteem and encourage her to like doing school related activities rather than seeing them as a chore.

Yes my DH could just go with BM to the meetings, however DH has a habit of missing out fine details, therefore him reporting what the teacher said to me would not be the same as hearing it myself.

Asher10's picture

i prefer to refrain from that particular torture scenario.but to each his own.if you feel it will help sd by having you go then go.otherwise maybe shoot an email to the teachers and get a recap of what went down and make sure they know you're in the picture and can be contacted for things also.

Jsmom's picture

I don't believe that Stepmoms go, if BM's are there. Sorry. No reason, she has two parents. I have volunteered at school for SS twice and only because it was needed to get an idea of bullying that SS was getting and BM didn't have him that week. He has two parents that are somewhat active in his life. Would they parent my way, no. But, I don't have the right to insist that they do. It is there son. Not mine.

Sorry, I don't think this is your place to go. She is there and it is her daughter...

bioandstep2009's picture

SS11 lives with us most of the time, seeing BM EOWE. I am home in the afternoons when SS11 comes home, I check for homework, make sure he does it, etc. I am the one to push DH to get SS help in school since his reading and writing are issues. I spend more time with SS11 than either of his natural parents solely because I'm home . Yet, I do not go to these parent teacher meetings and really, I ought to, as I oversee his homework. I think BM wouldn't flip out at the point if I went because she knows exactly how much I do for SS and has thanked me numerous times for this. I guess I don't go because I am trying to put the responsibility for SS's education back where it belongs i.e. on DH and BM. I don't mind helping out if I so choose but at the end of the day, SS is not my responsibility. If BM can't go to a parent teacher conference, then most likely, I would go with DH because honestly, I know better what questions to ask and what concerns to voice. Last open house (non-conference), BM took The Wallet (her hubby) with her. She asked DH first though if that was ok. DH really wanted me to go since she was bringing The Wallet but I declined as I already had somewhere else to be and I don't really care much for The Wallet and his overindulgent ways.

Butterflykissesandlicks's picture

I stay out of these things personally. SD7 has two parents who both go to parent-teacher conferences. DH will let me in on everything when he comes home.

I just don't go because I would feel funny if someone else besides myself had gone to my own BD20's parent-teacher meetings.

This is only my opinion.

Added: DH takes notes and comes home with tons of paperwork for me to look over later. That has been fine with me.

Willow2010's picture

I think Step parents should only go if they have 50/50 custody or more. AND if they are SURE that BM will not make a scene at the school in front of the small kids.

IMHO…there is no reason for a step to go if they only see the kid a few times a month.

Butterflykissesandlicks's picture

IMHO- I wonder why my DH even goes? He only visits with SD7 a grand total of two weekends per month. He isn't even with SD7 enough to "be there" for her at school? I think it is a pride issue.

sweetthing's picture

I never have gone and don't really see a need. Only SS10 ever has any issues ( straight A student but has difficulty staying on task ect.. at times) DH goes with BM and comes home & tells me. If there are issues we talk with SS here at our home. My BM is a super mom type & I think actually told DH when we were first married that she never wanted me at these things. Okay by me because I have a life.Funny thing is back in those days they left the kids home with me while they went & then both talked to them when they got to our place about the conference.

Last-Wife's picture

Luckily, we are past this point, but we always went together. We have primary custody; I was the one raising the kids. Honestly, 13 years ago when we married, I never asked if I "should" do or not do something. I alwyas did what was right for the skids. I help with the homework, I am a teacher myself- I went. If she didn't like it, she never said anything. In most cases, it was the one time she met the teacher...

RaeRae's picture

Our BM goes to the parent teacher stuff, however she has ABSOLUTELY NO INPUT on ANYTHING. She just sits there. No questions, no input whatsoever. A lump in a chair. She is only there so her signature can be on a paper that she can bring to future court battles.

Therefore, I go. I help the children with their homework, I am the main disciplinarian, I am the one who sees their educational strengths and weaknesses, so I will go. I pushed for SS6#2 to be tested and he is getting the help he needs. I am pushing for SD9 to be tested because she is so far behind (thanks BM for doing her homework for her her whole life), and does not retain info at all. BM just sits there.

sweetness01's picture

Wow its crazy how some people are allowed to have kids. Good on you for pushing hard with your SK's, its hard especially when their bio parents cant be bothered.

With regards to testing BM is the opposite...she makes issues out of nothing because she wants to get as many benefits as possible! So far in the past year SD has been tested for anorexia, dyslexia and now autism...when anybody can see there is no way in this world SD is autistic. Yet BM still phones DH up crying saying she thinks she's autistic. Yes SD is a bit behind at school- but what do you expect when she has no input at home at all- the school have carried out tests for learning impairments all of which have been normal. It's almost like BM would like for her kids to have problems so she has something to complain about, make DH feel guilty about and to try to claim more money of the state! What's worse is I believe if you keep telling a child they have a learning impairment when they dont, they could well develop something because they have low self-esteem. But what do I know- there's no way I could have SD's interests at heart.

