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WOW, BM has done a 180, and im shocked

smnikki's picture

DH and i moved in to our new house in dec, bm made two harassing phone calls about our house being up to code with the pool. Dh handled it awesome and basically told her to pack sand.

BM's dog bit ss in the eye (beginning of dec) and its still bruised thats how bad it was, but bm didnt take ss to urgent care when it happened. Ever since bm has been very cordial and has not been hassling us or starting drama.

Last week, bm, who before said that ss should always be with one of his parents not me who is not "a real parent" left ss with my dh's mom or a friend 2.5 days out of her 5. We got him back yesterday and his face is bruised and scratched from "riding his bike" he still has the scar on his face from where he burnt him self on a hanger when roasting marshmallows in the fire place at bm's. ss's whole body is covered in scrapes and bruises from falling off his bike.

Dh and i know that ss is not being beat, but we do feel like ss is not being watched and that is why he is falling and getting banged up so much. This morning, dh told bm that we dont send him to her like that and why is she sending him to us like that. She needs to get more protective gear or watch him more carefully. bm was very calm and agreed. Bm said she would put him in a better helmet, etc.

10 minutes later bm called back to ask dh about putting ss in counseling for "anger issues".....ok let me paint a picture of ss when hes with us... last night we were on the couch, ss tells dh and i every 5 minutes, i love you dad i love you smnikki. dh and i were laying on the chase lounge part of our couch, ss comes over to cuddle with us. the other day i was upstairs, ss was down stairs, he randomly yells up, LOVE YOU sm nikki!!! i take him grocery shopping, the bagger comments, oh wow what a well behaved little boy, he couldnt possibly be THIS good all the time. YES, he really is this good all the time! if i tell him to do anything, he does it, no lip! if i say clean your room he does it, if i tell him something and leave the room, he still does it. He eats his food, doesnt whine ever, and pretty much always says please and thank you...he even tells me thank you when i buy him the cereal he like for breakfast!

according to bm, ss hurt his leg getting in to his bed at her house and took it out on all the furniture. She said hes very angry and is acting out. Also, she said that mil (her and my mil are bff) took ss to mc donalds and ss didnt want to eat he wanted to play and when mil tried to make him eat he threw him self on the floor and then when she tried to pick him up he repeatedly hit her in the face......SS would NEVER raise a hand to me and never has.

Dh told bm that he needed to think about ss going to counseling, because he doesnt act like that over here and its clearly HER parenting thats causing his behavior issues. Dh and i are glad though that she is finally agreeing to send him because we are sure that if he does go it will be no later than the end of the year that we would most liekly have full custody. ss is always saying that he doesnt want to go back to bm's house, he also acts out at day care on the days he is going back to bm.

I worry what is really going on over there. It seems bm is giving up and just doesnt care to try any more or something.

any advice?

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Sia's picture

My sds treated BM this way too. It was b/c of a total LACK of parenting on her part. I never had to deal with tantrums or things like that...... but BM would always complain that they only acted that way b/c of the visitation with us. NO, they acted that way b/c SHE let them!

Stick's picture

Oh SMNikki!

I read this post and started laughing out loud at the "pack sand" comment.

But then, as I continued to read... I wasn't laughing anymore.

I don't think that little boy is doing ALL of that to himself, and that could be why BM is doing a 180. Sure, I do think he could even be doing the majority of it. But that doesn't matter, does it?

Are you and DH ready to get custody of him? This is where I feel that I am putting my own sh*t into your situation. Because DH and I regret so much not taking SD sooner. The therapy we could have avoided.... or at least maybe minimalized? Her life - different, happier? We torture ourselves with these questions and she wasn't nearly as bad as you describe your SS. So I'm sorry if I keep harping on you guys getting him, AND getting him into counseling. I just think if he is that affectionate and good for you two, there is more going on... (???) I'm so sorry - I don't mean to frighten you.

My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family! Congratulations on the new house!! I'm so excited for you about that!

