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Jsmom's picture

I am so upset right now. So if you are intent on bashing me please move on. I can't handle it right now. I am barely holding my anger and tears in check. I feel guilty as hell that I didn't do something sooner.

My son was called into the guidance counselors office to discuss the situation. Apparently my SD went into the office and said that he was provoking her. We had no intention of doing anything if it stopped. Counselor said that if he didn't stop provoking her he would get an I.S.S. He said he explained everything to her and it was apparent that they had already talked to SD and she had told them he called her the "B" word as she put it.

I called DH and went off on him. Yes I was wrong to do it. But, I am tired of this mess. And because I didn't get involved she did. I am sure BM told her to go first so she could tell her side. So now, it is in a counselor's report in my son's record. Beautiful. If he ever does do something wrong he already has a strike against him.

Here is the plan now. I am going to school tomorrow to talk to this counselor and the Vice Principal. My son doesn't want to keep telling adults what is going on. He wants to be kept out of it. I will let him take the AM bus since she doesn't ride it much and this situation doesn't seem to happen in the AM. I will be picking him up from school every day. He will have to wait 20 minutes in the library for me to get him since the traffic is so bad after school. I give in on this. I thought telling him to ignore it was the thing to do. But, she moved first to cover her butt. I will tell the school everything and I will try and keep my son out of it. But, I was a good kid in school and I know how it felt to be called into the office. It is scary. Also, the counselor kept talking to him like he was having emotional problems and asking him about our home life and his after school activities. Like he was the one with the problem. Who knows what that girl told them?

Also, I have sent an email to our lawyer without telling DH asking about a RO. Can we do one? What is the cost? How does this impact the case? Does it work in a HS setting? I may be over reacting, but I am worried. This girl manipulates everyone - what is to stop her from getting some boy to beat up my son? She is a beautiful girl. She used to laugh that she can get people to do anything. She even gets her own friends to buy her things when she goes shopping. I have seen it. I warned everyone and no one wanted to listen to me. Now she has worked the guidance counselor...

I wish to hell I had foreseen this mess and I would have stayed in my own house and not moved into this.

Comments

caregiver1127's picture

JSMOM - you now need to be the mom - FUCK all the criticism that your are getting from certain people on this site - go in and protect your own - screw that little bitch who is causing all of these problems. You have a god given right to make sure that your child is protected and safe from people like your BM and her daughter - I would also tell my hubby that he puts a stop to this shit or you are moving - your son does not need a mark on his record because this little bitch wants to cause problems. Go to the school tomorrow and advocate for your son and screw what anyone says - SD is a bully and just because she is a female means nothing - she is bullying your son!

I have tried to stay quite about this post but ENOUGH IS ENOUGH - you tried to be nice and diplomatic now it is time to be the animal that is called a mother!!!

PS - Please delete any comment that pisses you off or upsets you that is what the button is there for - YOU GO GIRL - KICK SOME SD's ASS!!!

caregiver1127's picture

First off you are not important enough in my world to comment on your shit about this blog - we posted at the same time and you just happened to come up first - guess I type slower than you!!!

caregiver1127's picture

If you were my kid - I would lock you in a room and make you write a 40,000 word essay on what it means to respect someone!! And how is shit nasty when you write WTF - just because you don't write fuck out does not make you prim and proper!! Get over yourself - if I respected you even a little bit - a little bit this would make a world of difference to me but I have no respect for you or any of your comments!! There nasty enough for you!!!

PS - if I was you kid I would run away and never come back home in fact even if I hated my father's new wife (and she was the ultimate evil SM) I would still beg to live with them!!!

caregiver1127's picture

And yes now that you asked I think you are one of the ones that have upset her regarding this matter - I also think you are not a SM but a BM and you used to be called Blendedfam with a rabbit avatar - so please leave me alone!!!

caregiver1127's picture

WTF?? Yeah you being mean just like you always are - read the comments and the times they are posted and don't be so paranoid - it makes you unattractive and makes you seem very mean!!!

I am done with this little portion of the thread and you - I am not hijacking this blog - this woman is hurting and believe it or not it is not always about you!!!

pastepmomof3's picture

I'm so sorry this is still going on. I think you are absolutely right to go into the school and get the issue straight. Naturally the counselor is going to pick a side, most likely the first one to bring it up, and then go into psychoanalysis bullshit trying to "figure" things out. Whatever. I think you're right on with this.