BM has told my DH that I am not involved in SD's life apart from when she comes to visit us, which is separate to her main life apparently :-s

RaeRae's picture

That's not good. Kids should not be labeled, it's getting way out of hand. There is a 'disorder' for everything out there. I saw on the news last night, a preview for some news show. The teenage boy was of course diagnosed with some sort of disorder. They showed a piece of an interview where the boy said '....and I could just snap at any time and get angry....'. REALLY?? Quit labeling the kid and beat his ass when he needs it, support him when he needs it, and maybe the kid wouldn't be labeled and on a news show!

This show actually said 1 out of 5 kids has some sort of mental disorder!!!

Anyway, it is obvious that my SS6#2 has a learning disorder (as much as I hate that word). He was born early, his speech is impaired, and he's way behind SS6#1 in school. He's in a class that is not as advanced, he cannot read and still cannot remember the sounds to letters. He's in 1st grade, and did attend preschool for 2 years. So the testing for him was WAY overdue.

As for SD9, her mother did her homework for her in kindergarten, 1st grade and 2nd grade. She had no clue how her daughter was doing in school because she just didn't care. She was transferred to another school in the middle of 3rd grade last year, and this school put her BACK into the 2nd grade. So she is in 3rd grade this year, and still doing horribly. She's in a lower class, too, and doing roughly the same kind of work as my DS8 (who is in 2nd grade), and he is excelling. She struggles with numbers, and although she reads well she doesn't retain information.

If you ask BM, these kids are doing ok in school. I've heard the teachers ask how they are with homework at home, and she answers 'they do good!'. Yes, she actually said that!! She has TWO homework days per month. Two. Due to my husband being at work when the kids get home from school, I am the one helping these kids with their homework every day. Therefore, although BM answered 'they do good', I could not let that be the answer the teachers heard. Some may say I'm overstepping, I don't care, I had to tell the teachers how the children are actually doing with their homework. How SS6#2 struggles to remember the sounds of letters, how he gets so frustrated that he sometimes will cry. How SD9 has to re-do her math homework every night, because when I make her do it by herself first with little help(a plan discussed with the teacher), she regularly gets 9 out of 10 simple math questions wrong.

Of course I do not tell the teacher how SS6#2 will cry when I cannot be there to help him with his homework every other Thursday, how he will tell me 'mama doesn't know what to do' when I tell him there is no time because mama is coming to pick them up. I don't know what this woman does with her kids, but poor SS6#2 wants to RUSH and try and do his homework before his mother picks him up. But there is just not enough time because it usually takes us over an hour. He WANTS to understand, he WANTS to learn and it is so obvious that he is not just distracted. He wants to be able to read, and actually he is pretty good in math... he just struggles so much. And it seems that mama doesn't help.

So, call it overstepping, but I will overspeak BM in a meeting or conference.

mom23ms's picture

I have to say in my case I would love to go. We have 50/50 with the kids. They are with us every day a half. They go back to their mom's for a day and a half, and back to us every day and a half. Confusing but they only live a half mile away...Oh the joys.

Anyway its is me that doesn't the homework and the school with. The youngest is repeating Kindergarten (this is her second year in Kindergarten) and is STILL far behind. Not just education wise but with mentality. She receives speech therapy and occupational therapy through the school and yet until I came into the picture my SO and BM figured she was just a "late bloomer" and the "school system" would get her caught up. Well it has not worked yet! She is making progress but it's because I work with her day and night. By all means I am not taking all the credit but this child seriously needs to go to a professional and be evaluated because I think she has some SERIOUS problems. I can't even take her to her Pediatrician. The BM shows no interest in the problems and the only reason why they have meetings with the teacher, and the speech and occupational therapists is because I push my SO to call a meeting and discuss the problems and progress. It really does hurt because I "feel" I am the only one that shows any initiative or even care for her and yet I am "not allowed" to attend or do anything other then keep working with her. I'll just add tutor to my job list which already consists of chef, taxi, nanny, maid.

MamaBecky's picture

I have two SD's ages 5 & 13 and I go with my husband to all of their school functions/open houses/parent-teacher conferences. I dont care if there BM's like it or not...I go for my DH and his kids.

tiredout's picture

i love how BM's dont want SM at P/T conferences but when SM's dont want to go to sport events, concerts etc...then they are in the wrong for not supporting the Sks..quite a double standard

Rags's picture

Yes, I never missed one of my SS-18's P-T conferences in his entire school career.

Go if you want to go and if your BF wants you there.

somerg's picture

i think it's all at the descression of the parents involved. i personally will not allow or agree to my dd's smom going, BUT there are good reason's i'm not getting into, my dh doesn't go because he just perfer's to "stay out of it" dont blame him there,(i've only gone to 1 for my skids, perfer not to go because it's literally asking for more drama with the bm) since dd lives with me, he keeps her for me so i can go, usually it's not an issue for me, i'm usually the only 1 that goes, i've never missed a single 1 and even though i give dd's bd a chance to schedule on his own time, he still doesn't go, the ONLY pt conference he's made it to was when she was in pk, she's now 2nd grade...smom thank god does not show up

Butterflykissesandlicks's picture

@ Somerg "smom thank god does not show up"