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smnikki's picture

Stick!! thats what im afraid of!! bm was a court diagnosed drama queen!! by the mediator, and now all of a sudden she hasnt said a word?! no drama!?

I worry that the counseling will lower ss's self esteem when he gets older and cause issues...because it seems like its bm not ss..but i know that he needs to deal with the problems he is having at bm's and with mil.

What should dh and i do? we just went through court where they said that there was no way custody would change for either side. Dh and i hope that by going to counseling the counselor will recommend that ss be with us full time.

I feel so bad for ss, i just want whats best for him, and ive always thought that a child should never be taken from their mother but im worried that she is doing more harm now.

What should we do?

Stick's picture

SMNikki - Well, I hope that counseling won't lower SS's self esteem.

When SD over here decided to go, her mom was pulling that kind of crap on her. Like... "What?? You need to see a counselor? " with that derogatory tone. And also would make that face when talking about her need for antidepressants. She literally would not say that word and told SD, she didn't want to say it or even refer to it as "medication".

But, SD was older, so she realized the need for it on her own. Ironically, BM changed her tune when her sister's daughter also went to counseling! Then all of a sudden, it was "OK" for SD to go and talk to someone. Bitch! Ugh I hate that woman sometimes.

Anyways - I digress!! Sorry!!

I wanted to tell you that I think that you should get SS into counseling because, as you stated, if a counselor recommends that he live with you full time, it may carry some weight with the court. AND - BM may not want that embarrassment of having a counselor tell the court that it would be better for SS to live with you, so she may more willingly allow it. That's what happened here. When SD told her counselors she wanted to live with us, and they told all 3 of us that in turn, BM over here didn't have a leg to stand on, and didn't want that to be "let out" so to speak. So, DH was able to say to her, "Let's give SD a chance at what she wants, and see how she likes it. " He sort of positioned it as not permanent, but we knew that as soon as SD was out of there, she wasn't going back. But it made it easier for BM to swallow.

The counselor will help your SS verbalize his feelings about where he wants to live, as well as what is truly going on in that house. And in the end, I think it will help his self-esteem.

DH and I never thought about taking a child from their mother either. But, as we see all too often - even on this site... that bio mother bond does not prevent that particular woman from putting her own baggage on her children. Sad

I really think that it will help!!

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smnikki's picture

bm said she was looking at places today. dh said that tonight when she called to talk to ss during the "time" she is allowed to call he will say that he agrees to the counseling but that both of them have full rights to the information. and that me and bm's bf will be involved also. (its up to her bf, but mainly she cant exclude me from things)

dh knows that i am able to articulate things really well when it comes to ss, and wants me to be able to interact with the counselor.

When ss comes back he is always saying very violent things..like if a stranger does this or that i will punch his head off....dh and i have been correcting this and usually it wears off by the end of his first day back with us. I always talk with ss about how he should not talk like this etc.......

lol, is it bad though that i laughed when i found out that he repeatedly punched mil in the face!? maybe he knew she deserved it! (no matter how much i hate mil i would never encourage ANY type of violent behavior)

Stick's picture

I'm so happy to hear that BM is looking at places today!! And you know Nikki? I completely hope that you stay VERY involved - no matter what BM thinks.

Now, in my opinion, BM's boyfriend doesn't have the "right" - (again my opinion) to be in on this because
(1) - I'm not sure how much he is a part of the problem and
(2) - I'm not sure how long he has been with BM and if he is permanent or temporary! ?? (Make sense? If he is permanent, then I guess he has as much right as anyone else...)

But what I really wanted to let you know is that for SD over here, it helped to have DH and I take her. DH because he is much better at picking her up and not asking her anything about it.... Or just being very "light" and saying "How did it go?" and then sort of seeing how much she wanted to talk or not talk. For me, I was able to remind SD to tell her counselor certain things. For example, SD has been sliding back recently, a little, crying more (I think holidays)... etc. So upon dropping her off before the holidays, I went in at the beginning of her session and said to her counselor, SD is concerned about x,y, z... Can you help us figure this out?" And then I would leave. The counselor could talk to SD about it and it gave them a starting point. After the session, SD would give me the gist of the conversation, but not all of it.

