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SS3 manipulates BM like crazy...and she knows it...and she lets him!

SteppingUp's picture

Yesterday I picked up SS3 from day care and Julie (daycare provider) asked me how SS is for us when he wakes up from naps -- he takes a good half hour to get out of his 'funk'. We talked about that for a bit, and Julie said that they've been working on putting "away" Whiney Boy after naps Smile Then she also said they've been working on the whole 'situation' of when BM drops him off in the mornings.

I said in shock, "Is he whiney when BM drops him off?"
Julie said, "NOOOOOooo, not at all! He plays around, and hides behind her legs, and pretends he doesn't know how to take off his coat and shoes, and BM doesn't do anything about it." Later, I told DF about this conversation and he said that BM told him that Julie "yelled" at her last week for that. BM's excuse was, "Oh, like it's the end of the world if my poor little son doesn't want his mommy to leave him!" (Uhhhh, he obviously doesn't care, he just wants to play! He NEVER does this when either me or DF drop him off.)

Fast-forward to about 7:30pm when BM was picking up the skids last night. BM and SD5 are standing in the entryway. SD already has her shoes and coat on. I look and realize that I can't see SS, so I look over the staircase and see that he's playing around on the stairs, no shoes, no coat on yet. I say somewhat sternly, "SS, get upstairs and get ready to go. Everyone's waiting."

He slowly walks up the stairs with a devilish smile on his face, looking at BM...then starts going back DOWN the stairs, still looking at her. I say in a more stern voice, "SS, NOW."

So he comes up the stairs. Then he flops down on his knees in front of BM. I say, "SS, go get your shoes." BM grabs them for him. I say, "SS, put your shoes on." BM grabs his foot to start putting his shoe on. (Apparently BM thinks her name is SS's name?)

Finally I grow sick of seeing BM doing it all and SS playing flop-master, that I say to SS, "Why don't you show Mommy how you're a BIG BOY when you're at our house? You ALWAYS get dressed all by yourself!?"

Meanwhile, BM keeps getting him dressed while he pretends to be lethargic, and just smiles at me and then BM the whole time. She finally responds, "Well he knows that I'll just do it for him so that's why he doesn't do anything." She laughs awkwardly and keeps working on his shoe (of course it is taking forever because he's not cooperating).

So I'm almost ready to give up, but then I say, "What happens when you're a big brother, SS? Didn't you tell me that you were going to teach your little brother how to put his socks on, and his shoes on? You need to practice what it means to be a BIG BOY!"

FINALLY, BM starts in..."yeah Son, what are you going to do when you're a big brother?..."

So BM apparently 'gets it' but refuses to teach her kid any responsibility and just folds to his every wish. And SS completely has her wrapped around his little finger.

I was soooo disappointed in SS, because it makes me so sad to know that he's like that all the time at her house. No wonder we've had such an ongoing battle of trying to get him to get dressed on his own, brush his teeth, etc! BM is going to have such a hard time raising this kid if he can manipulate her like this at the age of 3!

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WindX's picture

"She laughs awkwardly and keeps working on his shoe (of course it is taking forever because he's not cooperating)."

I bet that was awkward. I understand the point of your story, but in that moment, it sounds like you were the equivalent of the grocery store shopper who tries the offer parenting advice when it's not likely welcome.

I can see how you'd be disappointed, but I can also see that BM may be taking the road of least resistence (especially if time is any issue when he pulls those stunts) and deciding that is not a hill worth dying on. Just a thought.

SteppingUp's picture

I appreciate that you gave this a different spin. I see your point although I can't see that BM taking the road of least resistance EVERY DAY is something that shouldn't aggrevate us and that shouldn't be addressed with BM.

Especiallly because SS doesn't get away with this at our house or at day care (to the point that daycare has even 'yelled' at BM for allowing him to act this way), and he gets along just fine. He gets his shoes on, his socks on, etc. We refuse to have a child 50% of the time and just go along with the fact that he's allowed to be a lazy manipulative child.

WindX's picture

I don't disagree with you. I think the way you handled it would have been awkward for me. Just think if BM had come and taken over a situation with any of us that basically pointed out how we were doing something wrong. That was the point I was trying to make.

I don't have a problem with being aggravated with BM for this. I just don't particularly agree that the best way to handle it was to get fed up and intervene. It didn't really teach the child or BM anything. If anything, I'd suggest pointing it out to BM in a different way, possibly out of earshot of SS. Definitely not at the same time she's struggling with doing the tasks.

I see examples of "oh you can't do this fun activity if you can't put your own shoes on" but what about when it's not a fun activity and it's right at the time that BM has to drop the kid at daycare and go to work? There's no motivation for the kid (no carrot to dangle, especially if doing it is going to make mommy leave sooner?)

I can see her point in a way. She's used to taking care of her son (I'm making this assumption lol) and putting on shoes that she's been putting on for him already is a small thing. Or at least I can see how it could be. As I said, I'm thinking of it from the perspective of someone who really doesn't think they're doing any harm by helping their small child get dressed. I don't think it's too far fetched.

Sometimes I think situations get escalated in blended families because we don't take the time to see the other side. At the same time, I know some other sides still don't make sense...so know that I'm not saying that you're wrong as much as I think that you may taking it more personal than it really is. Just maybe.

oneoffour's picture

Well if he is so helpless, treat him as such. Sorry, can't have an icecream. You can't eat it by yourself. Sorry, no new toys. You can't put your coat on so how can you play with new toys?

SteppingUp's picture

We completely do...he gets consequences for acting this way. "Well, we just won't go to the park if you can't put your shoes on." or he gets time-outs.

Plus, he gets a sticker on our prize chart on the days where he gets completely dressed by himself with no whining (it's happened about 2 times)...when he gets 10 stickers he gets a prize. This is just our method of positive reinforcement that works for other things, too.

But what do you do with BM who just doesn't understand?

SteppingUp's picture

I would kill DF if he acted like that. We are frustrated enough having BM act like this, I don't know what I'd do if my SO did it, too.........ugh, I feel for you.

GoodbyeNormaJean's picture

Hm, time for a frank talk.

"Dear Dumber-Than-Rocks,
I know you probably don't see a problem with re-enforcing this ka ka, so I want to clue you in on the end result of this behavior.

When SS is at our house and behaves in this manner, he is punished. We simply don't put up with it, and we aren't about to begin putting up with it now.

When SS is unwilling to get himself ready, he is sent to nap, or to time out, and excluded from the fun activity. His poor attitude results in being denied privelages but having to sit and watch his sibs enjoy themselves. It's very sad to watch. I know you wouldn't wish for him to be treated this way, but it is a direct result of behavior that YOU encourage every time I see you.

Please take this time to get his head and yours out of your a$$ so he can start enjoying more of his time here. My spanking hand is getting very tired.

Sincerely,
Somebody-who-cares-enough-to-exert-the-effort"