I think the other arrangement of picking BS up after school will be the best recourse in this situation. I hope SD realizes that this behavior/action is just making things that much worse and your DH needs to get involved. I know he was trying to handle things but this has gone too far and idle talk and emails mean nothing to someone with an agenda.

I hope the lawyer can come up with something. BTW, I would've raised hell at DH too about this. It's extremely frustrating. BUT, until you can get in and get your son's name cleared, there's no reason to fret much more over this. SD is putting nails in her own coffin, one action at a time.

Good luck to you.

overit2's picture

Well since it's escalated then YES, time to go to the school (which I actually agreed on your first blog was probably the best way to deal with this actually) and make sure there is no mark on his record. They just beat you to the punch, probably because they got negative attention from dad, so they escalated.

I would NOT get a RO, your DH would be furious and agree, there are no grounds really. Sitting w/his friends in the bus is not reason enough. They are there for serious protection from life threats and violence.

Go with the driving him from school for now until this is resolved. It will probably take a while.

Look-you did your best-we all have opinions-we all give advice based on how we would approach things. So go with your gut mom.

Jsmom's picture

I said I didn't want to drive him. I am not a SAHM. I have my own firm and am on the phone making over 100 calls a day. I do not have the time to drive and wait in the long line of traffic to get him. But, I will do that now until he gets his license in Feb.

Also, my SD clearly threatened my son in a Facebook conversation that my DH kept me out of. Now he showed me. Now, I will show the school and have a copy put in her record. See my last reply on this.

Also by trying to resolve with the parents is the right thing to do. I see that now. But, obviously BM didn't see it. She is aware of the threat SD made and doesn't care. I also found out from DH at dinner that BM insisted on BS apologizing to SD and that was just before he hung up on her. Didn't tell me that either. Now, he understands and will back me up. I will continue to look at RO as an option. I didn't know about her threatening to have boys beat up my son. Now it is a police matter. It did not have to be. BM could have just made SD stay away.

GoodbyeNormaJean's picture

There is currently an "anti bullying" campaign going on in the school district that my kids are in. It's long overdue, in my opinion. Anyway, the poster posted all over in the schools says "No one has the right to interfere with your safety or your education in any way". Not the exact words, but you get the gist of it.

This girl is intentionally stirring turds and messing with your kid. He tried to handle it. Now he's being antagonized.

March right in there with guns blazing and squash that little bitch. She can learn a lesson now or later, but now will save everyone involved a lot of heartache. Time to take the kid gloves OFF! And to hell with anyone's opinions.

GoodbyeNormaJean's picture

One of my SDs is just like her BM. She talks and talks and talks and pushes buttons and pushes buttons. She will follow the other kids and antagonize them, continuing to push whatever button she can to try to get them to engage her in her hostility. When one of them finally snaps, she then runs to the nearest authority figure and cries victim.

This is the same behavior that turns into a frying pan swinging woman pounding on her husband both physically and verbally later in life, pulling out all the stops, saying the cruelest thing she can think of, and then when he pops her in the mouth, she calls the cops and screams DV, with the bruise to prove it. I'm not admonishing violence against women, so don't even start down that road with me, but there's abuse, and there's abuse. I don't know why females often think it's okay to verbally and mentally abuse a man because he has no recourse. I think the penalty for mental and verbal abuse should be equal to the penalty for beating someone's ass. You'd see a lot less button pushing going on if that were the case.

This SD has a poor example of a mother and is headed down a road that is going to end up in the destruction of a lot of lives.

GoodbyeNormaJean's picture

To walk up to a girl who is standing on the street and say "you are a bitch!" would not be right.

To be minding your own business, then be engaged by a bitch who is being a bitch for no other reason than to be a bitch, and to then say "Get out of my face, BITCH" was well warranted.

And you lose your right to complain about abuse when you refuse to stop abusing someone to the extent that they actually abuse you back. If this were another little girl she was doing this to, and that girl had called her a bitch, who would be in trouble?

overit2's picture

YES YES GNJ...this is absolutely true. I've seen it happen on both ends. My exh mother was this way-and screwed her kids up and left her husband a shell of a man.

My bf exw would throw objects at his car and across the house...violence can come from both ends. And entitled, selfish, narcissitic women are NO execption.

