Every time I think he "gets it," I realize he doesn't (v.long. mostly to vent)
I've posted a great deal and replied to posts about my FH and his relationship with SS10 (his bio son)- whom he's described as "his peer." Always treated him like his partner, taken him to adult parties, SS assumes he should be a part of every conversation, etc. This, combined with the fact that SS has no responsibilities, doesn't even know how to pour a bowl of his cereal, doesn't even carry his backpack from the car- and is emotionally immature- have made for some stress since I moved in with them when we got engaged last fall.
I thought FH was starting to get it! We've begun therapy after our relationship disintegrated so fast, so quickly. It's great for us. We've been able to communicate about his son a little bit without it turning into a blow-up.
Two weekends ago we had his son for the first time in 2.5 weeks (he is supposed to have 50% custody but allows his ex to take whatever extra time she wants, to deny him time, etc.). I braced myself for being totally ignored that weekend. I also changed work travel plans so that I could be with them 1 extra day and go to SS's first basketball game, thus making the start of my work week very stressful, but I wanted to be there for that. I got no thank you for it-- but instead, when we were at the movies on Sat. they went in while I bought snacks- and when I found them in the theatre SS was in the middle seat, already curled up on his dad, who had his arm around him. They sat like this for the 3 hour movie. Then, when we were home, SS was going to bed (finally, after 11pm). FH went in to "put him to bed" (this is a 10.5 year old who is going through puberty and with whom FH gets into bed each night to read to). I then fell asleep waiting 30 minutes for him to come to bed. The next day was filled with SS activities and his basketball game and then I left for the week of work (I teach at a university 3.5 hours away M-W). I left feeling sad and angry that it didn't occur to him that not reading to his son the night before might have been nice for the two of us to have a little time together before I needed to leave town for work.
Last week was one of the two times/semester that I stay where I teach and FH comes for the weekend. These weeks we only see each other for 2 days. During last week we had to put a dog to sleep-- FH had to take care of it without me and there was so much sadness and stress at doing this and not being together. FH got here on Friday (his ex had SS last weekend). We had an amazing 24 hours. Then, on Sat. evening he started to pick a fight with me about our wedding ideas and was just being a jerk. And when he gets like this he just gets meaner and meaner. So we slept apart, I was awake most of the night, Sunday was ruined for us- I was so tired and numb I couldn't function all day (I needed to spend the day planning a course- as did he- we were going to go to my office and work together for the day). At noon, I just asked him to leave b/c I couldn't stand to be around him trying to act like everything was fine. I asked him to leave but then, of course, was so sad b/c I wouldn't see him until Thursday.
He has his son every M/T. These are nights just for the two of them- I am never there. I sometimes think he'd be almost grateful to me to have this time with SS, but instead I just sort of blocked out. So yesterday we had a 5 min check-in before an 8:30 meeting I had in the AM. We didn't talk again during the day- he was teaching or in meetings all day and I had a class at 4pm. I called him at 8pm when I was on my way home and we talked for 15 minutes and then he told me he "wanted to get back to hanging out" with SS (I believe he said he "only had 51 minutes" until SS had to go to bed). He said he'd call after he put him to bed. Over two hours later I hadn't heard back. I had done all the things I needed to- and wanted to get ready for bed. I called and FH said he was waiting for SS to fall asleep to call me (the apartment we share is very small and there is no privacy). I said I was surprised b/c SS goes to bed at 9pm and it was now after 10. FH said he did get in bed with him and read to him for a while and then feel asleep with him for a minute. And wanted to make sure SS was fully asleep once he got out of the bed before he called me.
I was angry when we talked- he said "but I haven't seen him in 6 days. And all we have is from when I pick him up from school." I reminded him this is more time than we have- and that I wished he thought so frantically about moments with me so that he didn't either ruin them by picking fights with me or just seem to forget about them (by leaving me ignored at the movies and once we got home).
I am so tired of this- so tired of the guilty parent shit. So tired of his parenting. So tired of always getting the short end of the stick. Just a few weeks ago we had a conversation (it wasn't even a fight- it was a conversation) about something like the movie, where he said that he understood it was his responsibility to notice things like SS trying to sit in the middle and structure them differently. I know things are more difficult b/c of my work- but I need to work! And as a professor I can't get a job just anywhere. I turned down more prestigious jobs to remain in the same state and at least have this life with him.
I just don't get why he doesn't "get it."
Sigh....
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Wow. Ugh. Honey, only you
Wow. Ugh.
Honey, only you know what you should do. But I gotta say, personally, this would be a relationship that I would probably walk away from. It would just not be for me. For all the reasons you list. To me, it sounds like this is the kind of person who would be better off waiting until his child is totally grown to have a serious relationship.
BB
You are not second best, you are not second class. Do not ever let anyone make you feel that way. - 2BLoved
What does your therapist say
What does your therapist say about all this? I don't think your FH is doing his son any favors that's for sure, and he's surely not in much of a partnership with you.
What would happen if you put yourself out there on the job market? I work at a university too and know lots of academic couples who live apart (I used to be one). Sometimes the distance works, sometimes it doesn't. But you've worked too hard to destroy your own career over a 10-year-old.