What exactly is wrong with the step mother in your ex-husband's life?

somerg's picture

she has emotional issues, and actually possibly bi polar but refuses testing, treats my dd like CRAP and her and my ex fight like cats and dogs around her. it was BAD until i called DHS it immediately got better (even DHS said there was a problem) and is steadily getting bad again they both have admited to me there is a problem but still obviously refuses to fix it---at least while she's there

Butterflykissesandlicks's picture

Did DHS come to a conclusion? I personally would not send my daughter to a situation that was that hostile. Never did.

somerg's picture

yes they did, they required them parental counseling, marriage counseling and sources told me it was not bad enough to deny him visitation rights....but was getting bad, they also required all 4 (my my dh ex and his wife) to go to counseling TOGETHER but so far they've shown they refuse, dd has been going for 2 months, and we've made attempts to contact her bd, but no effort on his part...that's ok, its all working out they way i expected, and soon he'll get bit for it HARD

smom will not cooperate if i'm involved, but that will change soon too either she'll cooperate, or he'll divorce her....either way it's best for dd

Butterflykissesandlicks's picture

I would just go for sole custody. IMO. Why don't you just do that?

somerg's picture

because i don't have enough against him..............yet, that's pretty much how we roll right now, i'll bring up something to him that he has the "right to know" (pt conference, issues at school, programs, ball games-he only makes it if it's on the weekends---HIS WEEKENDS, then she will probably miss out-yes she see's this) about and he'll tell me to use my descression, end of story i'm not too worried about it, he's pretty much given me sole custody (just not in the books) and with the way things are at his house my 8 year old is starting to not want to go see him, she may get to voice her opinion to the judge already. she asked me for less visitation time (brought it up christmas day), so i'm not to worried about biting him with law and taking her from him.........i'll let her make that choice, and soon, if things stay the way they are, she'll be old enough to say i'm not coming over, and there's not a thing he can do and i wont have to make her

he only excercises the "benefit" of joint custody, trust me, that's already being addressed. when i was asking HIM to help me get her to a dr appointment his wife has asked about taking my dd to a dr that SHE goes to and not the one that KNOWS my dd that she's seen all her life and threw a fit in front of my dd when i denied her that option, and told me they were just going to take her without my discression and tell the dr that she was HER dd, yeah that didn't go over too well, i called their bluff and told them if they do that, i will be filing charges against ex, smom AND the doctor...then she blew up in front of my dd (that was all over phone)....since then i dont' tell them when appts are or ask for them to take off work for a change and take her....they don't know it til they get the bill }:)

it's about 10 years worth of issues, she's always "over stepped" her line in my opinion, and i can be a down right bitch if i feel my territory is crossed.

Totalybogus's picture

Personally, I don't care what the BM wants. If my husband wants me there for support, then I go. I am not actively involved and do not participate, but I do accompany my husband if he wishes.

somerg's picture

i've actually stopped telling bd when pt conf's are, he never goes, and could care less how envolved he is with her, that's his thing and he'll have to deal with her later

Rags's picture

My SS's SpermIdiot has never participated in his education, nor has SpermGrandMa or anyone else in the SpermClan. They did not even attend his HS graduation.

I attended nearly every parent teacher conference and ever school activity for his entire education career so far.

The SpermClan even has told him on repeated occasions that school is not as important as visiting with them and that he should choose to not return home from SpermClan visitation in time to start school in order to spend more time with them.

No one from the SpermClan even bothered to attend his HS graduation or even called to congratulate him.

No one in the SpermClan has accomplished more than a HS diploma. This includes all generations of their polluted gene pool. SpermGrandMa and my SS's Aunt (Who we like by the way. She detests her worthless POS older brother as much as we do) enrolled in a few accounting classes at the local CC when my wife was working on her accounting degree and still has no clue what the difference is between an Associates, Bachelors or Masters degree. When she speaks with my SS or my wife about school she repeatedly asks "So (wife's name), you have your Associates in accounting right?". My wife justs laugh in her face and says "No (bitch from hell), I have Bachelors degrees in Management and Accounting and a Masters of Business Administrations and I am a Certified Public Accountant". SpermGrandMa gives her a confused tilted head look and says "Oh, I thought you had your Associates. Why don't you have your Associates?". MY SS argues with his SpermGrandMa about this shit nearly every visitation. She is either insanely more ignorant than even I think or she if fucking with my kid and my wife.

SS loves SpermGrandMa and the SpermClan but he is incredibly defensive of his mom.

So, this topic is an important one for me and for the Rags clan. My wife and I commited that education will be a priority in our marriage and in our family. We both are graduate degreed and hold professional certifications in our professions.

My big problem with the SpermClan on this topic is not their own lack of value for education but that they propegate that crap to my SS. My own mom did not finish HS until she was in her late 40's but she sure made for damned sure that my brother and I finished HS in a reasonable time and went on to college. She would have killed us had we not.

I would go to the PTCs if I was you. Since BM has established that she is unwilling or incapable of effectively supporting your Skid's educational efforts and will not share her communications with the school with your DH, both you and DH need to be there whether BM wants you to be or not.

All IMHO of course.

Best regards,