Jsmom's picture

I am sorry I can't read anymore tonight. I will tomorrow. As a side note, DH came home and printed the conversation with SD and him so that I can take it to the school. He wants to go but I want to keep him out of it, unless they don't believe me.

In the conversation on Facebook she threatened to have some of her big male friends handle it for her. He never told me this and I suspected that there was more, but he was protecting me. He knew it would cause me to lose it on SD.

I am going to the school in the morning and will ask to meet with the Guidance counselor and the Vice Principal and my SD's counselor. I want everyone on the same page.

helena_brass's picture

Wow, what a mess. I've been following your ordeal, and I can't believe that it's come to this. I'm so sorry that this little brat is making such a mess for everyone. She really should have to pay taxes on this later in life (seriously, how many working adults are now taking out time for something that didn't have to happen?).

I was going to say that you probably didn't have grounds for an RO, but with the threat of big male friends, maybe you do? Your lawyer will know.

This stresses me out just thinking about it--you must be a wreck. Get some rest if you can girl.

sixteensmom's picture

Why not let dh go with you and show the school that even daddy thinks she's a manipulative little bitch who needs to be expelled?

stormabruin's picture

I agree that your DH should be there. His daughter is in the middle of it. He is already involved, & it'll help keep everyone on the same page.

Anon2009's picture

I think you're doing the right thing. Someone has to put a stop to SD's behavior. Bring all of your documentation with you and let the school have a look at that.

Also, your son can contact fb and see if they can un-list him from SD's siblings.

aggravated1's picture

Jsmom, I am sorry it has come to this. Hopefully it can all be fixed. I would have that school giving me her ass on a platter by the time I was done.

SillyGilly's picture

Good luck Jsmom. I'm sorry this has taken such a dramatic and nasty turn. Keep everyone updated - we'll be thinking of you and sending positive thoughts!

N8tiveButt3rfly's picture

I was wondering why the other children (DS's friends) can't be called into the office and questioned? There HAS to have been someone else on the bus who has witnessed all of this. Someone needs to get to the bottom of what is driving your SD and if it's simple jealousy someone needs to teach her a HEALTHY way to deal with it. I understand that YOUR top priority is YOUR son but then isn't your SD your DH's priority? I don't think it's a good idea for him to give up custody of his daughter when it looks as though her mother does NOT have her own daughter's best interest at heart. Something is obviously wrong with that little girl and she either needs a good helping of discipline or some mental help but it doesn't look as though anybody cares because everybody's too busy looking at the EFFECT and not the CAUSE... I'll tried reading your other posts about how it got THIS bad with your SD but I'm sorry and I'm honestly not trying to pick on you or anything because I see that it's the LAST thing you need right now but SOMEONE needs to be a parent to that little girl. I'm wondering if maybe that isn't part of the problem here...

Jsmom's picture

My son doesn't want to involve others. But, I am going to ask that as well.

As for parenting her. DH tried. BM stopped him at every turn. He quit. Now she has not gotten any drama in our house in months and she feeds off of it. I also suspect that she is Bi-polar as well. We gave in. She didn't want to live with us and have rules.

Now it has escalated and will end up costing everyone again. My time and now my money. My stop next is to the Police if the school doesn't remove her from the bus. At least I can file a complaint since she threatened my son in writing.

Do not tell me again that you feel sorry for her. She created this reality when she continued to cause drama in this house. It was her signature on the CO modification. She did this, not me or my son. Hell the worst thing her father did was ground her for lying about having a boyfriend.

Chavez's picture

I agree with the part that all the witnesses to this need to be called into the office and questioned as well. I know your son doesn't want to involve anyone else but to really clear him from wrongdoing having his friends to back him would certainly help I'm sure.

And, all of this kind of mess is exactly why I'm so glad my DS never rode the school bus. My SDs tell me all kinds of crap that goes on on their school buses and it's awful.

sixteensmom's picture

In your previous post you said eventually punishment included iss and being kicked off the bus. Why do you have to go pick up son? That little b should be removed from the bus, especially since you brought this all to the attention of the school first.

I hate manipulators.