Hey steppinginsf. As I've
Hey steppinginsf. As I've said, our stories are very similar. You definitely deserve more consideration as a life partner. I think it's important to ask your FH why he isn't as concerned about also finding time with you (not just SS) when, clearly, you miss him terribly. Does he realize how lonely you're feeling? Maybe this is something to bring up in your counseling sessions, but he really needs to hear how lonely you feel when you're away and thinking of him and he doesn't call when he says he will.
I'm sure he doesn't intend to hurt you, but it IS hurting you and he needs to know. This may cause him to make a change. If it does not, are you sure you want to continue with this relationship? Do you want to spend your life feeling sad and left out? This is the boat I'm in right now. I've called a halt to our engagement and will try therapy to see if my SO is capable of change. Unfortunately, we've discussed this issue on so many occasions, I fear he is not.
SC
Hi everyone, I think it is
Hi everyone,
I think it is becoming clear to FH how much hurt I feel. And, b/c he has told me, he is finally understanding that he has a tremendous amount of responsibility in it. I don't question that he loves me and wants to marry me. I do question if he is willing to make the choices that he needs to be parent his son and be a partner to me. At the same time.
As for his parenting- he knows that I don't agree with many of his choices. He knows that I consider his son interesting, mostly enjoyable to be around, but also spoiled/needing attention, not thoughtful of others or his belongings, and not responsible. I sometimes don't care that his son write amazing poetry when it never occurs to him to clean up after himself or help anyone with anything. He lays around and reads by himself or with his dad, watches movies with his dad, has his meals made for him, driven to his sports practices, and praised for just about every little move he makes. But FH has chosen this and chosen it very actively.
As for living in the household with them all the time- I think about this, too. Although lonely sometimes I don't think I could handle it (I mean last night, when FH said after 12ish minutes of talking, total for the day: "I need to go. I only have 51 minutes left to hang out with son." I said, "but you've been with him since you picked him up after school." FH: "that doesn't count. that was time in the car, then I listened to his piano lesson, then we drove home and I made him dinner and now he is reading. I only have 51 minutes and I haven't seen him in 5 days.").
I sometimes wonder if/how it will change when/if we have a child together. And I feel happy knowing that if/when I get a university job closer, my classes are always at night b/c I teach teachers, who work during the day!
Our therapist has talked about the hard work it is for a bioparent- and especially a man- to make the transition to me being his partner and the primary one in the dyad. We'll see how it goes this Friday.
Sigh.....
Oh dear... is your FH my ex?
Oh dear... is your FH my ex? I imagine this is how my ex is when my son is with him and how he would be with a girlfriend (IF ever he had one!). Frankly, the dads life revolves around this boy and I don't expect it to change.
Before I agreed to a committed relationship with my DH, I behaved similarly. We only saw each other on weekends (twice a month) that we didn't have any kids. I usually only spoke to him after kid bedtimes. I did not take time away from my son for this relationship. BUT, once I realized this was a relationship that I wanted to last and I was falling deeper in love with my then bf and eventual fiance, I began integrating the two relationships and my son (as well as his) had to learn to share their parents. It was easier for us because we both have a boy around the same age so they could play together while we 'hung out'. By the time we got married and moved in together, it was fairly normal (I think!) in the amount of time that we spent with our kids versus with each other.
I guess what I'm trying to say is, either this is a clear indication that his son is always going to come before you in your relationship (because he's a darn guilty and clueless daddy) OR, he's just not fully committed to the relationship... or both.
Either way, I hope you are able to find a way to discuss this with him and get through to him that his behavior is NOT conducise to a long term relationship with anyone and then you need to decide what is right for you.
Best of luck steppinginsf.
Fast forward 14 years, to
Fast forward 14 years, to when your ss is 24. This is my life. SS is in drug rehab (by his choice and he gets lots of credit for taking this step). DH's life is centered around this boy--always has been. Last evening I reminded DH that our house cleaner comes today and DH promised to help pick up clutter. THis morning he hadn't done anything. We don't live in a pigsty by any means, but I do want clutter dealt with and dirty dishes put in the dishwasher. I lost it. Totally lost it. Told DH he has more than one relationship to tend and I am not going to be in charge of house cleaning, paying bills, emptying trash, whatever. I'm looking for a partner, not someone who tells his grown son that he thinks of him every second and misses him terribly. Geez, their phone conversations sound like conversations between lovers. I'd like to be treated like that. I used to be treated like that.
My point, other than to vent (sorry, it's your post), is to deal with this now. DOn't expect it to change as SS gets older.
Wow Steppin, this man sounds
Wow Steppin, this man sounds like he has some unhealthy attachment issues with regards to SS. You need to look very closely at a lifetime of this child worship before you decide to become his wife. You are his life partner, not his child. Your relationship should be at the center and the children should revolve around it like the planets to the sun. Think about it, if your relationship is healthy than the planets (children) around it will be healthier and happier too. If you're relationship is unhealthy that will eventually translate to the kids as well.