SD didn't like BM taking her because she didn't want all of the questions after. Sometimes I am not good at refraining either. It is hard!

Another thing is, we had the counselor meet with DH, BM, myself AND SD at different times. So that may come up for you guys as well. Don't let BM cut you out of that. You are as much of a parent to SS as she is!

I don't think it's bad when you laughed when he punched mil in the face!! I'm sure you probably were thinking under your breath (hit her for me kid!!) Smile

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smnikki's picture

bm was cheating on my dh with her current bf. they have been together for 2.5 years...bm cried during mediation saying that bf told her he would never marry her. i know they are having problems according to ss they have violent loud fights, but they live together and have for 1.5 years. the mediator told her that if she wanted to get married, she needed to move on from bf, she was supposed to get counseling (16 session court appointed for her "issues") but she still has not done so, we dont know if the bf is permanent.

the day care lady use to tell me how much she dis liked bf and thought that he was a big problem with ss, but ever since my dh pushed the issue of her calling cps on bm for the whole belt hitting thing, the day care lady stopped telling us stuff, and is mad at dh because once she called they started checking up on her all the time and she got in trouble a couple times for having too many kids there. now the day care lady who use to play bm and dh against each other by telling them stuff claims that she cant have any more "drama" and dh and bm are to only drop off and pick up and ask how he did, no other issues are to be discussed! im still mad that dh agrees to send ss there, when obviously she isnt going to tell us stuff we should know about ss, but thats a whole other issue!

Stick's picture

Well, good luck and hugs and prayers honey!! Please keep us informed on how it goes!!

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stepmom2one's picture

I wouldn't want him there on the sole reason that the daycare provider sounds like she would not report any abuse, if she saw any.

If the lady plays people against each other, and got in trouble for having to many kids so isn't the model citizen that can be trusted watching a child.

smnikki's picture

thats exactly the way i feel. she has since day one played bm, dh and me against one another. she did not call cps when ss told her that bm's bf was hitting him with a belt, and then got mad that dh told her she had to call other wise he would and she would get in trouble for not reporting.

Now she has told bm that it was dh who forced her to call and thats why she didnt want ss back at her day care...bm says she had to beg day care lady to let him back in. i have a STRONG feeling, the no drama, no talking about stuff is ONLY for dh and I. I am so sure i can taste it that the lady discusses EVERYTHING with bm!

She is a very nice lady...for the most part...but I would never send my child there...dh goes along with it because its the only place bm will agree to send and pay half the bill...we think its better than him always being with her and then trying to go to court saying that she has had him the majority of the time so she should have more custody.

Stick's picture

SMNikki - I was checking your profile, to see if you updated anything from the hearing today, and ran across this blog.

So it seems that we know what BM was up to now, huh?

How are you? Can you update us?

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smnikki's picture

lol, yeah, i knew something was in the works!!

well we didnt file because on friday dh talked to bm in a calm manner. he said, ok whats the deal are you moving? whats going on....she said that she couldnt talk, but that she gave her word she wasnt moving. her and bf are having problems and she needed to get out of there. Last night when she was talking to ss she said, ok ss i will talk to you tomorrow night because mommy has work in the morning, and i have to be there at 9...(she can only call ss between 9 and 930 am) she also said, if youre awake and daddy says ok you can call me before 9...that was it, so we shall see.

dh had told her friday that if she needs him to have ss more while she gets things together we would and not hold it against her, etc. she said thanks but no she is ok.

i think the thing with her is that usually she is better than most crazy bm's because now after court she knows not to mess with us..i think periodically she just flips out trying to feel like she has some type of control in her life and as a direct result tries to control us......she has no family really, no friends, a bf that most likely doesnt give a shit about her, etc....the only person she feels she can control is my dh because they have a kid together....i need to give things a chance to blow over...but the kind of person i am is that i want to be proactive and do things instantly to protect my family