Elizabeth's picture

Ah, the cry to the counselor routine to get them on your side. Sneaky trick. SD17 has pulled that several times. In fact, there was one point, not long after DH and I married and she was about 9, that she was in the counselor's office EVERY DAY. For what?! Because she "needed" someone to "talk to" about her "situation." It was ridiculous. SD even got her high school counselor to write a letter to the court about DH and me when SD wanted to move in with BM. This counselor had never met EITHER of us and yet was willing to go out on a limb in a document to submit to the court. It's a good thing we didn't get a copy of that, I think I would have gotten that counselor fired. It was ridiculous.

Yes, you need to do something about this. You don't want your son having problems later in life because of something SD "said" he did. Even if our legal system is innocent until proven guilty, human nature turns that around into guilty until proven innocent.

SusiQ's picture

I feel so bad for your son and for you. I'd be livid that DH kept the conversations from you but he probably thinks his heart was in the right place.
I thought I read that you had already notified the school - so didn't you really strike first and then SD tried a different in-road.

I would be so furious at this point and I'm very angry that you are having to deal with this. If SD doesn't want to be a part of your lives then she should go already - what drama.

wanted_five's picture

This is exactly what I feared when I posted to you a day or two ago. I agree with those who say strike now. Schools are notorious for believing girls over boys and she got her foot in by going in to complain first. Take every shred of documentation in. INSIST that it be removed from his record IMMEDIATELY and that they put a stop to her harassment of your son. I realize she's your husband's daughter but he is your son. Treat it like you would if the person harassing him was not your husband's daughter and protect him!

skylarksms's picture

Jsmom, I feel for you. I definitely feel you need to make the school aware that this IS a form of bullying.

It doesn't matter if she is a girl and he is a guy and bigger than her, it is STILL bullying (which is getting a LOT of media attention lately and may make the school stand up and take notice).

N8tiveButt3rfly's picture

Do not tell me again that you feel sorry for her. She created this reality when she continued to cause drama in this house. It was her signature on the CO modification. She did this, not me or my son. Hell the worst thing her father did was ground her for lying about having a boyfriend.

How you can YOU tell ME what to do? What gives YOU that right?

I went back through and read your blogs. I lived for four YEARS with a man who had OCD and it's damn near impossible for a NORMAL person and NORMAL children to live with someone like that! He was constantly setting rules that my children never in a MILLION years could have followed all of them and he made damn sure that when they DIDN'T follow them he was RIGHT on it! Your SD14 asked for you and her DH to attend counseling with her... she WANTED to work things out with you and she was ASKING for help and YOU said no. Why? Because YOU thought the counselor was going to blame you. Why would you jump to that conclusion without even giving it a shot? That was EXACTLY what my XBF did when I asked for all of us to go to counseling because he KNEW he was in the wrong and he didn't want anybody to find out.

Also after reading your blogs it bothers me that you turned to buying SS11 a TV and xbox because now you're trying to get him to want to live with DH and you full-time.

I am entitled to my own opinion... I read a LOT of blogs on here and all I usually see are normal frazzled SM's who just need somewhere to vent so that they can continue to be patient in the home... but I see something different in your posts. Every post that I read sounded like this little girl was being a NORMAL teenager and then she got PUSHED. Of course things have now escalated to the point of no return and of course now she's going to lash out at your DS. It's either because she feels that it's the only way she can get back at you for taking her dad away or maybe your son really was provoking her. My XBF's children couldn't get along with my kids because my XBF was always being mean to my kids right in front of his and so they naturally did what dad did to try to make him proud. My kids also resorted to acting out bad to the ex and his kids. Now that I'm in a new a relationship where I'M not being abused and my children aren't being manipulated my kids are calm and relaxed and they absolutely LOVE their step-dad and in fact when their step-dad and I have even a TINY argument my children come to me and ask me if what we were arguing over was so bad and that I should just let it go because DH is wonderful and my kids are scared that we will break-up and I will end up with another XBF.

I was really nice in my original post but since I didn't feed your fire you retaliated with telling me (a complete stranger) what to do.

I think you're being too hard on this little girl and she's retaliating. I think if you have such a hatred for a TEENAGE girl you at least owe it to this family to walk away. That little girl needs her daddy and right now she can't have him so she's hurt and lashing out. I even had my DH read all your posts and without me saying a word he came to the exact same conclusion as I. In fact HE said that if he was that girl's dad he would have left already.

This is my opinion and this America and I am entitled to it. If you didn't want someone to see the other side of the coin here you shouldn't post publicly.

aggravated1's picture

You are entitled to your opinion, and I am entitled to mine. It's JSmom's blog, and she SPECIFICALLY stated that she couldnt deal with any criticism right now.
So, here is my opinion:
1. punctuation: you should become friends with it.

2. The fact that you keep calling this heinous twit a "little girl" who needs her "daddy" basically creeps me out.

3. Since Jsmom specifically stated she couldnt deal with criticism right now, and you chose to act like an asshat anyway, this leads me to the following conclusions:
you have no self control

perhaps you are too unintelligent to comprehend what she said

or maybe you are just a vindictive shit stirrer who wants to promote her own weird agenda.

Nevertheless, as this is AMERICA, I guess I can say your opinion on this is, bar none, one of the stupidest rants I have ever heard.

You sound like an idiot. Hope you are ok with that, since you chose to post publicly.

aggravated1's picture

Meh. Whatever. You showed your true colors on this thread yesterday. Like I give a crap at what someone like you has to say.

N8tiveButt3rfly's picture

Yeah, she REALLY sounds like she's in a delicate state when she replies to my posts. I was wondering anyway, why is she even on here if she needs to take care of her perfect son who does no wrong when her SD14 is such an evil little being? Aggravated1, YOU are the mean one. Was I even talking to YOU? No. Didn't think so. It is YOU who has a problem. NOT me. Now she's going to delete my posts. There's yet MORE proof that she's not what she wants everybody on here to think. Read the book, "Why Does He Do That, by Lundy Bancroft," then this woman will make actual sense to you. It will be clear why she became so agitated with my post. I wasn't even being mean to her in my original post and then she ordered me around. She'll delete my posts because she doesn't want anybody else to actually read her very own blogs and come to same conclusion as I. But whatever. Good day to you all.

SillyGilly's picture

nativebutterfly- Aggrevated1 can reply if she wants to because this is AMERICA - remember?

aggravated1's picture

So now you don't like it that I responded?? What happened to free countries, and America, and all that?

I get it, you think it just applies to YOU.

And you think she ordered you around? Sweetie, you just couldn't follow directions, that's all.

Have a nice day.

Jsmom's picture

Where do you get off telling me to leave my husband?

My SS is neglected by him BM. Their household is chaos. That is why we want him to live with us. He wanted an Xbox and his grandparents (Dh"s) bought it. Not me...

SD went to a lawyer when DH grounded her for lying for a year about a boyfriend. She started this. He couldn't win custody. She won't communicate with him other than to tell on my BS.

Glad your husband agreed with you. That is what they do, and I have a feeling he doesn't really ever disagree with you.

As for my SD needing her "Daddy" she is not 6 years old. She is 14 as she made clear to us with the lawyers and the judge. She doesn't need him.

As for the the therapy, her Dad did go with her and it was unproductive. She kept bashing me. The therapist even told her to grow up. BM is what has caused this to escalate with SD and CO modification.

I just asked you clearly to stop bashing me. Move on to someone else. I will start deleting your posts, because it is unproductive.

caregiver1127's picture

Oh wise one - maybe if she had done what she did today last week instead of waiting then her son would not have something on his record and you really give left handed comments - I feel your pain but saw it coming a mile away - that would be hindsight is 20/20 we all have it!!

SillyGilly's picture

Jsmom - Good grief, please do not give two thoughts to n8tives posts - they are ridiculous. Who cares about xbox, as if that would even be horrible if you did buy it. I don't even want to know the value $$ in our house of "gaming" equipment/games. In general, everyone seems to understand your situation and support you so I hope you are able to focus on those posts and DELETE the nonsense ones!

Asher10's picture

I don't have any advice for you Jsmom.Just a hug (((((jsmom))))).i'm sorry that your efforts to stop the situation have resulted in so much drama.I feel your anger and frustration and it's a darn shame people feel like they have to come on here and argue with you about it when you obviously aren't in the right frame of mind to deal with nonsense from strangers.It doesn't matter whether we agree or disagree with how you are handling things,what matters is we're all here to 'listen' and give you a chance to vent everything and organize your thoughts.
As for the coldhearted comments from others,you don't have to coddle someone or pat her on the back but maybe a little tact when commenting on such sensitive feelings and situations would help to get your message out more effectively.I thought we weren't here to hurt each other.I thought we were here to learn and grow without sticking a red hot pin into someone while they're having a hard time.Voicing your opinion and being heartless don't have to be one in the same.